Oh crap
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Le Mans Master
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From: Knoxville Tn
Oh crap
This morning I got up thinking that my final order may not include the Z51 package, so I added the LT3 dipped interior, and thought I might slap spend $1000 on getting the car ceramic coated (my C-5 is coated and it's the best $$ I've spent) I also kinda lie the look with out the rear spoiler. Then I noticed that by the time I added the upgraded brakes, and NPP exhaust, I may as well spend the couple of thousand extra. So then I added the mag ride.......Roughly $10,000 difference for the two cars,,,,oh crap. It's likely the last Vette I'll buy (new) so I'll probably go for it, hell it's only $$, and my heirs should spend it before the grass grows over my grave.....
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Feb 18, 2020, 11:56 PM
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jan 2019
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-Ability to buy MSRC
-Better cooling
-Better brakes
-NPP standard, adds 5HP
-Aero
-Suspension tuning
-eLSD
-Shorter gearing, makes acceleration faster
The better question is why wouldn't you want Z51?
The wing is no big deal. There are aftermarket options and there will be non-Z51 owners that are more than happy to trade you their un-drilled bumper for your drilled bumper and wing.
-Better cooling
-Better brakes
-NPP standard, adds 5HP
-Aero
-Suspension tuning
-eLSD
-Shorter gearing, makes acceleration faster
The better question is why wouldn't you want Z51?
The wing is no big deal. There are aftermarket options and there will be non-Z51 owners that are more than happy to trade you their un-drilled bumper for your drilled bumper and wing.
Drifting
Joined: Jun 2019
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From: Port Charlotte,Fl
I know what you mean..I'm just buying a 1LT car and I know that when you start adding options the price really climbs fast!...I've added a few...then taken a few off...but now I think I'm where I want to be...No more changes...just build my car..Do you have a TPW for your 3LT yet?...Good Luck.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Feb 2016
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From: Edmond Oklahoma
No Z51?
That means it will look better with no spoiler on it. Perhaps ride better? Save money too?
I'd say you hit the trifecta. I don't know why anyone wants the Z51. Sounds like a stroke of good luck.
That means it will look better with no spoiler on it. Perhaps ride better? Save money too?
I'd say you hit the trifecta. I don't know why anyone wants the Z51. Sounds like a stroke of good luck.
Instructor
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I chose it because of the adjustable suspension and bigger brakes. Really hate that I can't do a spoiler delete...
Race Director
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From: Central Illinois
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 2,151
Likes: 2,020
-Ability to buy MSRC
-Better cooling
-Better brakes
-NPP standard, adds 5HP
-Aero
-Suspension tuning
-eLSD
-Shorter gearing, makes acceleration faster
The better question is why wouldn't you want Z51?
The wing is no big deal. There are aftermarket options and there will be non-Z51 owners that are more than happy to trade you their un-drilled bumper for your drilled bumper and wing.
-Better cooling
-Better brakes
-NPP standard, adds 5HP
-Aero
-Suspension tuning
-eLSD
-Shorter gearing, makes acceleration faster
The better question is why wouldn't you want Z51?
The wing is no big deal. There are aftermarket options and there will be non-Z51 owners that are more than happy to trade you their un-drilled bumper for your drilled bumper and wing.
Pro
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 602
Likes: 387
From: Tampa
-Ability to buy MSRC
-Better cooling
-Better brakes
-NPP standard, adds 5HP
-Aero
-Suspension tuning
-eLSD
-Shorter gearing, makes acceleration faster
The better question is why wouldn't you want Z51?
The wing is no big deal. There are aftermarket options and there will be non-Z51 owners that are more than happy to trade you their un-drilled bumper for your drilled bumper and wing.
-Better cooling
-Better brakes
-NPP standard, adds 5HP
-Aero
-Suspension tuning
-eLSD
-Shorter gearing, makes acceleration faster
The better question is why wouldn't you want Z51?
The wing is no big deal. There are aftermarket options and there will be non-Z51 owners that are more than happy to trade you their un-drilled bumper for your drilled bumper and wing.
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 9,488
Likes: 1,743
From: Knoxville Tn
-Ability to buy MSRC
-Better cooling
-Better brakes
-NPP standard, adds 5HP
-Aero
-Suspension tuning
-eLSD
-Shorter gearing, makes acceleration faster
The better question is why wouldn't you want Z51?
The wing is no big deal. There are aftermarket options and there will be non-Z51 owners that are more than happy to trade you their un-drilled bumper for your drilled bumper and wing.
-Better cooling
-Better brakes
-NPP standard, adds 5HP
-Aero
-Suspension tuning
-eLSD
-Shorter gearing, makes acceleration faster
The better question is why wouldn't you want Z51?
The wing is no big deal. There are aftermarket options and there will be non-Z51 owners that are more than happy to trade you their un-drilled bumper for your drilled bumper and wing.
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Le Mans Master
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 5,363
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From: New England
-Ability to buy MSRC
-Better cooling
-Better brakes
-NPP standard, adds 5HP
-Aero
-Suspension tuning
-eLSD
-Shorter gearing, makes acceleration faster
The better question is why wouldn't you want Z51?
The wing is no big deal. There are aftermarket options and there will be non-Z51 owners that are more than happy to trade you their un-drilled bumper for your drilled bumper and wing.
-Better cooling
-Better brakes
-NPP standard, adds 5HP
-Aero
-Suspension tuning
-eLSD
-Shorter gearing, makes acceleration faster
The better question is why wouldn't you want Z51?
The wing is no big deal. There are aftermarket options and there will be non-Z51 owners that are more than happy to trade you their un-drilled bumper for your drilled bumper and wing.
Last edited by thill444; Feb 19, 2020 at 08:11 AM.
Le Mans Master
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From: West Burbs of Chicago IL
..it’s faster, and more capable (marginally so), and cooler looking but I realize that’s purely eye of the beholder. To each their own.
Safety Car
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If you watch the video about C8 launch control at Spring mountain, you can clearly hear the instructor saying that launch control is active in any of the PTM modes... (performance traction management) Well PTM is only available with the FE4 mag ride suspension, and you can only get FE4 with the Z51 package....
Which really does have me wondering of launch control is available without Z51 and FE4?
Which really does have me wondering of launch control is available without Z51 and FE4?
Team Owner
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Three observations here:
1) You can't get MSRC without Z51 in the first MY C8. If it follows C7 evolution it will be added as an option on base later.
2) You have to have MSRC to have PTM.
3) As with the C7 without MSRC/PTM, there should be a "Competition" setting, which provides a different form of launch control.
1) You can't get MSRC without Z51 in the first MY C8. If it follows C7 evolution it will be added as an option on base later.
2) You have to have MSRC to have PTM.
3) As with the C7 without MSRC/PTM, there should be a "Competition" setting, which provides a different form of launch control.
Team Owner
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If you're truly going to cruise around in the car to cars & coffee and take road trips you don't need the Z51. It's a must-have for me personally, but if you never intend to track the car and don't live in an area where you can go "canyon running" at high speeds you just don't need it.
If it's your last new car then load it up
If it's your last new car then load it up
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Racer
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From: El Dorado Hills, CA
That's the spirit. I take it you haven't progressed to Status Code 2500. Somewhere around there, I believe it becomes somewhat problematic to make changes.
Ordering the MAG RIDE forces you to also order the Z51 package. Sounds like you've got a nice package plan.
Ordering the MAG RIDE forces you to also order the Z51 package. Sounds like you've got a nice package plan.
Pro
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From: Hutto, TX
When the grand sport comes out it will make the Z51 obsolete just like it did for the C7... I'll keep my non z51 and upgrade to the grand sport later down the line when its heavily discounted. Z51 vs non z51 is .1 seconds quicker 0-60 and same quarter mile time... How does that justify $5k? Or $6900 with mag ride? It doesn't UNLESS YOU TRACK THE CAR.
P.S. ToolHoarder understands this why can't anyone else?
P.S. ToolHoarder understands this why can't anyone else?
Last edited by brAnd7onX; Feb 19, 2020 at 02:30 PM.
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What upgraded brakes? The only brake upgrade is with the Z51 package. Unless you mean painted calipers, but those cost extra whether you get Z51 or not.
Race Director
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If you watch the video about C8 launch control at Spring mountain, you can clearly hear the instructor saying that launch control is active in any of the PTM modes... (performance traction management) Well PTM is only available with the FE4 mag ride suspension, and you can only get FE4 with the Z51 package....
Which really does have me wondering of launch control is available without Z51 and FE4?
Which really does have me wondering of launch control is available without Z51 and FE4?
