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Like many others, I'm a bit concerned about the glare issue. Especially since GM is the author of it. So maybe it is bad maybe not so bad. No real life miles for anyone to tell. Car reviewers don't seem to mention it, but they might be in don't bite the hand (GM) that feeds you mode. So, would tinting with a ceramic heat blocker at 5% solve or perhaps even solve this dilemma? Factory glass 20% plus 5% = 25% should be legal most places.
Wife loves the Natural Dipped and does not love the black/tan combo alternative. So if we pass on tan, I guess we fade to black. Torch Red so it will be fine, but a compromise we both hate to make.
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Polarized sunglasses are a functional and inexpensive assist.
That’s what I did with our Cadillac. I got brown tint polarized sunglasses and the tint is gone. The glare is only there in high sunlight. It is not a problem at night or lower light conditions.
I'd wait to see if it is even a problem for you. My C7 had the full Kalahari dash and I didn't even notice the reflection (it isn't really glare) until I saw the discussions on the forum, but I normally wear sunglasses when driving in sunlight. I did some testing without sunglasses and found the reflections from the features on the black surfaces just about as distracting as the Kalahari surfaces.
My sunglasses (polarized and not) didn't have a problem with the HUD but I did have to increase the brightness sometimes. Most sunglasses are "standardized" on which direction they are polarized in, hopefully the C8 screens aren't "polarized" or are in the same direction.
I'd wait to see if it is even a problem for you. My C7 had the full Kalahari dash and I didn't even notice the reflection (it isn't really glare) until I saw the discussions on the forum, but I normally wear sunglasses when driving in sunlight. I did some testing without sunglasses and found the reflections from the features on the black surfaces just about as distracting as the Kalahari surfaces.
My sunglasses (polarized and not) didn't have a problem with the HUD but I did have to increase the brightness sometimes. Most sunglasses are "standardized" on which direction they are polarized in, hopefully the C8 screens aren't "polarized" or are in the same direction.
Good advice to be patient. When ordering an expensive for us car, I'd hate to make a poor decision day one. I drove our C7 (tutone red with mostly black dash) today paying particular attention to dash glare. Surprisingly, I noticed a fair amount I'd never paid attention to before. Checked with prescription polarized sunglasses and Oakley polarized. Both made a substantial difference than the naked eye. So I'm going to listen to my wife and quit sweating it. It would be so much better to not have 8 months from order to delivery. Get the keys and go would be way better. But so it goes.
I had a 2014 with Kalahari interior which is very much like the Natural Dipped of the C8. I never had a glare problem. Stuff like this is Forum fake news. Say it long enough until people start to believe it.
I had a 2014 with Kalahari interior which is very much like the Natural Dipped of the C8. I never had a glare problem. Stuff like this is Forum fake news. Say it long enough until people start to believe it.
Polarized glasses may greatly reduce the visibility of the HUD.
I had to increase the brightness on my C7 but the HUD was still plenty readable with polarized sunglasses.
The biggest problem I found with polarized sunglasses is that some older smart phones were unreadable in one orientation and had to be turned 90 degrees. This wasn't a problem with the C7 displays.
Polarized glasses may greatly reduce the visibility of the HUD.
Good polarized glasses make the HUD virtually invisible, even on the brightest setting. I have it in my Yukon and my Maui Jim’s render the HUD useless.
Good polarized glasses make the HUD virtually invisible, even on the brightest setting. I have it in my Yukon and my Maui Jim’s render the HUD useless.
It seems to depend on the brand. My Serengeti Drivers made the display a little dimmer but still readable.
If you tilt your head (or rotate the glasses) and the display gets brighter or dimmer then it is due to the direction of the polarization.
I had a 2014 with Kalahari interior which is very much like the Natural Dipped of the C8. I never had a glare problem. Stuff like this is Forum fake news. Say it long enough until people start to believe it.
I think It depends on the car and angles with windshield and dash. It is certainly not the fake news you claim it to be.
All I can tell you is, Ive been doing some testing to see if it possible to reduce glare completely. My tests, to me at least, was to try worst possible case I could think of, using Standard White paper with Black wording , an Slick finish White paper, Black wording, laying on a Black dash.
I do not have a pair of Polarized Clear Lens glasses, nor do I have a car with a HUD to test with.
All the glasses I've used have been Polarized. All of them are not equal. One highly advertised pair, that claimed to Reduce Windshield glare, were useless, could not even prevent the shine from the slick black plastic windshield defogger vent from reflecting on windshield.
The other two highly advertised Polarized Glasses, both did good enough for me to be able to ignore what glare was still their. With the white paper, even in cloudy conditions, some glare was there, any time of day, regardless of wither you were driving into the sun or not.
Like I said above, I have no way of testing those sun glasses to see if a HUD's display will be visible.
I also have a couple of sets of night driving glasses that, one set I really like, that I've used when it's clouded/rainy in daytime that I love the effect it has on glare, no testing with those, at this time.
I have not tested with white paper on dash at night to see if headlight glare will be a problem with interior at night. If it is with Natural Ddipped, then there's a real problem, safety wise.
Maybe someone that has a car with Heads Up Display, could do some testing, to see if the HUD is readable, with a couple of brands of Polarized, sunglasses, or clear everyday Bifocal ones. The best of the glasses I've tried, do look out of place on old people, one more so than the other one,,,,LOL
For what it's worth, even a C6 with a Black dash, had it reflect on windshield. One of the of the U-Tubers at Carlisle had that happen on his video showing him driving into Show....LOL All it takes is for dash to have a sheen to it.
Notice the effects on Windshield were the HUD is, how there is no glare on windshield there. Notice the difference in the ability to see the Lady in picture were the HUD display, eliminates windshield glare from Natural Dip on dash, an the same where the Dash is Black?
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Reason: To add picture of Natural Dipped for those that call it Fake News.
All I can tell you is, Ive been doing some testing to see if it possible to reduce glare completely. My tests, to me at least, was to try worst possible case I could think of, using Standard White paper with Black wording , an Slick finish White paper, Black wording, laying on a Black dash.
I do not have a pair of Polarized Clear Lens glasses, nor do I have a car with a HUD to test with.
All the glasses I've used have been Polarized. All of them are not equal. One highly advertised pair, that claimed to Reduce Windshield glare, were useless, could not even prevent the shine from the slick black plastic windshield defogger vent from reflecting on windshield.
The other two highly advertised Polarized Glasses, both did good enough for me to be able to ignore what glare was still their. With the white paper, even in cloudy conditions, some glare was there, any time of day, regardless of wither you were driving into the sun or not.
Like I said above, I have no way of testing those sun glasses to see if a HUD's display will be visible.
I also have a couple of sets of night driving glasses that, one set I really like, that I've used when it's clouded/rainy in daytime that I love the effect it has on glare, no testing with those, at this time.
I have not tested with white paper on dash at night to see if headlight glare will be a problem with interior at night. If it is with Natural Ddipped, then there's a real problem, safety wise.
Maybe someone that has a car with Heads Up Display, could do some testing, to see if the HUD is readable, with a couple of brands of Polarized, sunglasses, or clear everyday Bifocal ones. The best of the glasses I've tried, do look out of place on old people, one more so than the other one,,,,LOL
For what it's worth, even a C6 with a Black dash, had it reflect on windshield. One of the of the U-Tubers at Carlisle had that happen on his video showing him driving into Show....LOL All it takes is for dash to have a sheen to it.
Notice the effects on Windshield were the HUD is, how there is no glare on windshield there. Notice the difference in the ability to see the Lady in picture were the HUD display, eliminates windshield glare from Natural Dip on dash, an the same where the Dash is Black?
I think the test would need to be done with a C8 HUD. Some types of displays are polarized and some aren't. If I rotate my Serengeti Drivers while looking at my computer LCD, ASUS tablet, or LG G2 screens through my Serengeti Drivers the displays go dark in landscape mode. However, there is no difference with my Samsung Galaxy S7 screen. I didn't do this test with my C7 since I could see the displays and HUD OK with my Serengeti Drivers on.
The reflective coating used for the HUD also makes a difference. I know 3M makes a film just for HUDs that allows the use of polarized sunglasses.
Hopefully the C8 team thought about this issue.
Natural Dipped reflection solution
