FRONT ENGINE or MID ENGINE or BOTH
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Okay , I see , as an artist eye , that we can not communicate gently so ... I decided to quit this forum , please , I am asking to the manager of the corvette forum.com to erase all my information from this website because I couldn't find how to do that ,
I repeat , I do not want to be a part of corvette forum.com anymore,
Bye ,
I repeat , I do not want to be a part of corvette forum.com anymore,
Bye ,
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It's a major reason the C8 will be DCT only. Porsche does it in the closest ZF manual transaxle by staying just under that torque limit, but keeping HP in LT territory.
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This picture, I got from chevrolet.com , the new C8 is a great car , everybody speaks about the performance and GM says that they reach the limit of front engine so they did a mid engine, but ... how many people can drive their car on the limit ? in this perspective of thinking , Aston Martin must switch to mid engine ?
In my opinion , GM can ( or must ) have 2 version of the corvette , one with front engine ( can we call Grand Tourismo ? ) for the purist like me , and mid engine for the high performance and track use... Personally , If I can , I would buy C7 , C8 is a "cheap" copy of MAcLAren , NSX and other Ferrari ... lost his identity and during the unveil , I remark that all speakers made a comparison with Ferrari .... Corvette is not a ferrari , it is a iconic american sport car with 66 years of history !!! I owned 10 years a 1988 C4 corvette, put 60.000 miles on it and loved every moment behind the wheel , I am not against "change " but sometimes radical changes can have negative outcomes... We will see....
I agree with you. I don't know who was asking for this but I sure don't like it. AND NO I'M NOT 75 YEARS OLD I'M 37!
I thought the C7 tail light situation was a debacle. This is is crazy. The car looks like a generic version of every other mid-engine car on earth. Since when does Corvette follow Europe? Yikes. And no manual transmission?
I've owned a C5 and currently own a C6 and I'm officially done with the Corvette and it's sad because I've been a fan all my life. I'm sure I'm not alone. Maybe I'm a Mustang guy now?
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@C8Jake It is your opinion , this thread is MORE IMPORTANT than you think , you will see that with time , and REMEMBER THIS THREAD.
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I love the looks of the C8, its a legit supercar , I love the price even more.
I love how Chevrolet is basically walking up to lambo, Ferrari , McLaren and just open hand slapping them right across the face
But in some ways it is a bit sad , corvettes always had the long front nose and certain styling attributes which may be gone for good now
But ive never been this excited about a car in my life
Im pretending the no manual thing isn't true, and that's keeping me going for now
I love how Chevrolet is basically walking up to lambo, Ferrari , McLaren and just open hand slapping them right across the face
But in some ways it is a bit sad , corvettes always had the long front nose and certain styling attributes which may be gone for good now
But ive never been this excited about a car in my life
Im pretending the no manual thing isn't true, and that's keeping me going for now
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@BlackStevo I think you are confused about EVOLUTION and REVOLUTION and the examples that you gave are just meaningless , you don't see the BIG PICTURE and go for small details , and there is traditions,
So , you will be happy to see in the future a fully electric corvette with zero emissions and max 0.7G capability , and 150 mph max speed , no V8 lovely sound . and you will buy it in the future ? are you sure ?
Yes, our civilization on the planet earth is evolving , but there are some exceptions which remember the past and are very valuable , if not , WHY THE MUSEUM EXISTS ? why Van Gogh paintings costs between 50 and 150 millions ? and not today artists ?
I hope you to have a larger perception of life and it is important the memories , the past , we need to conserve , it is why we adore Gulwing Mercedes SL , it is why we adore Aston Martin DB5 and more...
So , you will be happy to see in the future a fully electric corvette with zero emissions and max 0.7G capability , and 150 mph max speed , no V8 lovely sound . and you will buy it in the future ? are you sure ?
Yes, our civilization on the planet earth is evolving , but there are some exceptions which remember the past and are very valuable , if not , WHY THE MUSEUM EXISTS ? why Van Gogh paintings costs between 50 and 150 millions ? and not today artists ?
I hope you to have a larger perception of life and it is important the memories , the past , we need to conserve , it is why we adore Gulwing Mercedes SL , it is why we adore Aston Martin DB5 and more...
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@C8Jake It is your opinion , this thread is MORE IMPORTANT than you think , you will see that with time , and REMEMBER THIS THREAD.
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https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...dying-business
Corvette fans still holding out hope for a manual transmission in the C8 generation of the Chevrolet Corvette, abandon hope. Not only does the Corvette’s chief engineer and vehicle line director say the Corvette won’t get a manual, but building manual transmissions is a dying industry.
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Yes, that's what TJ has to say today, based upon a decision made by his bosses. Being the car guy he is, he'd likely tell a trusted friend an entirely different story, confidentially of course. Different decisions have been made by more prestigious manufacturers. The manual is not quite dead yet.
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The manual transmission C8 is not dead. It can still be manufactured in a subsequent model or MY.
There are, however, many hoping that it never is installed in a C8. Unfortunately for them, it is YTBD.
There are, however, many hoping that it never is installed in a C8. Unfortunately for them, it is YTBD.
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Wow, you sure screwed that one up completely. What was said is that there is no currently-manufactured MANUAL transaxle that could handle more than 400 ft lbs. of torque reliably.
It's a major reason the C8 will be DCT only. Porsche does it in the closest ZF manual transaxle by staying just under that torque limit, but keeping HP in LT territory.
It's a major reason the C8 will be DCT only. Porsche does it in the closest ZF manual transaxle by staying just under that torque limit, but keeping HP in LT territory.
Because C6 ZR1 is a manual transaxle and so is C7 ZR1 considering the bolt-on nature of the DCT transmission that GM is using for the C8. They could put a manual on it, but there's no room for a clutch pedal. Prove me wrong.
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I think some people need to start reviewing their corvette history or visit the NCM for a refresher: the corvette started by copying european styled car and beating them in price by using more or less existing parts from other GM's other line ups.
You C5 owners should notice a lot of similarities to f-body cars and cavaliers inside...
https://moneyinc.com/top-10-sports-cars-of-the-1950s/
As technology evolved, the corvette and all the european sports cars evolved as well. It is only natural they move in lock step with each other, if anything, the C6 and C7 held back a bit with the FE design a bit longer.
You C5 owners should notice a lot of similarities to f-body cars and cavaliers inside...
https://moneyinc.com/top-10-sports-cars-of-the-1950s/
As technology evolved, the corvette and all the european sports cars evolved as well. It is only natural they move in lock step with each other, if anything, the C6 and C7 held back a bit with the FE design a bit longer.
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If you want to call the Tremec 6070 a "transaxle" that would work in the C8 ME configuration, I don't know what you've been smoking, but I can't help you.
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I think some people need to start reviewing their corvette history or visit the NCM for a refresher: the corvette started by copying european styled car and beating them in price by using more or less existing parts from other GM's other line ups.
You C5 owners should notice a lot of similarities to f-body cars and cavaliers inside...
https://moneyinc.com/top-10-sports-cars-of-the-1950s/
As technology evolved, the corvette and all the european sports cars evolved as well. It is only natural they move in lock step with each other, if anything, the C6 and C7 held back a bit with the FE design a bit longer.
You C5 owners should notice a lot of similarities to f-body cars and cavaliers inside...
https://moneyinc.com/top-10-sports-cars-of-the-1950s/
As technology evolved, the corvette and all the european sports cars evolved as well. It is only natural they move in lock step with each other, if anything, the C6 and C7 held back a bit with the FE design a bit longer.
No, they waited 50 YEARS to be in "lockstep" with these supposed trend setters in the sports car world. BS. The Corvette was the American take on the sports car, and only NOW have they become a follower. Sad.
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