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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 05:28 PM
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There seems to some people staying away from the C8 (at least for the first year) because they are worried about so-called "first year issues". People.... this isn't the '80s. Quality control is VERY much improved. You're probabaly thinking "But what about the 2019 Corvettes with issues". Those issues are just not worth it to GM to come up with a solution to when the C8 is already here. GM has done their homework and knows that they can't let this car get screwed up by stuff as petty as panel gaps/fitment issues, paint issues, etc. It's 2019 (and will probabaly be 2020 or very close to it by the time people start taking delivery) we have warranty, lemon law and lawyers if need be. Don't be scared of buying a 2020 C8. You could be enjoying your car for a long time before the 2021s start production, don't throw that away by waiting to buy a 2021 in case of possible"first year issues".
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I agree with the sentiment you're trying to get across, but I also see the other side of the issue. Everything about this car is new. I don't blame anyone who wants to wait a little bit before committing.
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I agree with the sentiment you're trying to get across, but I also see the other side of the issue. Everything about this car is new. I don't blame anyone who wants to wait a little bit before committing.
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 05:34 PM
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The OP must have stock holdings with GM.
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 05:35 PM
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Exactly. I have owned a 2005 and a 2014 never had any issues.
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 05:35 PM
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Well after the 8AT, GS/Z06 wheels cracks, Z06 overheating, LT3 dash (all pretty major problems to me, enough to warrant recall) and other problems mentioned here before...I don't hold it agains the first year doubters since it is a new DCT. And behind the seat.

Any engine work will be extremely complicated since you probably have to remove the seats to even get to the LT2. Good thing the DCT is behind the engine so you probably don't need to remove the engine to work on the DCT.

I hope you're right but let's not have our rose colored glasses on I have my C8 deposit but hoping for the best!

I do think the 2nd or 3rd year buyers will be paying a higher MSRP which may have factory incentives but those same factory incentives will be wiped out by any rise in MSRP like the 2015 C7.
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 05:40 PM
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Any engine work will be extremely complicated since you probably have to remove the seats to even get to the LT2. Good thing the DCT is behind the engine so you probably don't need to remove the engine to work on the DCT.
The cutaway chassis GM has shown doesn't appear to have any access panels in the mid-ship bulkhead. If it can't be done in the car, the whole assembly will probably need to be dropped out the bottom. I can't wait to get a look at the service manuals when they become available.
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 05:46 PM
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Just ask first year haters if they would rather have a 2014 A6 or a 2015 A8. It's nothing more than superstition. It doesn't really matter because first year sales will be astronomical anyway which shows you most people don't abide by it.
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 05:50 PM
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I wouldn't call them haters. Skeptics maybe. But haters is a bit strong.
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Just ask first year haters if they would rather have a 2014 A6 or a 2015 A8. It's nothing more than superstition. It doesn't really matter because first year sales will be astronomical anyway which shows you most people don't abide by it.
The 2014 A6 was a carry over from the C6 if I'm not mistaken. It should have been obvious a new trans was on the way. We finally have a DCT in the C8. Doubt that's changing next year.

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The OP must have stock holdings with GM.
And with false accusations like that you must be friends with... oh this isn't the right section for that...

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Well after the 8AT, GS/Z06 wheels cracks, Z06 overheating, LT3 dash (all pretty major problems to me, enough to warrant recall) and other problems mentioned here before...I don't hold it agains the first year doubters since it is a new DCT. And behind the seat.

Any engine work will be extremely complicated since you probably have to remove the seats to even get to the LT2. Good thing the DCT is behind the engine so you probably don't need to remove the engine to work on the DCT.

I hope you're right but let's not have our rose colored glasses on I have my C8 deposit but hoping for the best!

I do think the 2nd or 3rd year buyers will be paying a higher MSRP which may have factory incentives but those same factory incentives will be wiped out by any rise in MSRP like the 2015 C7.
Remove seats? What would that do for you? There's a firewall behind them, not too certain you'll be able to do anything by removing the seats.

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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Zora_Vette
Don't be scared to buy a C8

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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Zora_Vette
And with false accusations like that you must be friends with... oh this isn't the right section for that...
Just say it! Yes, he must be friends with CNN! We all know it's fake news... maybe with the exception of 1 or 2. RUSSIA DID IT!!!

In all seriousness though, c'mon... he was clearly jesting. No need to take it so serious.
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ToddC7
Just say it! Yes, he must be friends with CNN! We all know it's fake news... maybe with the exception of 1 or 2. RUSSIA DID IT!!!

In all seriousness though, c'mon... he was clearly jesting. No need to take it so serious.
Wasn't going to say CNN but ok
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Zora_Vette
The 2014 A6 was a carry over from the C6 if I'm not mistaken. It should have been obvious a new trans was on the way. We finally have a DCT in the C8. Doubt that's changing next year.
That doesn't nullify the point. A "first year hater" (not my term) who waited a year on the C7 would march right into A8 territory. This isn't about transmissions per se.
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 06:23 PM
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I totally agree. We only have so many years on earth, and I'm not going to waste one or two not driving my dream car because of fear.
If you wait for the next best and better thing, you will be waiting forever.
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 06:25 PM
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I see what you're saying...but this is the part I have trouble with:

Originally Posted by Zora_Vette
You're probabaly thinking "But what about the 2019 Corvettes with issues". Those issues are just not worth it to GM to come up with a solution to when the C8 is already here. .
That would speak to GM's lack of concern about customers who are paying 50,000+ for a 2019 Corvette...which is very troubling for future buyers.

In any case, I really don't think that's what GM is thinking, and I also don't believe that there will be first year issues...there is way too much riding on this car for GM.
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I am really interested to see how the DCT performs on the track , and what sort of heating issues are experienced running 30 minute HPDE sessions in 90+ degree weather. I have a S550 (17) Mustang GT now , It's took a year or so for the reports to come in on the differential overheating issues and what could be done to mitigate it . I am going to let other people do that for me on the C8 too.
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Originally Posted by 70RT440
That would speak to GM's lack of concern about cu$tomer$ who are paying $50k+ for a '19
you mean $ucker$

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Good!! Now that I have the personal endorsement of Zora_Vette, I feel all better about the C8.
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by marknagy13
I totally agree. We only have so many years on earth, and I'm not going to waste one or two not driving my dream car because of fear.
If you wait for the next best and better thing, you will be waiting forever.
Exactly. You can keep waiting and waiting, or can take action. Why wait 1 year for a 2nd year C8 Stingray when you can wait 1 more and get a C8 Z06? Better yet, why not wait a few more after that for a C9??

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Good!! Now that I have the personal endorsement of Zora_Vette, I feel all better about the C8.
I'm not endorsing anything. I'm trying to add some common sense to the C8 forum. Smh

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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 06:38 PM
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First year models don't usually scare me off but I hate, hate, hate first year depreciation on a toy. While I am waiting for a garage queen, I will also be keeping an eye on potential issues. Love the looks but I am in no hurry.
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