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Old Mar 9, 2020 | 05:50 PM
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Sure, no one here can or will speak authoritatively about the current situation at the BG plant, but anyone paying attention to the news can draw rather obvious conclusions. As I said, if it hasn't happened yet, it will at some point soon. Supply chains all over the world are being interrupted, and that is documented fact.

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Old Mar 9, 2020 | 06:12 PM
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(270) 745-8019. This is number of the assembly plant. Give them a call and maybe you can find out what’s up.
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Old Mar 9, 2020 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by john91498
I'm starting to think the C8 is cursed...
NCD will get "coronary" seeing this!

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Sure, no one here can or will speak authoritatively about the current situation at the BG plant, but anyone paying attention to the news can draw rather obvious conclusions. As I said, if it hasn't happened yet, it will at some point soon. Supply chains all over the world are being interrupted, and that is documented fact.
Exactly!

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Old Mar 9, 2020 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SlickRick7
I didn’t get into specifics with him. Not too sure what is going on but I’m still sitting at 1100, small dealer so I’m still hoping I get my hands on a MY2020
Maybe you should’ve went into specifics with him before posting into a forum of anxiously awaiting people with C8 orders. Especially if you’re saying it’s a close family friend...

That’s messed up.
It’s truly amazing how people are so quick to spread false info just to seek the attention.
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Old Mar 9, 2020 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxie2U
Makes zero sense they would furlough the 2nd shift they just started up given the fact they have more orders than they can fill. And they would not furlough because of a parking space issue given truck carriers are loading up cars now faster than they can produce more.

IMO the only things that make sense is either the OP doesn’t have the correct intel, BG just discovered a major production flaw or they encountered a major unexpected supply chain problem.
Exactly. ^^^^
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Old Mar 9, 2020 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by blackmagicZ
(270) 745-8019. This is number of the assembly plant. Give them a call and maybe you can find out what’s up.
Are you sure that it is not BR549 ?
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Old Mar 9, 2020 | 07:44 PM
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Why would I care to get attention or spread false information on a forum of a couple thousand people? I am just giving information I got. You guys can believe me or not, it does not hurt me. But the 2nd shift is currently laid off. You can take it to the bank.
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Old Mar 9, 2020 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PCMIII
Since everything in manufacturing is now "just-in-time" delivery of parts (no stockpiling) any disruption of the parts flow will slow or stop production. "Just-in-time" parts flow has an obvious flaw, but manufacturers don't care about making production quotas like they used to back in the day.
I used to work for a medical instruments plant that converted to 'just-in-time' (actually that is an out dated term. It's now called 'Lean Manufacturing'. Exact same thing except that slapping a new name on it allows all the "experts" to sell new 'how to' books spouting the same old crap) manufacturing. The one thing they never tell you is that once instituted you no longer have any control over your own business. The suppliers now run your show. When our inventory finally went down to nil the first supplier issue shut down the production line for a couple of days. Next time it was a few more. One time it was shut down for 3 weeks costing the company about 30M in lost sales not to mention lost labor costs. They eventually trickled back to the old way but by then the parent company already decided to close the plant due to losses.
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Old Mar 9, 2020 | 08:14 PM
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Yeah well speaking of just in time I saw it bite GM a time or two.
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Yeah well speaking of just in time I saw it bite GM a time it two.
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I had a friend, who was a president of a big Japanese plastics division who told me the only one who does Lean Manufacturing (just-in-time) well is Toyoda only because they OWN all their suppliers.
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Old Mar 9, 2020 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JF in MI
I had a friend, who was a president of a big Japanese plastics division who told me the only one who does Lean Manufacturing (just-in-time) well is Toyoda only because they OWN all their suppliers.
GM had an opportunity to learn lean from Toyota with NUMMI and GM blew them off. Worked great at NUMMI but GM utterly failed to integrate the lessons learned across their other factories. Toyota learned how to work with American autoworkers and clearly ended up with the better end of that opportunity.
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Old Mar 9, 2020 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Livfreely
My bet is on supplier issues. I am currently at a factory, and we are having to reschedule units due to supplier issues. The ports have a lot of backlog due to the virus. We are even having to check our suppliers suppliers for their parts availability.

You would be surprised on how much China feeds the machine!
China played us to perfection.
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Old Mar 9, 2020 | 10:10 PM
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Good to see so many automobile experts offering up their expertise to help GM build a better vehicle.
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Don't the wheels come from Asia? This could be a real show stopper.
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Old Mar 9, 2020 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by spireland
GM had an opportunity to learn lean from Toyota with NUMMI and GM blew them off. Worked great at NUMMI but GM utterly failed to integrate the lessons learned across their other factories. Toyota learned how to work with American autoworkers and clearly ended up with the better end of that opportunity.
No 2 month strike at Toyota factories in the U.S. either. The GM strike really messed up the C8 production which is now going to be less than half what they wanted for 2020. GM should have avoided that strike but they wanted to play hardball.
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Old Mar 9, 2020 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Yammyhaha
Are you sure that it is not BR549 ?


Here ya go, the phone number.

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Old Mar 9, 2020 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PCMIII
Since everything in manufacturing is now "just-in-time" delivery of parts (no stockpiling) any disruption of the parts flow will slow or stop production. "Just-in-time" parts flow has an obvious flaw, but manufacturers don't care about making production quotas like they used to back in the day.
This response is extremely underrated. JIT is the way most "Lean" manufacturing plants operate. IF this is true, I guarantee it's due to supplier issues. There are RM shortages everywhere as well as manufacturing sites simply sending employees home for safety reasons. It's possible GM and or a major supplier is doing this.

Originally Posted by rmorin1249
Don't the wheels come from Asia? This could be a real show stopper.
I'd take mine with no wheels and a credit, lol. The options are just terrible.

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Originally Posted by EViL427
I'm sure there are more than a few components manufactured overseas. Lots of supply chains disrupted right now.
Does GM publish what percentage of the parts they use come from China? With a significant portion of China still in lockdown, these kinds of outcomes are unavoidable, hope I'm wrong but suspect we'll be seeing more of this as the year progresses.
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Old Mar 10, 2020 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by kenbefound
Does GM publish what percentage of the parts they use come from China? With a significant portion of China still in lockdown, these kinds of outcomes are unavoidable, hope I'm wrong but suspect we'll be seeing more of this as the year progresses.
Shipping takes time once manufacturing starts up. Of course, once that end of the supply chain is opened, the delivery/assembly on our side might be just shutting down. A worse case scenario could mean the April consensus allocations are smaller or even none. Let’s hope not. Regardless, if history is any teacher, we won’t be told, it will have to be ferreted out just like this development.
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Originally Posted by jagamajajaran
I'm pretty sure they'll just be off for this coming week and the main issue is getting cars shipped so they have room for the ones they are building.
Everybody, listen to Jeremy. The only one posting in this thread that has any insight on the situation at the factory,



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