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a back up camera is standard on all C8 Corvettes. That is when seeing to the rear is most important. It is also standard on all convertibles. They convertible option is $500 cheaper on the 2LT and 3LT. Will they make it a separate option? Maybe later.
She has had fusions with both hip, then collarbone/sternum bone self donated. And then the titanium plate.
With all due respect, I believe that you may be confused.
There are 2 different rear cameras:
1. Back Up Parking camera that is standard on all 2020 Corvettes
2. A panoramic rear view camera that uses the traditional rear view "mirror" location, to locate a LED display. The camera itself is located on the rear roof of the Corvette, as shown in the red picture below. The Camera is part of the $7k 2LT package, and standard on all convertibles for $7,500.
While you do see something (not arguing that is better than nothing), the rear view cameras are odd. When you look in a standard mirror and need to see something a little farther one way or the other, a very small movement of your head changes the reflection and view. With a camera mirror it makes no difference if you move your head like a parrot on speed, the picture never changes. Again, that's a bit odd, I'm sure it's a wide angle lens to make up for as much as they can. The wider the angle though, the smaller the objects are in the image. Personally I would like to see it standard, but it's not a deal breaker by any means. Guess I'm stuck, I'm buying a 1LT. I did drive a 458 for a day and never noticed any visibility issues at all, just wasn't an issue.
Last edited by Phil1098; Oct 22, 2019 at 11:34 PM.
With all due respect, I believe that you may be confused.
There are 2 different rear cameras:
1. Back Up Parking camera that is standard on all 2020 Corvettes
2. A panoramic rear view camera that uses the traditional rear view "mirror" location, to locate a LED display. The camera itself is located on the rear roof of the Corvette, as shown in the red picture below. The Camera is part of the $7k 2LT package, and standard on all convertibles for $7,500.
My bone graph was sourced from my hip bone. Was almost as much fun as my neck itself.
I am not confused. I understand the difference. It enhances the view that the rear view mirror gives, you side have side view mirrors to see the blind spot areas. I have owned a Fiero and an Elise and several Corvettes. The rear view mirror was limited in several. However, I never had trouble seeing my blind spots using my side view mirrors. I have been driving 44 years without a rear view camera, it has not been a problem. It is a potential improvement, but not critical, nor is it criminally negligent to not include it in the base car. The rear visibility is no worse than my 74 Z28 , or Elise, or Fiero. I am not concerned. With limited neck mobility it may be be more of a concern, but for my wife it is only backing up. How long did you drive without one? How did you cope?
however, it is not going to change this year, maybe next year.
The donor sites both still hurt her from time to time, and yes the donation sites hurt worse than the fusion sites after the surgery.
The rear visibility is no worse than my 74 Z28 , or Elise, or Fiero. .
I don't disagree with your general argument, but... While I haven't driven an Elise, I think the view out the back of the C8 coupe is much narrower than either the Camaro or Fiero. Those cars have rear windows that are narrow vertically, but the C8 is very narrow horizontally, limiting your view to the left and right. Narrower than the C7 coupe by a significant amount.
While you do see something (not arguing that is better than nothing), the rear view cameras are odd. When you look in a standard mirror and need to see something a little farther one way or the other, a very small movement of your head changes the reflection and view. With a camera mirror it makes no difference if you move your head like a parrot on speed, the picture never changes. Again, that's a bit odd, I'm sure it's a wide angle lens to make up for as much as they can. The wider the angle though, the smaller the objects are in the image. Personally I would like to see it standard, but it's not a deal breaker by any means. Guess I'm stuck, I'm buying a 1LT. I did drive a 458 for a day and never noticed any visibility issues at all, just wasn't an issue.
I have that camera mirror in my 2019 Denali. It works great and is adjustable for 3 different fields of view from very wide to just slightly wider than a standard mirror. Pretty much no blind spot and you don't see any portion of your own vehicle.
Just and FYI and it adds nothing to the Rear camera mirror discussion, a rear backup camera has been required as standard on ALL new cars sold in the USA since the 2018 model year.
the rear camera needs to be standard equipment on all Mid engine Corvettes.
it's a safety issue.
Demanding 7K for a package to get it is criminally negligent, and foolish considering 99.9% of C8 buyers will have never owned a mid-engine car before.
Just to clarify:
There are 2 different rear cameras:
1. Back Up Parking camera that is standard on all 2020 Corvettes
2. A panoramic rear view camera that uses the traditional rear view "mirror" location, to locate a LED display. Part of the $7k 2LT package, and standard on all convertibles for $7,500.
after having to get rid of my 6th gen Camaro SS due to the terrible visibility, I have serious concerns daily driving my C8, especially in traffic, and at Five Point intersections.
Even though I sat in the C8, the OP's question cannot be truly answered until one has driven the car in traffic for extended period of time.
The terrible visibility in my Camaro wasn't obvious on the test drive, and it became worse the more I daily drove mine.
If you have to sell your car because of “terrible visibility”, it’s time to quit driving.
If you have to sell your car because of “terrible visibility”, it’s time to quit driving.
I just did a track day on the all-new 2020 BMW S1000RR and was in the fastest group out of 100 riders.
Try running your mouth with that condescending attitude in the real world, and see how that works out for you.
I just did a track day on the all-new 2020 BMW S1000RR and was in the fastest group out of 100 riders.
Try running your mouth with that condescending attitude in the real world, and see how that works out for you.
Congratulations! Quite impressive, but I am curious how you accomplished that. I read through the specs, it doesn’t even have a rear view mirror, much less a review camera and corresponding display. It is like you did it using you side view mirrors. With your fusions, I doubt you turned your head around and looked.
Congratulations! Quite impressive, but I am curious how you accomplished that. I read through the specs, it doesn’t even have a rear view mirror, much less a review camera and corresponding display. It is like you did it using you side view mirrors. With your fusions, I doubt you turned your head around and looked.
just curious.
A bike has no blind spots.
Plus, when you're on the track, there's no reason to look behind you, especially when you're leading.
Is there a point you're trying to make, or are you just trying, and failing, to bust my *****?
A bike has no blind spots.
Plus, when you're on the track, there's no reason to look behind you, especially when you're leading.
Is there a point you're trying to make, or are you just trying, and failing, to bust my *****?
Of course a bike has a blind spot, right behind you. It has no rear view mirror, and a person’s head does not swivel 180 degrees, plus it is dangerous to look backwards at high speeds. So when needed you use the side view mirrors to get the rear view you need, just like in a car. You cope just fine, in fact, you excelled in the absence of a rear view mirror. Yet for some reason, you believe it to be “criminally negligent” to not include something that the Corvette never had, and cars in general didn’t have for over the first 100 years of their existence.
I am confident that you will survive without a rear view camera as will anyone that chooses not to have the 2LT package or above.
It seems I am more confident in your driving ability than you are.
I will know more on Monday (my date to the reveal). I expect the rear window to be narrow, however, with the side views adjusted properly outward to pick up cars leaving the rear view mirror field of view, it should be okay. Certainly not as open as the C7, but passable I'd wager. I'd always double check over my shoulder before making any lane changes just to be sure.
Update-
Okay, sat in the car and adjusted the rear view. Car had hatch open (not much you can do at a reveal with everyone opening and closing everything while you're in the car) so view was good (like the C7). Rear window is small by comparison. I have to surmise that using the rear view through the rear window will be rather "tunnel-vision-ish".. Cannot tell if adjusting side views will provide full rear/side view coverage when driving. Guessing if you order the 1LT you should expect to do some "rubber-necking" if you want to change lanes safely..
Having sat in the car, to answer the OP’s original question... the visibility to the sides and rear at not good at all and you will need to rely on the mirrors and cameras, I suspect that C8s will, for a number of reasons, most likely be involved in a greater number of crashes than the couple of generations before it have been.
While you're at it look up the term ad hominem.
