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Old Mar 16, 2020 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ApexZ
i'm not sure why you think gm would go to any length to provide the capability. there are trade-offs for fancy electronics and transmissions.
Yeah...why would they encourage abusive behavior?.....

The Youtoobers figured out the correct brake application following a clutch dump for toasting tires. Why you would want to do that I dunno...

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Old Mar 16, 2020 | 04:49 PM
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Hi y'all. So, when I read the original post I thought it was really funny. My take was that it was written to make light of something that our vettes - in many generations - have had an issue with (traction off the line) and Zoravette was having a little fun because it was pretty much fixed with the ME.

My next thought was that I wondered how many posts would get real serious about the 'issue'. I was not disappointed.
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Old Mar 16, 2020 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael A
This is great news! That means I can use all of the acceleration without creating a pubescent commotion that will get me a ticket.
it’s possible to get a ticket taking off quickly at A green light. Don’t need to do a burnout.
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Old Mar 16, 2020 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Secret237
Isn't it just a matter of turning the Traction Control off ??
And turning on your LineLoc
I have never used a TC on the track.
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Old Mar 16, 2020 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by thrilled
it’s possible to get a ticket taking off quickly at A green light. Don’t need to do a burnout.
Yep, recall back in the day, even moderate tire spinning from a light got you a carless driving ticket. Make one like some think is "cool" it was a reckless driving ticket!

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Old Mar 16, 2020 | 06:30 PM
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Correction. YOU cannot do a burnout. Cleetus can do it. Why can't you?
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Old Mar 16, 2020 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryU
Yep, recall back in the day, even moderate tire spinning from a light got you a carless driving ticket. Make one like some think is "cool" it was a reckless driving ticket!
In British Columbia they call it an "Unnecessary Noise Violation" , that's what the policeman wrote on the ticket he gave me anyway.
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Old Jun 5, 2020 | 08:34 AM
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Default Ok! Why would GM want to "fix" a car to purposefully be inefficient?!

A burnout is when your car can't put the energy from the fuel into forward movement. That is, it's completely anti-performance.

It's like complaining that GM doesn have a anchor option.

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Why did GM not put in an anchor option so we can toss out the anchor and not go forward? Why? We need to be able to have our car not perform well. Also, where is the Grandma button? Did they not include that also. You know, that button you press that limits the car to 50 MPH. Where is it? And what about the maximum slip torque converter that allows most of the energy to be converted into heated hydraulic fluid inside the converter. Where that? Come on GM, fix these horrible problems. Sooo funny.

Wheel spin is what you engineer to "avoid" in a performance car. You want the energy going into forward movement, not energy robbing wheel spin.

You want stickier tires for drag?
Go buy a set of drag slicks.

But recall, the veryrvery you pre-heat up the tires on the strip is to ...AVOID... spin. You heat your tires to NO have spin so you get maximum performance. If you don't have tire spin in the first place, because you could match power and grip because if a rear increase in weight, YOU DON'T NEED TO HEAT A TIRE TO AVOID TIRE SPIN!

But yes, I guess there are those who want lower performance so they can hear the screeching noise. For those people GM made the front engine Vette. Go buy one instead if a C8. The C7 is wonderful. And if you want even more noise Lingenfelter will give you that in a 750 HP 700 FtLbs upgrade. Decatur Indiana.

Me. I'll keep the C8 and enjoy no spin.





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Old Jun 5, 2020 | 08:37 AM
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Default Brake dust on the C8 is worse that the C7.

Originally Posted by gthal
If someone really wants to simply destroy a set of tires to impress people, they can do the research to figure out how I don't expect this is high on GM's priority list as it serves no real purpose in the car, defeats the effort for more traction to actually go faster and not something the vast majority of owners would ever care to do.

If there is something to fix, it is the wonky e-brake issue where you reportedly can't use track pads without running the risk of confusing the electronics/sensors... that, IMO, is a real fail that potentially impacts everyone going to the track.
I find that the Z51 break dust is worse on the C8.
609 miles and you can't see past the dust coating on my wheels.

Time for a ceramic pad flip.
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Old Jun 5, 2020 | 09:26 AM
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^^^
Yep, as I did when my 2017 Grand Sport arrived, changed pads day one so I didn't have to clean the rotors as I did waiting ~6 months to do the same with my 2014 Z51.

I'll have low dust pads on hand when it gets to the house. However like my early 2014 Z51, it has very strong double sided tape holding the front pads to the pistons. Not easy getting the pads out if you don't remove the calipers. My intent is not to remove them. Just need to be prepared:

Note: Pic left from my 2014 Z51 install. Also need a special socket to remove the C8 center pin:

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Old Jun 5, 2020 | 09:32 AM
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I've seen this explanation in several articles. "Put the car in drive, stand on the brake, pull both steering wheel paddles to temporarily open the clutches, floor the throttle, and release the paddles when you're ready to go. The computer will do a carefully controlled clutch dump and will let the tires spin rather than trying to get the perfect launch. When you're done, just lift off the throttle."

Does this not work?
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Old Feb 27, 2021 | 07:46 AM
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Sounds to me like an issue with the TCM. This thing should do a burnout if it will not it’s in the tune. My daily driver is a Cadillac ATS 2.0 turbo. I cranked it up bigger turbo methanol injection, E85 Conversion and it wouldn’t do a burnout either. Had to buy an unlocked TCM and tune it with HP tuners. Even with the traction control and stability control off the car wouldn’t build more than 8lbs of boost brake torquing the car. Not great for the track...... When it would detect wheel spin the dash would flash traction control OFF yet it would cut power. There are tables that’s have newton meter values for the maximum amount of torque in the TCM. I raised mine to 1000 now I can launch with 20lbs of boost and if I want to do a burnout I can. Cadillacs have a number on the back of them, the Escalade for example is 600 that’s the vehicles torque in newton meters.

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