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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 08:21 PM
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I was at my dealer today having my 2016 Z06 serviced and talk with the mechanic eventually turned to C8's.
He said he was disappointed that the dealership hasn't sent anyone there for C8 training. So I asked him his thoughts on what he has seen/read about the upcoming C8.
He said he didn't see how it could be serviced without dropping the engine. OMFG. I have to say anyone buying a C8 first few years, more power to you. As always servicing the corvette looks like it will still prove to be an issue for owners.
Incredible.
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I would steer clear of this tech and this dealership....OMFG is right....incredible indeed!

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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 08:42 PM
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Send techs to training months in advance? So they can forget half of what they learn by the time the first C8’s get delivered? Sorry, doesn’t sound very sensible to me...
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 2016 first zo6
I was at my dealer today having my 2016 Z06 serviced and talk with the mechanic eventually turned to C8's.
He said he was disappointed that the dealership hasn't sent anyone there for C8 training. So I asked him his thoughts on what he has seen/read about the upcoming C8.
He said he didn't see how it could be serviced without dropping the engine. OMFG. I have to say anyone buying a C8 first few years, more power to you. As always servicing the corvette looks like it will still prove to be an issue for owners.
Incredible.
I think the tech is full of baloney. I have my Ferrari 458 serviced annually. Covered by Ferrari for 7 years.

They never had to drop the engine for any normal service .

The C8 normal maintenance will be no different that service on your average Silverado.

Its GM small block and one of the most basic and reliable designs. There a good reason the basic engine design is unchanged since 1955.

I am a hugh Corvette guy and I never had any issue getting any of the 12 I owned including my 2016 Callaway SC 757 serviced at my local Chevrolet dealership.


Guys it's a Chevy designed and built to be reliable and easy to maintain.

Guess what it wont melt if you drive it in the rain either.

It's not some euro exotic that techs are not familiar with. Just a good old Chevy that these PROFESSIONAL techs wont have any issue servicing .

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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 09:00 PM
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I've got 2 Boxster S, and regular maintenance doesn't require dropping engine.
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 09:15 PM
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^^
Have had a Cayman for almost 9 years. Engine has never been "dropped" for anything.
I've done the serpentine belt, plugs, oil changes, air filter, and even had to replace the oil air separator. All in my garage.. without any drama.
I've also replaced a harmonic balancer, clutch, and rebuilt a C5's torque tube. Now that was a damn nightmare without a lift.
Change is scary.

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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 09:36 PM
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Risky post indeed.
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 09:41 PM
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OP, please tell me you don't believe everything you hear....
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Just canceled my order!
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With the amount of dealer/service horror stories we've heard over the years, I wonder how many Corvette sales GM has lost. It seems everyday we hear a story of an incompetent mechanic or a dealer screwing something up. The dealership experience can be quite important for some at this price point. A college kid financing a used Sonic for 60 months at the desk next to the person paying cash for a brand new Corvette will always be the downfall to the Corvette until GM changes stuff.

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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 09:50 PM
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Let fear guide you and live a boring unfulfilled life. How many times has your C7 Z06 overheated? Huh you did not let the bad press stop you from buying it.

The mechanic is an idiot and should stick to oil changes, Tadge stated in press videos on this very forum, that the majority of the work can be performed without removal of the engine. The plugs and coil packs can be easily accessed under the car once the pan is removed. If you need major engine work that is another story and not much different than the C7. I have owned over 7 ME cars and never had an engine pulled.

About mechanics, you have good and bad regardless of brands. Had a Porsche store F up my car on a basic oil service, had my Z06 babied and meticulously maintained by one of my Chevrolet stores. I also had good work done at that same Porsche store but with a different mechanic. Be picky ask a lot of questions and choose the best SA and store in your area with his specialized mechanics and you should be good.

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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Zora_Vette
With the amount of dealer/service horror stories we've heard over the years, I wonder how many Corvette sales GM has lost. It seems everyday we hear a story of an incompetent mechanic or a dealer screwing something up. The dealership experience can be quite important for some at this price point. A college kid financing a used Sonic for 60 months at the desk next to the person paying cash for a brand new Corvette will always be the downfall to the Corvette until GM changes stuff.
You're so right. The dealer I ordered my C8 from was clueless, and that was after my typical sales guy handed me to the manager to "make sure I got my order right." I'm new to Corvettes, learned almost everything I know about the C8 from this board, and I could have talked circles around the guy who has been selling Chevrolets for 20 years. I get that he will sell seven C8s this year and 347 Silverados, but it still baffles me how you don't spend two hours educating yourself on your brand's benchmark product of the decade (century?).
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Pisswilly
Just canceled my order!
Great so I might have moved up one spot.
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 10:06 PM
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So much weirdness and condescension in the C8 forum right now. No customer cars yet and techs haven't seen them and we are scared that we will have to remove the engines to do oil changes.

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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 10:07 PM
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What a pile of smoked lunch meat. So exactly what service would need to be done that would require an engine drop? Engine oil and filter, nope. DCT filter, nope. Spark plugs, nope. Serpentine belt, nope. Ignition coils, nope. O2 sensors, nope. Belt tensioner, nope. Yeah, it sure is risky since all you do is drop a belly pan and everything is right there. Even the exhaust sweeps up and is completely away from the plugs, how easy are they on the FE car?
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tfann614
You're so right. The dealer I ordered my C8 from was clueless, and that was after my typical sales guy handed me to the manager to "make sure I got my order right." I'm new to Corvettes, learned almost everything I know about the C8 from this board, and I could have talked circles around the guy who has been selling Chevrolets for 20 years. I get that he will sell seven C8s this year and 347 Silverados, but it still baffles me how you don't spend two hours educating yourself on your brand's benchmark product of the decade (century?).
Because by the time he has a chance to use that knowledge selling less than 1 C8 per month, he will have forgotten 95% of it. On the other hand, he'll put two hours of training on the Silverado to use almost every single day. Where's he going to make his income - not on the 7 Corvettes.
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 11:37 PM
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Someone's been spiking the punch if you believe the C8 is going to have to have the engine dropped to service it..... best laugh I've had in a while....
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PROOF the internet is full of baloney.
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Originally Posted by 2016 first zo6
I was at my dealer today having my 2016 Z06 serviced and talk with the mechanic eventually turned to C8's.
He said he was disappointed that the dealership hasn't sent anyone there for C8 training. So I asked him his thoughts on what he has seen/read about the upcoming C8.
He said he didn't see how it could be serviced without dropping the engine. OMFG. I have to say anyone buying a C8 first few years, more power to you. As always servicing the corvette looks like it will still prove to be an issue for owners.
Incredible.

i will rely on Tadge who knows FAR MORE than your mechanic who admitted he knows nothing about the C8. I attended a presentation by Tadge where he spoke directly about C8 maintenance and serviceability. He showed a couple of slides that showed the GM mandated, no exceptions allowed, service time standard for every serviceable component that every GM car must meet before being allowed to go into production. The C8 broke EVERY service standard. Tadge want on to declare other than a major engine failure there are no components that require the engine to be dropped.

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the dealer is like the police

a strong force, capable of both helping and hurting you

avoid at all costs but if necessary, plan accordingly to maximize the benefits of such encounters
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