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My choice of color is the all tan interior in the 3LT. What is the difference between these 4. Natural Leather, Natural Dipped Leather, Natural Leather w/Perforated Suede microfiber inserts and Natural Dipped Leather w/perforated sueded micro fiber inserts. Are there any pics to compare the 4?
In short, anything that states NATURAL means tan. "Natural leather" is the regular black & tan interior on 2LT cars, where "Dipped" means full tan on the 3LT. Each of those can have full leather seats or leather seats with suede inserts.
I did see that on that site where I built my car. But, maybe its me, in the pic they all look the same. I must be missing something.
There are multiple interior angles to see. If you're looking at the steering wheel you're not going to see much of the seats changing styles. Look at the other angle.
I did see that on that site where I built my car. But, maybe its me, in the pic they all look the same. I must be missing something.
The only part of the configurator I have an issue with is discerning if the Natural seat inserts are suede when you select that option. I can see the difference with the steering wheel, but it’s hard to tell with the natural seat inserts.
I have seen a real life picture of the two tone natural interior where the seats had black suede inserts, but haven’t seen a similar example with the full natural seats.
Last edited by JockItch; Oct 29, 2019 at 06:21 PM.
In the 3LT, all tan interior, I went back and forth between the two, and like pointed out above, I really cannot tell much difference. I guess the suede would be better on long drives. Keep your rear cool
Don't dig too deep, you will find out that you really aren't getting much in the way of leather. I am sure 100% leather is far to expensive and difficult to maintain and that Rubes like us would fail miserably given the responsibility to look after an expensive car and interior....
I kind of wish I had not become informed about the interior, sometimes ignorance is bliss. Someone posted a link to an explanation of what exactly you are getting in terms of the material used to make the "leather" if you can even call it that. Would def be a good sticky as I am sure this topic will be visited again and again.
With the Natural Dipped 3LT option AND Suede selected the center of the seat bottom and back are perforated suede. as well as:
Steering Wheel
Portion of door panel that has the switch controls, and that suede extends up the dash (like the red on the dash with red interior selected)
Knee bolster on drivers side
Glove box
Lower right side of the "wall" of switches
Console around shifter buttons/cup holders
And of course, with 3LT, everything above the bottom of windows is suede.
Don't dig too deep, you will find out that you really aren't getting much in the way of leather. I am sure 100% leather is far to expensive and difficult to maintain and that Rubes like us would fail miserably given the responsibility to look after an expensive car and interior....
I kind of wish I had not become informed about the interior, sometimes ignorance is bliss. Someone posted a link to an explanation of what exactly you are getting in terms of the material used to make the "leather" if you can even call it that. Would def be a good sticky as I am sure this topic will be visited again and again.
Mulan leather is ground up scraps mixed with a resin and then coated with something to increase it's wearability. Nappa is real leather but can be stained and is susceptible to wear and wrinkles.
Also the leather dashes on the 3LT cars has had some issues. Do your research and due diligence.
Mulan leather is ground up scraps mixed with a resin and then coated with something to increase it's wearability. Nappa is real leather but can be stained and is susceptible to wear and wrinkles.
Also the leather dashes on the 3LT cars has had some issues. Do your research and due diligence.
I was going with the 2LT but love the all tan interior the 3 LT has. Nuts, I am on the fence again. This the first I have heard about problems with the dash. What are the problems, and where can I read up on them. Thanks
In the 3LT, all tan interior, I went back and forth between the two, and like pointed out above, I really cannot tell much difference. I guess the suede would be better on long drives. Keep your rear cool
in the Natural Dipped interior, the carpeting, door upper and lower panels, console area, roof headliners, pillars, glove box, and most of the dash are all tan. In the Natural interior those areas are black. There is no black leather or carpet anywhere in the Dipped interior.
The difference between the two is quite striking. There must be something wrong with the way you are configuring the car if you can’t see the carpeting and doors and console and dash all change color between the two. You may have a better view using the visualizer rather than the configurator.
The other possibility is that you are talking only about the seats rather than the interior — although you labeled your post as “interior”. If that is the case, the seats are the same in both the dipped and regular interiors.
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I was going with the 2LT but love the all tan interior the 3 LT has. Nuts, I am on the fence again. This the first I have heard about problems with the dash. What are the problems, and where can I read up on them. Thanks
There are numerous threads in the C7 forum about issues with delamination of the leather in the 3LT cars. Hopefully GM has fixed the issue and it will not happen with the C8 cars. This is not just a GM issue as I have experienced the same issue with several BMWs. It is the heat that causes the adhesive to fail and the leather starts to peel away from the dash. Using a windshield blocker can help prevent this when the car is parked outside in the sun.
in the Natural Dipped interior, the carpeting, door upper and lower panels, console area, roof headliners, pillars, glove box, and most of the dash are all tan. In the Natural interior those areas are black. There is no black leather or carpet anywhere in the Dipped interior.
The difference between the two is quite striking. There must be something wrong with the way you are configuring the car if you can’t see the carpeting and doors and console and dash all change color between the two. You may have a better view using the visualizer rather than the configurator.
The other possibility is that you are talking only about the seats rather than the interior — although you labeled your post as “interior”. If that is the case, the seats are the same in both the dipped and regular interiors.
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The pics I see are from the rear and do show a great shot of the interior, with just a small part of the seat bottom showing. I was hoping for a shot from the front showing the suede inserts.
The pics I see are from the rear and do show a great shot of the interior, with just a small part of the seat bottom showing. I was hoping for a shot from the front showing the suede inserts.
Ah, you are talking about the seats all looking the same in the dippied and regular interior. Yes they are the same.
The visualizer and configurator do not render a noticeable difference between leather and suede. (For example, in the dipped interior, suede replaces leather on the console, door armrests, etc but the renderings do not show that.)
If you want to see what suede inserts look like, your best bet is to go to a dealer and look at a C7 equipped with suede seat inserts. It is hard to see a difference from more than a few feet away.
There are numerous threads in the C7 forum about issues with delamination of the leather in the 3LT cars. Hopefully GM has fixed the issue and it will not happen with the C8 cars. This is not just a GM issue as I have experienced the same issue with several BMWs. It is the heat that causes the adhesive to fail and the leather starts to peel away from the dash. Using a windshield blocker can help prevent this when the car is parked outside in the sun.
Yes, numerous threads on it. I would get the 2LT and if you want the better leather seats, get 2LT with the GT2 seats. Save some money versus 3LT. The other thing with the dipped, with a lighter color, is the glare on the windshield. My C5 had a lighter grey interior that had a lot of glare.
The pics I see are from the rear and do show a great shot of the interior, with just a small part of the seat bottom showing. I was hoping for a shot from the front showing the suede inserts.
As I said, there are two interior angles you can look at. One is looking forward at the steering wheel and the second is looking back from the passenger side door:
Unfortunately neither give a good representation of what's leather and what's suede... because they're both matching "Natural" color materials. I think you get a better visualization if you look at the "Adrenaline Red with suede inserts" interior because the suede parts are shown in black (I've outlined in yellow):
Don't dig too deep, you will find out that you really aren't getting much in the way of leather. I am sure 100% leather is far to expensive and difficult to maintain and that Rubes like us would fail miserably given the responsibility to look after an expensive car and interior....
I kind of wish I had not become informed about the interior, sometimes ignorance is bliss. Someone posted a link to an explanation of what exactly you are getting in terms of the material used to make the "leather" if you can even call it that. Would def be a good sticky as I am sure this topic will be visited again and again.
Originally Posted by rmorin1249
Mulan leather is ground up scraps mixed with a resin and then coated with something to increase it's wearability. Nappa is real leather but can be stained and is susceptible to wear and wrinkles.
Also the leather dashes on the 3LT cars has had some issues. Do your research and due diligence.
Hard to make a "sticky" as all you'll get from GM statements are:
The 3LT "seating surface" is Nappa Leather (or Napa- both spelling OK) It is real tanned animal hide. Napa was a specific tanning process, today it varies. Note, it's reported Napa leather (as well as the higher amount of real leather on the wife's BMW X5 SUV top of the line interior) is covered with a thin plastic layer to stop staining.
All other interior fabric materials are called "Soft Touch."
One is called Mulan (that is GM's made up name like Corinthian was Chryslers)
Most of us believe Mulan is what is called "bonded leather" that contains up to 40% ground up leather scraps and man made like vinyl. There is no specific amount of ground leather scarps to be called "bonded leather." One forum poster confirmed he was told up to 40% by a manager at Bowling Green. Another poster working for GM confirmed they evaluated "real tanned leather" for bolsters and it was not as good as other materials. Therefore the GM statement is no doubt correct, the 3LT "seating surface" and ONLY the seating surface in Napa leather.
The other "Soft Touch" materials other than Napa for the 3LT seating surface and Mulan for whatever, is Vinyl having no ground up leather scrapes..
By deduction, it appears the 3LT dash is Mulan because a number of folks report shrinkage problems, 1LT and 2LT dash owners don't report that issue so those dashes are probably Vinyl.
Your guess as to what is Mulan or Vinyl. Both being man made they pass through embossing rolls so both have a "real leather look" Also both come in large rolls and are much easier to make into whatever fabric covers. Watch some video's like "How It's Made" re Rolls Royce and see how real hides have to be checked and marked to eliminate places with defects! Just like your skin a cows isn't perfect! Lots of scrape! Prefect to grind up to make Mulan rather then send to the dump! All those McDonalds's (etc) cows must generate lots of leather scraps!
All the above was for the C7, which I have followed from my September 2013 built 3LT C7 Z51 through my current 2LT Grand Sport. My 3LT Natural Dipped C8 will "probably" be the same.
As I said, there are two interior angles you can look at. One is looking forward at the steering wheel and the second is looking back from the passenger side door:
Unfortunately neither give a good representation of what's leather and what's suede... because they're both matching "Natural" color materials. I think you get a better visualization if you look at the "Adrenaline Red with suede inserts" interior because the suede parts are shown in black (I've outlined in yellow):
Thanks. That is exactly the kind of pic that I wanted to see but could not find. Thanks again.
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Mulan leather is ground up scraps mixed with a resin and then coated with something to increase it's wearability. Nappa is real leather but can be stained and is susceptible to wear and wrinkles. 
