Side scoop necessary?
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Burning Brakes
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From: Park Ridge Il
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From: Racine WI
It is important, but that's not why Fiero engines caught fire. The issue was that they used a shallower oil pan to make the engine fit, thus dropping oil capacity. As a result, the engine was right on the edge of having enough oil. If an owner didn't check the oil regularly then it could drop too low and the engine would overheat and burst into flames.
It was only after the engine fires that GM bean counters approved the funds for a proper engineering solution to fitting the engine in the Fiero's bay. Sales never recovered and the Fiero was terminated. As usual, GM's reputation never factored into the calculations of the bean counters.
It was only after the engine fires that GM bean counters approved the funds for a proper engineering solution to fitting the engine in the Fiero's bay. Sales never recovered and the Fiero was terminated. As usual, GM's reputation never factored into the calculations of the bean counters.
Last edited by GTJeff; May 12, 2019 at 12:32 AM.
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They can add 10 more scoops, as long as the engine doesn't overheat and go into limp mode.
Seriously though, if you took a plant tour and saw the C7 Z06 without body panels, you will know that it had multiple radiators in the back, and it has the engine in the front.
Seriously though, if you took a plant tour and saw the C7 Z06 without body panels, you will know that it had multiple radiators in the back, and it has the engine in the front.
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Burning Brakes
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They can add 10 more scoops, as long as the engine doesn't overheat and go into limp mode.
Seriously though, if you took a plant tour and saw the C7 Z06 without body panels, you will know that it had multiple radiators in the back, and it has the engine in the front.
Seriously though, if you took a plant tour and saw the C7 Z06 without body panels, you will know that it had multiple radiators in the back, and it has the engine in the front.
Drifting
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From: C&D 10 Best loop
Aesthetically that's one of the worst side scoop designs in automotive history. Thankfully, the C8's scoops will look nothing like those.
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So put the venting and suck it in from the front. In the trunk. There are many places they could find that aren’t over the engine. Allot of cars today are bottom breathers. I think they don’t have to put vents in the sides. I’m just saying I think they could do this if they really wanted to.
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I don't think that sealing the engine compartment works in practice: The early Fieros had a relatively small grill above the engine to allow air circulation. They became famous for frequently catching fire. Later models increased the number and size of the vents. Even if the radiator could keep up with keeping the coolant at normal temperatures with such an arrangement, lots of things would get really hot from radiated heat, like sensors and other plastic and rubber parts. Air circulation around the engine is pretty important.
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It will be interesting to see how many C8s sell and how long the production run lasts. I purchased a C7 in 2014, traded it on a 2017 when the hoopla about a mid engine C8 started to circulate. I have no desire for a mid-engine car, it is not the engine location, it is the look. The body is so out of proportion, and the ugly side air inlet really kills it. Then there is the transmission issue (maybe a manual will be offered in the future).
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Melting Slicks
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I drove MTs for about 30 years, and the linkages seemed to keep getting worse. Best one ever was my 1969 Ford Cortina GT where there was no external linkage. The shift lever came straight up out of the transmission and through the tunnel sheet metal with a simple rubber boot. Front engine Omni GLH wasn't terrible, but not great. About four rods with press on nylon bushings at each end. My mechanic bought a dozen bushings so he wouldn't have to wait for a delivery to replace them when they inevitably died, leaving me in whatever gear. Cable linkages have similar problems as they age and rust.
Burning Brakes
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From: “Out there”
“Treasure of the Sierra Madre”
https://youtu.be/VqomZQMZQCQ
OK. I guess some of you guys haven’t seen the movie called “The Treasure of the Sierra Madre.” Check it out on the link. It’s about some Mexican Carboyaros (that’s cowboys) bandits arguing weather or not they need badges to prove their police. It’s a metaphor for saying you don’t need or want something. I wasn’t referring to the badges on the car, it was the scoops.
Now,,,,STOPLIGHT mentioned The Ferrari 458 looks great and has no scoops on the side. So it could be done. .
From what I can see from the camouflage car it looks like they do stick out quite a bit. If they don’t stick to far like “Igodom” said they might look kind a neat and bad ***.
“NORTY” if you don’t like us scrutinizing the idiosyncrasies of a new design character never used before. You know there are other post to look at.
https://youtu.be/VqomZQMZQCQ
OK. I guess some of you guys haven’t seen the movie called “The Treasure of the Sierra Madre.” Check it out on the link. It’s about some Mexican Carboyaros (that’s cowboys) bandits arguing weather or not they need badges to prove their police. It’s a metaphor for saying you don’t need or want something. I wasn’t referring to the badges on the car, it was the scoops.
Now,,,,STOPLIGHT mentioned The Ferrari 458 looks great and has no scoops on the side. So it could be done. .
From what I can see from the camouflage car it looks like they do stick out quite a bit. If they don’t stick to far like “Igodom” said they might look kind a neat and bad ***.
“NORTY” if you don’t like us scrutinizing the idiosyncrasies of a new design character never used before. You know there are other post to look at.
