Potential C8 issues to consider....
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From what I could stomach through the first 1/4 he was taking about common things that break on suburu but aren't common on SBC failures. If I'm bored I'll watch the rest later 🙄
Watched more... The timing belt change will be tough on the SBC...🙄
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Watched more... The timing belt change will be tough on the SBC...🙄
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I remember the first time I changed a timing belt on an LSX. Dead of winter, -40 below, I had to walk uphill both ways to NAPA, only to find out that I had purchased the wrong belt for my motor.
I so despise the useless hand wringing threads of "OHMNYGERD WHAT COULD GO WRONG" before a car is even in the hands of a customer.
I so despise the useless hand wringing threads of "OHMNYGERD WHAT COULD GO WRONG" before a car is even in the hands of a customer.
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I remember the first time I changed a timing belt on an LSX. Dead of winter, -40 below, I had to walk uphill both ways to NAPA, only to find out that I had purchased the wrong belt for my motor.
I so despise the useless hand wringing threads of "OHMNYGERD WHAT COULD GO WRONG" before a car is even in the hands of a customer.
I so despise the useless hand wringing threads of "OHMNYGERD WHAT COULD GO WRONG" before a car is even in the hands of a customer.
How does one walk uphill twice, was the car up a hill, then you walk down and up another hill for the part?
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Some of the “sky falling” here is old hat. FWD cars with transaxles have had front subframe drops as part of larger repairs for years.
After changing plugs and the slave cylinder on an LS F-Body, I might welcome dropping the back half out if it’s as simple as several big bolts, a few Duetsch connectors, and an alignment afterward.
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But Suburu Bob said timing belt like 17 times, and only mentioned the timing chains on an LSx not needing service once and he’s owned like fifty-eleven LSx motors, ergo, we should assume it’s 17 times more likely we’ll have to deal with a timing belt issue, yeah? Out of bourbon, going to sleep nowz.
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Valid points but also obvious at the same time. Moving the motor and bracing it in its position will certainly drive up labor cost for what once was an accessible job with a front engine car. With any new thing, i love advancements but always let them work out bugs first. With the C7 I waited 3 years to get my Z. See where the C8 goes in 3-4 years.
For me, i love to modify my cars. With even the ZR1, unlocking the tunes of these cars is getting rigid and cost is going up drastically to do so. He had a good point of over the air updates/tunes from GM. Lots to see and only time will tell.
For me, i love to modify my cars. With even the ZR1, unlocking the tunes of these cars is getting rigid and cost is going up drastically to do so. He had a good point of over the air updates/tunes from GM. Lots to see and only time will tell.
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Changing the accessory belt may be a pain, but on a C6, a clutch change requires dropping the rear transaxle, which is a pain if you don't have the setup to do that.
Plugs, spark plug wires, oil changes done from below. Reminds me of my 88 camaro days... stock plugs on the passenger side could only be accessed from under the car for the last 2. My 98 I have to contort my arm oddly to reach the rear passenger plugs and disassemble a ton of top end stuff to make room.
Plugs, spark plug wires, oil changes done from below. Reminds me of my 88 camaro days... stock plugs on the passenger side could only be accessed from under the car for the last 2. My 98 I have to contort my arm oddly to reach the rear passenger plugs and disassemble a ton of top end stuff to make room.
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Indeed, it took me 5 or 6 hours to change the plugs on my 1994 Z28. A couple were easy, then an hour to drop the y-pipe and get the rears from below, then 3 hours to figure out how to get a tool on or even touch #2. Lots of other interference to be removed along the way. I think the GM book rate on that job is 8 hours. Then when I had that engine and compartment apart to swap the cam I still couldn't really figure out how to change some of the plug wires. Hopefully the C8 won't be that bad.
Changing the accessory belt may be a pain, but on a C6, a clutch change requires dropping the rear transaxle, which is a pain if you don't have the setup to do that.
Plugs, spark plug wires, oil changes done from below. Reminds me of my 88 camaro days... stock plugs on the passenger side could only be accessed from under the car for the last 2. My 98 I have to contort my arm oddly to reach the rear passenger plugs and disassemble a ton of top end stuff to make room.
Plugs, spark plug wires, oil changes done from below. Reminds me of my 88 camaro days... stock plugs on the passenger side could only be accessed from under the car for the last 2. My 98 I have to contort my arm oddly to reach the rear passenger plugs and disassemble a ton of top end stuff to make room.
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