Nav integration...
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Burning Brakes
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Nav integration...
I'm amazed at all the new technological advancements in the latest C8 , just wondering if GM now finally allow us drivers to fully integrate cell phone technologies onto the Nav screen without purchasing their expensive built in Navigation.
Currently all my vehicles upon startup, recognize via bluetooth my cellphone & music files. It would be wonderful if when I hit the Nav button, it also recognizes that I want to use the always updated Google Map or Wave or whatever future program I set as default map program, instead of factory's built in Nav. All this is auto connected, while phone stays/remains in my cell phone holster on my body (or wife's phone stays in her purse), without us having to physical takes out phone & connect to USB wire, etc.
Both of our kids' latest vehicle purchases demands Apple Play/Android Auto features only & no built-in Nav option. But they still have to plug in a USB wire.
So does today's 2020 & beyond vehicles offer same technology via bluetooth, without physical wire connection?
Thanks,
Currently all my vehicles upon startup, recognize via bluetooth my cellphone & music files. It would be wonderful if when I hit the Nav button, it also recognizes that I want to use the always updated Google Map or Wave or whatever future program I set as default map program, instead of factory's built in Nav. All this is auto connected, while phone stays/remains in my cell phone holster on my body (or wife's phone stays in her purse), without us having to physical takes out phone & connect to USB wire, etc.
Both of our kids' latest vehicle purchases demands Apple Play/Android Auto features only & no built-in Nav option. But they still have to plug in a USB wire.
So does today's 2020 & beyond vehicles offer same technology via bluetooth, without physical wire connection?
Thanks,
Instructor
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Wire required for Apple Play/Android Auto for all packages. Some features like PDR and Front lift do require build in NAV so 2LT and 3LT also have build-in NAV besides the Apple Play/Android Auto.
Last edited by MoveOver; Dec 18, 2019 at 12:57 PM.
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I don't know if it is documented but that is the assumption. It isn't available on the 1LT which doesn't have nav but is available on the 2LT & 3LTs which does have nav. My suspicion is the lift is designed to work with the nav system built into the infotainment system. Or it could just be marketing...
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I drove all over Iceland with a pre-loaded google maps and no cell service. Typically, I would load the destination while I had wifi since the preloaded maps don't have the same level of detail for restaurants, hotels, and smaller attractions.
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My current factory extended warranty goes to 2023, so hopefully wireless CarPlay/AA feature will be available by then.
Also, look for integrated wireless charging pad, without wires...
Also, look for integrated wireless charging pad, without wires...
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2LT/3LT Packages do include wireless charging but at this time no wireless CarPlay/AA
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My guess is the OEM nav will have a more detailed and crisp screen than CarPlay. The wife’s Mercedes has Nav and CarPlay. CarPlay maps look like mud in comparison to thr native nav.
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I don't know if it is documented but that is the assumption. It isn't available on the 1LT which doesn't have nav but is available on the 2LT & 3LTs which does have nav. My suspicion is the lift is designed to work with the nav system built into the infotainment system. Or it could just be marketing...
MANUALLY lifting the front end wouldn't actually require Nav, but GM chose not to offer that option.
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I don't look at the map since I am driving. I only want directions and Carplay, since it offers live traffic, is fantastic. I have a hunch that most would agree.
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Wireless CarPlay or Android Auto requires the car's display system to use WiFi, not just Bluetooth. BT doesn't have enough bandwidth to support real time map updating. So the current hardware can't support wireless via just a software update.
The other downside to wireless AA / CP is that it sucks battery like there's no tomorrow, so you need to be charging at the same time. And wireless charging and navigation at the same time will really heat up the phone and battery.
It's really not THAT hard to plug your phone in when you need maps.
The other downside to wireless AA / CP is that it sucks battery like there's no tomorrow, so you need to be charging at the same time. And wireless charging and navigation at the same time will really heat up the phone and battery.
It's really not THAT hard to plug your phone in when you need maps.
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Wireless CarPlay or Android Auto requires the car's display system to use WiFi, not just Bluetooth. BT doesn't have enough bandwidth to support real time map updating. So the current hardware can't support wireless via just a software update.
The other downside to wireless AA / CP is that it sucks battery like there's no tomorrow, so you need to be charging at the same time. And wireless charging and navigation at the same time will really heat up the phone and battery.
The other downside to wireless AA / CP is that it sucks battery like there's no tomorrow, so you need to be charging at the same time. And wireless charging and navigation at the same time will really heat up the phone and battery.
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Now whether or not GM set it up to work that way is a whole other question. It depends on how much of the software functionality is in the lift control module vs the infotainment module. But it's at least possible.
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The ability to memorize places where you want lift, so the car raises the front end automatically, requires Nav. How else would it know where the car is and when to raise the front end?
MANUALLY lifting the front end wouldn't actually require Nav, but GM chose not to offer that option.
MANUALLY lifting the front end wouldn't actually require Nav, but GM chose not to offer that option.
Relative to this thread I generally use Waze and with CarPlay it integrates into the audio system so looking at the map isn’t a hard requirement and the Waze maps show on the video head unit and are more than good enough to show turns and of course traffic and PoPo reports. Since it uses the GPS of the phone, cell service is less of an issue. The caveat is that active Waze maps require a data signal (cellular) even if the car has wifi so in remote areas the loaded maps in the C8 will be a good backup.
Last edited by Dan Delena; Dec 19, 2019 at 09:48 AM.