Notices
C8 Stingray/General Discussion The place to discuss the next generation of Corvette including the Stingray.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Wheel Design

Development costs...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 5, 2019 | 08:48 PM
  #1  
Batman 357's Avatar
Batman 357
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 888
Likes: 50
From: Oklahoma City Oklahoma
Default Development costs...

Okay guys, I know there are some smart folks on the forum. Any guesses as to the developement costs for the C8. How munch money did it take to go from an idea to a car for sale on the dealers lot. Design, testing, development, equipment, manufacture, training the whole ball of wax. There were years of empolyee salarys and lots more. I know nothing of real business but my guess is 80 million.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2019 | 08:58 PM
  #2  
jabingb's Avatar
jabingb
Intermediate
 
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 26
Likes: 7
From: Marin County, CA
Default

80 mil is a drop in the bucket, suspect it's somewhere north of 1 billion to bring it to market, would be an interesting number to contemplate, someone in the industry will give us an educated guess?
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2019 | 09:07 PM
  #3  
Rooster OG's Avatar
Rooster OG
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 6,223
Likes: 1,700
From: Northern California
St. Jude Donor '15
Default

Well, in 2015 they spent $439 million to upgrade the paint shop, then in 2016 they spent $290 million to upgrade vehicle operations in Bowling Green for the c8. They just announced the addition more than 400 hourly jobs to build the c8 two shifts a day.

Its been a really big investment for them.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2019 | 09:24 PM
  #4  
AORoads's Avatar
AORoads
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 46,295
Likes: 2,596
From: Northern, VA
St. Jude Donor '15
"In honor of jpee"
Default

agree w. rooster and jabing.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2019 | 10:35 PM
  #5  
24/Eray's Avatar
24/Eray
Race Director
15 Year Member
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 16,644
Likes: 7,717
From: NJ
Default

1 billion ca-jillion dollas... give or take a buck.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2019 | 08:28 AM
  #6  
JALLEN4's Avatar
JALLEN4
Melting Slicks
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 2,873
Likes: 2,505
Default

Ten years ago the minimum cost to develop a new model was reported to be at least a billion dollars. Since there were very few carry-over parts used and a completely new concept developed it would be a good guess the billion dollar mark was easily surpassed.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2019 | 08:34 AM
  #7  
jimmyb's Avatar
jimmyb
Race Director
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 13,934
Likes: 4,257
From: NC
Default

I think one billion is a good guess. It was said the C7 budget was $250 million and that was an existing platform
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2019 | 09:20 AM
  #8  
fasttoys's Avatar
fasttoys
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,149
Likes: 1,349
From: Big D Dallas TEXAS
Default

Originally Posted by Batman 357
Okay guys, I know there are some smart folks on the forum. Any guesses as to the developement costs for the C8. How munch money did it take to go from an idea to a car for sale on the dealers lot. Design, testing, development, equipment, manufacture, training the whole ball of wax. There were years of empolyee salarys and lots more. I know nothing of real business but my guess is 80 million.
I was told by someone at GM finance years ago the team wanted about 900 million to build the new C7 ME. Then the financial crisis hit and GM went into bankruptcy and they were given 240 million to make the C7. GM had to compromise with the C7 during a time when the company was going through tough times, and look what they were able to build. The new C8 is being built during a time when GM is more productive and profitable, this car is going to be light years better than the C7. I would say the new C8 is close to a billion dollar project for GM. Think about a time when you worked for a company that was going through financial troubles that is when the C7 was being designed. Today GM is not even the same company this should help the C8 project which should make this the best corvette when it comes to quality, fit and finish truly the entire package.

Last edited by fasttoys; Aug 6, 2019 at 09:27 AM.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Aug 6, 2019 | 10:28 AM
  #9  
jim2527's Avatar
jim2527
Race Director
20 Year Member
Liked
Top Answer: 1
Top Answer: 3
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 19,348
Likes: 654
From: Tampa, Florida
Default

Post #8.. I remember reading that.

If first year C8 average price is $75K and they sell 30K units GM will have $2.2billion in revenue and $700M-ish in profit from all sources. It'll take 2 years max for C8 to pay for itself.

Last edited by jim2527; Aug 6, 2019 at 10:30 AM.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2019 | 12:08 PM
  #10  
JadeRaven's Avatar
JadeRaven
Pro
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 608
Likes: 259
From: Louisiana
Default

I don't think the development costs are anywhere near a Billi. But certainly in the hundreds of millis.

Line, labor and tooling costs are not research or product development. Nor is production cost. But yeah, the total spend on C8 production will be in the billions.
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2019 | 12:54 PM
  #11  
Batman 357's Avatar
Batman 357
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 888
Likes: 50
From: Oklahoma City Oklahoma
Default

Twice the C7 costs seems reasonable. Still a lot of money.
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2019 | 01:03 PM
  #12  
Deicide's Avatar
Deicide
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 755
Likes: 69
From: Lakewood CA
Default

It's all about the projected ROI
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2019 | 01:31 PM
  #13  
jefnvk's Avatar
jefnvk
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 2,096
Likes: 1,024
From: AA/Metro Detroit
Default

Originally Posted by JadeRaven
Line, labor and tooling costs are not research or product development. Nor is production cost. But yeah, the total spend on C8 production will be in the billions.
Yeah, it all depends on what you want to count. R&D alone wouldn't be $1B, total cost to GM from the first meeting to first car off the line will easily hit that number.

If you think that is a lot, a modest 200k sales volume over the life at the presumed MSRP of 60k would gross $12B.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Development costs...





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:27 PM.

story-0
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-2
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE