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Old Jan 16, 2020 | 03:31 PM
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Ugh, because the 911S and C8 are what are being cross shopped and more direct competition? They're the "daily driver sports car."

GT4 isn't a car you drive 15k miles a year.
Do you think a GT4 would outperform a 911S? Not saying it will or won't, just wondering your take.
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So you come to a dedicated C8 forum for fans of the car to discuss it and end up shocked and disgusted that you found fans of the car????
No, I'm disgusted that on the above forums there are positive and well thought out C8 threads, but if you come here and don't agree 100% on a topic with a car that nobody owns, you get attacked. How is this a hard concept to grasp????
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No, I'm disgusted that on the above forums there are positive and well thought out C8 threads, but if you come here and don't agree 100% on a topic with a car that nobody owns, you get attacked. How is this a hard concept to grasp????
It's called passion. How is that a hard concept to grasp????
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Originally Posted by Phil1098
So you come to a dedicated C8 forum for fans of the car to discuss it and end up shocked and disgusted that you found fans of the car????
It's like going to M&T Stadium and finding 70,000 people fanatically rooting for the Ravens and booing the opposition. I love the 911, but I also love the C7, especially the Z06. OTOH there are a lot of other cars that I don't like, but I don't feel it's necessary for me to go on their forums and bash them.
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Do you think a GT4 would outperform a 911S? Not saying it will or won't, just wondering your take.
On a road course, I'd venture to say yes. Not sure. I know I'd rather drive it than a 911S on the track.

7:28 with that little power is very very fast.

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Old Jan 16, 2020 | 03:40 PM
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It's like going to M&T Stadium and finding 70,000 people fanatically rooting for the Ravens and booing the opposition. I love the 911, but I also love the C7, especially the Z06. OTOH there are a lot of other cars that I don't like, but I don't feel it's necessary for me to go on their forums and bash them.
I've owned Porsches and love them too, I'm just never surprised to find hard core Corvette fans on a Corvette forum.
Old Jan 16, 2020 | 03:40 PM
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Ugh, because the 911S and C8 are what are being cross shopped and more direct competition? They're the "daily driver sports car."

GT4 isn't a car you drive 15k miles a year.
You do realize the 718 platform is the lowest platform Porsche has. Its TECHNICALLY not of the same calibre of the 911 series. Against a C8 isn't a competition anywhere on street or track. You can daily GT4s. There is nothing special, other than Its true ME placement. The C8 wipes that car from memory, like it does to a whole lot of cars. I still am bewildered that people think the C8 is some normal offer of a sports car. Its far from any previous offer from anyone except the original NSX. Its about to be tested against the world of cars, and I predict a total slaughter to the point it will start making other cars look like complete and utter ripoffs.
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You do realize the 718 platform is the lowest platform Porsche has. Its TECHNICALLY not of the same calibre of the 911 series. Against a C8 isn't a competition anywhere on street or track. You can daily GT4s. There is nothing special, other than Its true ME placement. The C8 wipes that car from memory, like it does to a whole lot of cars. I still am bewildered that people think the C8 is some normal offer of a sports car. Its far from any previous offer from anyone except the original NSX. Its about to be tested against the world of cars, and I predict a total slaughter to the point it will start making other cars look like complete and utter ripoffs.
Maybe, maybe not.

And you can daily drive anything. I daily drove a motorcycle. But the GT4 isn't a daily driver like a C8.
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Old Jan 16, 2020 | 03:47 PM
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The illustration that a broad and completely different group of individuals that frequent those forums are of a much higher class than the nut hugging, poo nugget klingons found here was not plainly evident? I've never browsed a worse sub forum than C8 here on Corevetteforum. We're not laughing with you, we're laughing AT you. You can't even hold a logical discussion here without being attacked should you not agree 100% with thy holy C8. I'm looking forward to the day these are actually built and in driveways. The "my (insert first year issue) broke" threads won't offer any help to the owner and round and round we go lol.
And yet you feel compelled to post here. I'm surprised that a person with such refined taste and class as you, would stoop to posting on such a plebeian forum.
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If you placed bets against the C8 platform then you lost big time. The car isn't winning numerous awards because GM is buying them. That happens in Europe all the time. This is still funny people are unable to actually see WHAT THE C8 actually is. Why would ANYONE be interested in GT4s or Carrera S or the new M3. You will be purchasing far less for more than a Z51 package.
Old Jan 16, 2020 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NFARVW
The illustration that a broad and completely different group of individuals that frequent those forums are of a much higher class than the nut hugging, poo nugget klingons found here was not plainly evident? I've never browsed a worse sub forum than C8 here on Corevetteforum. We're not laughing with you, we're laughing AT you. You can't even hold a logical discussion here without being attacked should you not agree 100% with thy holy C8. I'm looking forward to the day these are actually built and in driveways. The "my (insert first year issue) broke" threads won't offer any help to the owner and round and round we go lol.
You're really proving that aren't you?

Why even bother engaging at all? Just go back to those forums or find a better one lol
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You do realize the 718 platform is the lowest platform Porsche has. Its TECHNICALLY not of the same calibre of the 911 series. Against a C8 isn't a competition anywhere on street or track. You can daily GT4s. There is nothing special, other than Its true ME placement. The C8 wipes that car from memory, like it does to a whole lot of cars. I still am bewildered that people think the C8 is some normal offer of a sports car. Its far from any previous offer from anyone except the original NSX. Its about to be tested against the world of cars, and I predict a total slaughter to the point it will start making other cars look like complete and utter ripoffs.
Old Jan 16, 2020 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by village idiot
Maybe, maybe not.

And you can daily drive anything. I daily drove a motorcycle. But the GT4 isn't a daily driver like a C8.
Just wondering why you feel that way. My brother owns a GT4 which I've driven on numerous occasions and it provides a comfortable ride, and comfortably accommodates two. The only concern I had with the GT4 was its low ground clearance. So getting over a speed bump without scraping the bottom the bumper presents a challenge.
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Just wondering why you feel that way. My brother owns a GT4 which I've driven on numerous occasions and it provides a comfortable ride, and comfortably accommodates two. The only concern I had with the GT4 was its low ground clearance. So getting over a speed bump without scraping the bottom the bumper presents a challenge.
So after driving a GT4, is it great, or just another sports car?
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I knew this Thread would turn into a Porsche vs Corvette Thread... How does that always happen... LOL

Anyways on to the Topic:
I crossed shopped a Porsche, Looking at a Turbo 4s & a GT3 near me. While in Person the Fronts looked a little less VW Bug, it was still there. I just cannot move past it.
I would not call my self a "Nut Hugger" LOL
I currently own a 68 & 64 Corvette. Officially Placed more order for my C8 about 2 Weeks ago.
I had a C5 & a C7 which I sold both recently.
I also have a Ferrari F355 Spider (Gated Manual) & Ferrari F430 Spider (F1)

I loved my C7 so I am pretty sure I am going to Love my C8 & I know I love the Looks.
If I'm not Tracking like 99.9% of the People here then I see no need for half of what gets argued here. Yet I still bought Z51 & Mag Ride Goodies.
The Most "Cornering" I ever do is for a Quick Thrill, or the one time I had to take my C7 for our Ferrari Club Trip to West Michigan because my 430 was getting the Clutch Replaced and I didn't have the 355 at the time.
The C7 Kept up Quite well with the Ferrari Group, but I felt I was maybe at it's limits. (2014 Coupe non-Z51)

To the Porsche Guys here I would say it always seems to repeat, it ALWAYS ends up being Corvette vs Porsche, not Corvette vs Ferrari, not Corvette vs McLaren... just sayin, there is a Pattern Here that keeps repeating... maybe it's XBox vs PlayStation... Fanboyism...
I do get when the Say "You'd have to Drive or Own" to "Know the Difference" tho I did not Drive a Porsche (Back to the Beetle Headlights...) I can relate to my Ferrari's
My C7 was Faster than my F430 & F355 0-60, yet my 2 Ferrari's Feel Quicker, more Nimble & Better Driving Experience. You Feel One with the Road, maybe the MidEngine will bring this to the C8

Anyway here is my Build: (Because every thread is better with Pics)



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Old Jan 16, 2020 | 04:56 PM
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Just wondering why you feel that way. My brother owns a GT4 which I've driven on numerous occasions and it provides a comfortable ride, and comfortably accommodates two. The only concern I had with the GT4 was its low ground clearance. So getting over a speed bump without scraping the bottom the bumper presents a challenge.
Rough, low, expensive maintenance, sparse, etc.
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So after driving a GT4, is it great, or just another sports car?
The GT4 is an outstanding sports car which excels more on the track than on the street. I drove the GT4 at Watkins Glen and I was able to effortlessly pass cars which had much more HP. The suspension is just that good. You do have to get the RPMs up to experience what the GT4 has to offer, since it just doesn't have much torque. IMO most people would prefer high torque cars like the Corvette for the street since the power is always there. The MT in the GT4 is about as good as it gets. I'd love to see what the GT4 could do with another 50 - 60 HP.

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Rough, low, expensive maintenance, sparse, etc.
I didn't find the GT4's ride to be rough, but I suppose that's subjective. The maintenance on all Porsches is high unless you can find a good indy.
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On a road course, I'd venture to say yes. Not sure. I know I'd rather drive it than a 911S on the track.

7:28 with that little power is very very fast.
Prototypes cant be counted as accurate times. Pobst tested a prototype 918 that was significantly slower at Laguna than the production model. GM could tweak this car to the point it might not even be recognizable as having ANY handling flaws by production time..
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Smart, insightful first post followed by good back and forth discussion. Then, the thread entered a troll feedback loop where the trolls keep feeding off each other. Stupid trolls on both sides. Don't feed the trolls, they're like black holes and gobble up everything in sight. Trolls.



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