As I read all of the threads on this forum I see a great deal of "speculation" but very few actual facts or any useful information. This wild speculation could easily be avoided by GM simply weighing in and providing some "actual facts" and perhaps even some weekly updates in this quickly evolving environment. There are many people who have either placed a deposit on a 2020 C8 Corvette or actually placed an order almost one year ago. For those who have an actual order which has reached an Event Code of 3000 or greater, they have valid questions that need to be answered so an informed decision can be made whether or not to proceed with their order or to cancel their order and cut their losses. I think that General Motors owes it to their many Dealers and Loyal Customers to answer the following VERY BASIC QUESTIONS;

1. If your order is at Event Code 3000 (or greater) will your 2020 C8 Corvette be built or will you be moved into a 2021 model?
2. If your car will be built, will it be built before late summer or early fall when it will be almost one model year old when it is delivered?

Customers located in the mid-west or eastern states probably will not want a car that they would be unable to use until Spring 2021 and should have the option to CANCEL their orders or to select another car that is readily available. I personally know of four people who got tired of waiting without any information or assurances that their car would ever be built and have already cancelled their orders and purchased another vehicle. All four of these people have stated that they would never purchase a GM product ever again.

 

As someone with an order at 3000, I agree. But reality is GM has nothing to gain by giving out dates or numbers on production right now. No one knows, not even GM, what the next couple months will hold. We live in a different world than we did 6 months ago. All it does is open them up to get crushed by everyone if those dates or numbers aren't met. It makes their decision easier because there is such demand for the car, some percentage of people getting tired of waiting doesn't put a dent in the waiting list.

 

 

I can totally understand the frustration.. However, I wonder if GM is even able to give an honest answer to those questions without basically "speculating" themselves?
How many times will they have to stop the lines due to people testing positive, like Ford has two or three times already? Unknown. How many times will suppliers not be able to meet demand for critical parts for the same reason, and cause BG production to slow down again, or stop altogether? Unknown. How much production capacity will they ultimately be able to reach, and then maintain for the rest of the year? No one knows. Like it or not, everything that's happening right now is unprecedented, and that makes this new territory for everyone involved. (Honestly, I'd bet there are FAR more things to consider as well that could have drastic impacts on how many they will ultimately succeed in producing for the year.)

I'm curious, (and this not sarcasm, it's an honest question) are any of the other major auto manufacturers already releasing production numbers for the rest of the year?

Like I said, I do understand the frustration. And for what it's worth, I do agree that more frequent updates would help, at least a little. I also agree with you that taking delivery of a new car in November that's already a year old would suck, especially up here in the Northeast! Maybe those buyers should be given the option to take delivery of the vehicle or wait for a 2021? But of course, that creates a whole new problem when it comes to determining who gets what place in line for the 2021s.
At the end of the day, no one has a crystal ball. GM didn't ask for the strike, and GM didn't ask for the outbreak and the resulting shut down. And in my op, GM promising to build a specific # of cars, and then failing to meet that # (for the third time), isn't going to make anyone happy.

 

Means there are four people doing the happy dance because they just moved up.

 

Sweet moved up on the 3000 list

 

I don't think that's reasonable, unless they know the answers to these very relevant questions:
1. What is the number of COVID cases in the BG factory is the max acceptable to keep the production line moving without a re-evaluation or shut down? What additional precautions will be put in place and does that require a pause in production?
2. If workers get sick, who will take their place on the line?
3. What is the plan for parts supplier in other states and countries for the next few months?
4. What is the plan for each state if COVID rates rise again after easing up of lockdown status? Who makes those decisions? How will it affect the factories?
5. How many union workers who test positive with COVID19 are needed for the UAW to shut it down?

We're not in a 'business as usual' state of affairs right now, and I don't think we can expect any business to provide an accurate forecast for the next six months. I would stop asking out loud. It's not going to make answers come any quicker. News and information has been coming out when it's available, so we all have to wait and see, just like the rest of the world.

 

Your eyes must hurt!

 

"As I read all of the threads on this forum I see a great deal of "speculation""

I would make a killing in the stock market if I knew the future. Generally speaking all orders should be filled but the question is when. If there are more orders than can be filled by November when the declare the car is now a 2021 it does not make a difference to what is built. The question is will GM want the person who ordered it pay more than they have a contract for. It would be poor business wise to charge those people more who waited so long. If you would not drive in the snow put it into a garage. I makes no difference to me when I get what I ordered just that I get it at my contract cost.

 

Don't worry. I'm sure GM will be offering Year End Discounts, Long Term 0% Financing and Rebates to those 2020 C8 Buyers who will be getting their Cars near the end of the Year, just like they do with every Leftover last year Model Vehicle they sell.

 

I absolutely agree. If they do increase the price for 2021, (and right now, who knows?), I would hope that they at least state that anyone who has one already on order at the time of the increase, get's their original price honored, regardless if it ends up being a 2020 or a 2021 model. I would be shocked if they didn't.

 

Your contract is with a dealer, NOT with GM/Chevy. If your dealer cannot deliver what was promised to you (a 2020 MY Corvette per your specs), then they are in breach of their contract and you are entitled to a refund of any deposit because of that breach. 2020 MY orders will NOT automatically roll over to 2021 MY orders. They must be re-entered into GM Order Workbench. There are colors going away, 2 new colors and some other minor changes. In late 2014 there was a similar situation with some 2014 C7 orders not built by the time 2015 production started. Chevy held the line on prices for a month or two so that those that failed to get their 2014's built could get a 2015 ordered at the same price. I would not be surprised if they do the same for any 2021 price increase.

 

Not this year with the C8 they won't. Not a shot in hell of this happening. Why? Because the demand for the 2020 C8 is huge, and the demand for the 2021 will also be very great.

 

I wonder if they would hold the line even longer this time, since there is likely going to be vastly larger numbers of customers who didn't get their car this time around?
Either way, Good info! Thanks!

Edit: I guess an easier solution would be to not have a price increase at all for the 2021 model year, although with all the profit loss for this year due to the shut downs, who knows...

 

Referencing Zymurgy..."There are colors going away, 2 new colors and some other minor changes." Yes, no Blade Silver but perhaps an ala C8R #4 "Silver Flare Metallic". For me that is a major step in the wrong direction if a MY 2020 is not available by the time my order comes up. All other considerations do not overly concern me.

Thanks,

Michael
from San Diego, CA

 

So you think they are not going to build the 4 cars?

 

A month or two is more than enough time to get your order in for a 2021 if that is what happens.

Has your order already gone to 3000 or beyond? If not, you won't be getting a 2020. If it has, there is a decent chance you will get your 2020.

 

And if it is an HTC, then how does that affect the odds?

 

Duh. Man I am slow sometimes.
Thanks for not rippin me for missing the obvious!

 

So you want GM to quell 'wild speculation' by speculating wildly? These are uncertain times and getting your boxers up in a bind is not going to change that. Don't want to wait? For the next two or three years GM's C8 dance card is full up. So move on. Buy a Supra or a 911. Me? I'm hunkered down glad my wife and I are healthy. One day we will have a C8 in the garage. Heaven can wait for us.