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Old Jan 23, 2020 | 06:33 AM
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My C8 convertible is at 1100 and my salesman just changed the order from 'Retail/Stock' to 'Sold' (it had been at 'Retail/Stock' because at the time I placed my deposit a couple months ago GM wasn't yet taking 'Sold' orders on the convertible). Is the ball now in GM's court to progress it to 2000 and beyond or is there something else my dealership needs to do? Just wondering if I need to put any pressure on my salesman or not.
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dealer has to match your order with an allocation...depends where you are on their list
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They told me they have allocation for 15 C8's, 3 of which were convertibles and I was the only convertible they've taken an order on. So, sounds like the dealership is still in control and I have to push them to do something?
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order's activated when your number comes up...simple as that...vert/coupe, makes no difference
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Old Jan 23, 2020 | 08:24 AM
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They told me they have allocation for 15 C8's, 3 of which were convertibles and I was the only convertible they've taken an order on. So, sounds like the dealership is still in control and I have to push them to do something?
There is no separate allocation for convertibles. The mix of convertibles/coupes is entirely up to your dealer. GM has no rules on this. The dealer has to "push" your order to GM. If not you'd sit at 1100 till the cows come home. Each month GM tells your dealership how many orders they have for that month and can place with GM (their consensus). Typically orders are placed with GM in the order that they were placed by the customer at the dealership. Their have been a few shyster dealers reported here on the board that don't follow the usual and customary. You need to contact your dealership and get clarification on their process and exactly where you stand.
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Old Jan 23, 2020 | 08:35 AM
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Thanks for that info. I'm heading over to my dealer right now for a face to face explanation as to what's going on. In as much as my C8 is over a $100K sale for them I would expect a little more cooperation.
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Be aware that your sales person probably has no idea how the allocation/order process works. That is a back office job that sales people don't normally get involved in. With the exception of the sales staff at our forum dealers that are very experienced in this, sales people are just not involved in this. They're there to sell vehicles off the lot or swap with another local dealer. Every GM vehicle goes through this allocation/order process, but very very few are actually ordered for a customer. They are ordered for dealer stock. The Corvette is the outlier. You probably need to talk to the General Manager or the back office inventory manager.
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be aware that your sales person probably has no idea how the allocation/order process works. That is a back office job that sales people don't normally get involved in. With the exception of the sales staff at our forum dealers that are very experienced in this, sales people are just not involved in this. They're there to sell vehicles off the lot or swap with another local dealer. Every gm vehicle goes through this allocation/order process, but very very few are actually ordered for a customer. They are ordered for dealer stock. The corvette is the outlier. You probably need to talk to the general manager or the back office inventory manager.
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I'm heading over to my dealer right now for a face to face explanation as to what's going on.
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Had a long conversation and left still not being 100% convinced as to what was going on. Didn't want to push too hard and make an enemy out of someone I need to be an ally. Thought about going to the General Sales Mgr., but, once again didn't want to **** him off by going over his head. He said the Concierge people are several days behind what's really the current status of things and I should be patient. Once again confirmed that they have an allotment of 15 C8's and I was number 6 of 7 orders. Told me several other dealerships are trying to get him to give them some of his allotments but he is hanging on to them. He said if I'm lucky I should get delivery sometime in June but possibly July. Said he keep me informed.
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He said the Concierge is several days behind what's really the current status of things & I should be patient. He said several other dealers are trying to get him to give them some of his allotment.
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If they have 15 total, and you are #6, it is highly likely that they have not yet gotten enough allocations to be able to assign you to an allocation. My guess is that they have probably been able to get only 2 or 3 orders accepted by GM (the assigned an allocation to the order and the order has moved to 2000 or beyond) up to this point.
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He did mention that an ordered coupe had a TPW.

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If they have 15 total, and you are #6, it is highly likely that they have not yet gotten enough allocations to be able to assign you to an allocation.
I guess I'm not clear on what you're saying. The dealership HAS received 15 allocations and have only sold 7 C8's of which I am number 6 on the list sold. If they have more allocations then vehicles sold, shouldn't they be able to assign me one?
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I guess I'm not clear on what you're saying. The dealership HAS received 15 allocations and have only sold 7 C8's of which I am number 6 on the list sold. If they have more allocations then vehicles sold, shouldn't they be able to assign me one?
The dealer has 15 allocations for the year. It's not up to the dealership to submit orders to GM at will. GM tells them every month how many units they can place. With only 15 allocations GM might not have given them any to place yet. This has happened to many dealers with small allocations. Again, your dealership will give you the specifics.

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The dealer has 15 allocations for the year. It's not up to the dealership to submit orders to GM at will. GM tells them every month how many units they can place. With only 15 allocations GM might not have given them any to place yet. This has happened to many dealers with small allocations. Again, your dealership will give you the specifics.
NOW I understand...thanks! I wonder why my salesman didn't explain this to me. I guess that would make sense, as if there are 40,000 allocations out there GM doesn't want 40,000 orders turned in at once. That must be what Concierge meant when they said something about 'Thursday's' are when the dealer can submit orders (if they have been allowed to draw off their allocation). I just hope they're not SO SMALL that my order doesn't get placed for months!

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because your salesman is not the brightest. I wouldn't worry if I were you. If they received 15 allocations yours should be accepted by the end of February I would think. Be patient grasshopper.
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I would say that your salesman is deliberately misleading you so that you don't go elsewhere. Based on the number of orders that the big dealers have been able to get accepted compared to their total allocations, your dealer is probably doing good to get 1 order per cycle. Like I said, maybe that have gotten 2 or 3 accepted so far. Best case, another 2 months before they get their 6th and probably 3 months. March or April.
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It was driving me nuts so I caved and called the General Sales Mgr. He explained to me how the system works and it was just like you guys said, (a PULL system from GM not a PUSH system by the dealership). He said at this point they have not gotten any PULLS and hopefully with February's. He said he checks the 'system' each month because sometimes another dealership that may be getting a 'PULL' cannot fulfill it do to possible constraints on orders they may have in hand, (and customers might not be willing to change their order to get it), so other dealerships can request these spots. Being a smaller dealership with a minimal allotment, it may be a couple months before my order is accepted. At least now I can relax, not worried that my order is sitting in a 'dead letter box' being ignored by the dealership. I appreciate all the feedback from you guys helping me understand how this works. They say 'patience is a virtue' but this is really a tough one for sure!
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