Just a thought
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Just a thought
I have wondered for quite some time about the thinking behind Chevy cutting the 2018 C7 model year to less than half a year, ending this past January, when the 2019 model year C7, which is is the exact same car, went into production . So I began to think about the possibility that the 2019 model year C7, which started production in January of 2018, could end production in January of 2019, when the C8 ME is introduced in Detroit. Then Production of the 2020 ME C8 (possibly along with the 2020 front engine C7) could start in January/February of 2019. That way Chevy can enter the 2020 Mid engine C8 in the 2019 IMSA sports car racing season, and the C8 would hit showroom floors by early spring. Of course this is all just conjecture on my part, but it certainly is a possibility.
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No different from stopping production/cutting back on production on the C6 when the economy went into the toilet in 2009.
If they are not selling, and dealer inventory is not moving because you have build to many, you stop building them, hoping that the inventory levels drop.
If they are not selling, and dealer inventory is not moving because you have build to many, you stop building them, hoping that the inventory levels drop.
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^^^ I agree. Many past behaviors and/or traditions will be changed if increased profit scenario exists or becomes available. Progress.
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No different from stopping production/cutting back on production on the C6 when the economy went into the toilet in 2009.
If they are not selling, and dealer inventory is not moving because you have build to many, you stop building them, hoping that the inventory levels drop.
If they are not selling, and dealer inventory is not moving because you have build to many, you stop building them, hoping that the inventory levels drop.
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Another factor needing to be considered, and that is in GM’s internal Dec. 12th memo to its dealers getting a ZR1, they said that the current “estimated time to finish 2019 ZR1 production is March.”
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I ordered my C7 Z51 2LT in April 2013 right after the Bash. (I had the price/options list from this Forum before my dealer did !) I received my C7 the last week of Sept. 2013. About 8-months from introduction in Detroit to my garage. My VIN #is 1209. I named her Lola !!
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Rick Hendrick got his $1+M C7 on Sept. 19, 2013. A friend lucked out, got the first regular- customer C7 car the following day.
The last C6 was produced the last day of February, 2013 (similar schedule to when it looks the last 2019 will be made, e.g., next March).
IF a parallel ME roll out schedule (???), we are looking at the first ME’s to be in customers hands the end of September next year.
But again, lots of maybes/assumptions in that guess.
The last C6 was produced the last day of February, 2013 (similar schedule to when it looks the last 2019 will be made, e.g., next March).
IF a parallel ME roll out schedule (???), we are looking at the first ME’s to be in customers hands the end of September next year.
But again, lots of maybes/assumptions in that guess.
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The FACT is that the sales and production of the C7 have been declining since it was introduced, unlike the entire run of the C5 and the first 5 years of the C6. The C6 final years poor sales were caused by the very serious economic downturn(US auto sales dropped from 17 million to 10.5 million) and GM's bankruptcy in June 2009.
The C7 has benefited with an overall economic recovery and has not had to go through a GM bankruptcy, unlike what happened to the C6, yet the sales of the C7 has steadily fallen.
That's the facts, Jack.
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The FACT is that the sales and production of the C7 have been declining since it was introduced, unlike the entire run of the C5 and the first 5 years of the C6. The C6 final years poor sales were caused by the very serious economic downturn(US auto sales dropped from 17 million to 10.5 million) and GM's bankruptcy in June 2009.
The C7 has benefited with an overall economic recovery and has not had to go through a GM bankruptcy, unlike what happened to the C6, yet the sales of the C7 has steadily fallen.
That's the facts, Jack.
The C7 has benefited with an overall economic recovery and has not had to go through a GM bankruptcy, unlike what happened to the C6, yet the sales of the C7 has steadily fallen.
That's the facts, Jack.
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Although I agree, I think pricing will matter a lot. Part of the reason (although not all of the reason) is the performance/price/fun combination of the Corvette. Cost of entry is relatively low and that drives volume. I expect that even a modest (say, $10,000) increase will impact the volume of cars sold. So, whether market share will grow or not will be, in part, determined based on pricing of the ME.
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Although I agree, I think pricing will matter a lot. Part of the reason (although not all of the reason) is the performance/price/fun combination of the Corvette. Cost of entry is relatively low and that drives volume. I expect that even a modest (say, $10,000) increase will impact the volume of cars sold. So, whether market share will grow or not will be, in part, determined based on pricing of the ME.
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What all of your seem to be missing, is that competition for the people who are the demographic to buy (ie age and money) Corvettes have far more options than ever - the biggest being high performance suvs: Porsche Cayenne & Macan Turbos, Jeep GC SRT & Track Hawk, BMW X5M & X6M, Alfa Stelvio Q, Range Rover SVR, Maserati Levante, and MB AMG GLE63S. All make at least as much hp as a Stingray and have room for at least 4 plus considerable luggage. On public roads, you would be really hard pressed to exceed the capabilities of any of those suvs. Imo, those vehicles have taken more sales away from the C7 than other sports cars.
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As usual, you have nothing to offer except that I'm in your head and you need to make personal attacks on me to make yourself feel worthwhile.
The FACT is that the sales and production of the C7 have been declining since it was introduced, unlike the entire run of the C5 and the first 5 years of the C6. The C6 final years poor sales were caused by the very serious economic downturn(US auto sales dropped from 17 million to 10.5 million) and GM's bankruptcy in June 2009.
The C7 has benefited with an overall economic recovery and has not had to go through a GM bankruptcy, unlike what happened to the C6, yet the sales of the C7 has steadily fallen.
That's the facts, Jack.
The FACT is that the sales and production of the C7 have been declining since it was introduced, unlike the entire run of the C5 and the first 5 years of the C6. The C6 final years poor sales were caused by the very serious economic downturn(US auto sales dropped from 17 million to 10.5 million) and GM's bankruptcy in June 2009.
The C7 has benefited with an overall economic recovery and has not had to go through a GM bankruptcy, unlike what happened to the C6, yet the sales of the C7 has steadily fallen.
That's the facts, Jack.
As you've proven once again, you can only point out what you perceive as negative things about the C7, often selectively quoting misleading numbers or old surveys that actually have no real bearing on the Corvette ownership experience that is primarily what is celebrated on this forum.
It must suck to be filled with such insecurity, anger and hate.
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Settle down, grandpa. You'll have stroke, And don't play amateur psychologist....it's way above your pay grade.
As you've proven once again, you can only point out what you perceive as negative things about the C7, often selectively quoting misleading numbers or old surveys that actually have no real bearing on the Corvette ownership experience that is primarily what is celebrated on this forum.
It must suck to be filled with such insecurity, anger and hate.
As you've proven once again, you can only point out what you perceive as negative things about the C7, often selectively quoting misleading numbers or old surveys that actually have no real bearing on the Corvette ownership experience that is primarily what is celebrated on this forum.
It must suck to be filled with such insecurity, anger and hate.
I bet my pay grade is above yours, and I've been retired for the past 32 years; just living the dream.
I think I'll do an Irish Jig and give you a headache.
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Don't break a hip.
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