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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 08:34 AM
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For the guys who are going to finance are you going to get a home improvement loan so the interest can be deducted
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Just curious.No phishing. I see a lot of guys are opting for the 1LT, which is the cheapest one. So are guys going out on a limb just to be the first one on the block to own one, and then in a short time when the bills pile up, they will dump the car.
it’s cheapest by 7-10k not like half off....over a few years of ownership that’s minimal...think people just don’t want to pay for things they don’t value. I mean that’s a decent watch for us watch guys.
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I'm going to set up a lemonade stand on the sidewalk.
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Originally Posted by Phil1098
My wife and I have discussed and we can leave our money invested and make 7% on it and get a loan for the majority at 2% and make 5% on our money.
exactly! You would be a fool to pay cash when you can do as you stated above...theres cheap money out there use it!
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Originally Posted by Warp Factor
I'm going to set up a lemonade stand on the sidewalk.
Do it...so I can call the police on you.


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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 09:28 AM
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My mutual fund portfolio is earning over 16% this year. I'm not buying a C8, but if you're paying cash, you're doing it wrong. Debt or no debt. I would 110% finance with today's rates.
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Cash, unless I can find an arbitrage opportunity to using financing (ie. pay 4% interest but earn more elsewhere). Problem is the markets are very shaky right now and there are not many low risk (key words) other investments with a 5%+ RoR out there.

On a side note, a good rule of thumb is that toys like this should not be more than ~5% of your net worth unless you don't mind impacting other aspects of your finances, such as when to retire, etc.

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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JerseyJack
exactly! You would be a fool to pay cash when you can do as you stated above...theres cheap money out there use it!
Absolutely true. Anyone would be a fool to take money out of an account paying 7%, when 3% loans are available.
It wasn't long ago when very wealthy investors were getting consistent 10 - 15% annual returns on their investments, regardless of market conditions. They invested with a well known and respected financial genius in New York. Only wealthy investors were allowed to invest in the fund, since he only accepted money from a select clientele who had substantial funds to invest. That financial genius was Bernie Madoff, and he conned investors out of $65 billion before his Ponzi scheme was discovered.
Even on legitimate investments the SEC has a mandatory disclaimer:
Past performance is no guarantee of future results.
People who lost 40 - 50% of their stock market investments in 2008 - 2009 are keenly aware of that disclaimer. But that won't happen again, right? Also even if it does happen, some think they are shrewd investors who know how to time the market, and avoid those kind of losses. OTOH if you want a federally guaranteed investment, you'll be lucky to get 3%.
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Originally Posted by sly1
Past performance is no guarantee of future results.
People who lost 40 - 50% of their stock market investments in 2008 - 2009 are keenly aware of that disclaimer. But that won't happen again, right? Also even if it does happen, some think they are shrewd investors who know how to time the market, and avoid those kind of losses. OTOH if you want a federally guaranteed investment, you'll be lucky to get 3%.
+1. Fellow Boglehead?
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Originally Posted by 'Merica
My mutual fund portfolio is earning over 16% this year. I'm not buying a C8, but if you're paying cash, you're doing it wrong. Debt or no debt. I would 110% finance with today's rates.
Damn, I guess I shouldn't have paid off my house? I've seen some Magnum P.I. commercials for a "reverse mortgage". Come to think about it, his Ferrari looked good in Red, I think i'll do that too, red that is, not Ferrari.
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I'm Retired. I figured I would get a new Gig being a Board Member for an Oil Company owned by a Ukrainian Oligarch.

I have vast experience in the Field. I used to work at my Father's Flying A Gas Station back in the 60's.

It pays $82,000 a Month, so I only need to work there one Month to get a well equipped C8.

That being said, do people ask how someone paid to buy a $60,000 GMC Sierra Pickup Truck on their Forum?
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Originally Posted by Phil1098
My wife and I have discussed and we can leave our money invested and make 7% on it and get a loan for the majority at 2% and make 5% on our money.
Where are you making 7%?
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Originally Posted by Warp Factor
I'm going to set up a lemonade stand on the sidewalk in front of my house.
Originally Posted by ATC399
Do it...so I can call the police on you.
You don't want me to be able to buy a C8?
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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe
There are NO "guaranteed 7%," investments. You're dreaming.

There are NO "guaranteed 6.78% investments."​​ ​
Originally Posted by turbota
Where are you making 7%?
Agreed, no guaranteed returns like that ... none that I know of anyway, unless you're a politician ... but let me say that my employer terminated our company's IRA plan, distributed it to us employees, and I rolled mine over to a set of Vanguard index funds on 10/22/2012. My account value is up 87.61% as yesterday's market close. That's 6.95 years which is a compound annual growth rate of 9.47%. Yes, I'm aware that the market has done very well over that period, but I'm comfortable with the stated 6.78% or even 7% average long-term stock market returns. It's probably actually somewhat higher than that ... but who knows what tomorrow will bring

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either Peso's or that new Apple crypto-currency

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I'll trade and pay cash. Retired w/ income more than expenses, no debt. Not trying to build wealth @ this point in my life, trying to spend it so when I croak all we've managed to save doesn't go to some ingrate .



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