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Old Jul 15, 2020 | 10:29 AM
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With the factory ones not available immediately does any one have a recommendation of a good aftermarket?
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Old Jul 15, 2020 | 10:36 AM
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With the factory ones not available immediately does any one have a recommendation of a good aftermarket?
I got a CF hi-wing on order with Atomic 6 Carbon, there are a couple of other vendors that are on the forum that are manufacturing the wing and other parts .
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With the factory ones not available immediately does any one have a recommendation of a good aftermarket?
I have the Side Skirts and Splitter on order from C7 Carbon. This is their High Wing in two finishes. Real Caron Fiber $1048 shipped or $799 painted carbon flash like the OEM.

I have the 5ZZ High Wing Spoiler ordered with my 2020 Event 3000 C8 for $1150 but that includes install. Not an easy task as the whole rear bomber etc has to be removed. It's my understanding, if it is backordered, it will be sent to the dealer (in my case the Courtesy Delivery Dealer) when it is and they will install (and get paid from GM when they do as they did for the Stage 2 Aero Option on my current 2017 Grand Sport.)

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Old Jul 15, 2020 | 11:16 AM
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Does anyone know if I ordered a Z51 with the high wing if it will come with the Z51 spoiler from the factory still or is it not installed at all?
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Old Jul 15, 2020 | 11:28 AM
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Does anyone know if I ordered a Z51 with the high wing if it will come with the Z51 spoiler from the factory still or is it not installed at all?
Yep! The Z51 leaves the factory with the Z51 spoiler. In fact doubt GM does stocks the high wing spoiler at Bowling Green! A GM computer sends a message to the vendor computer before the car goes into production. It's shipped to the receiving dealer's parts department with the VIN number of the car. That is how my Stage 2 Aero Option was handled. Why deal with the extra cost at Bowling Green of receiving, storing and then shipping! Heck let the vendor ship it once!

In fact, I'll give to the "Great Corvette Tech" at my Courtesy Delivery Dealer the Z51 spoiler as a tip for the install! He is very good and can sell it however! Can use the High Wing packaging to protect while shipping!!

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Has anyone observed FIRSTHAND, the process that the GM dealer uses to install the high wing spoiler on a non Z-51 C8 Corvette. This must be for a car ORDERED with the high wing RPO, not one purchased from the GM supplier or any aftermarket version. I understand once a non Z-51 car is built it would be shipped to the ordering dealership without the high wing for overall vehicle prep and delivery to the customer. The installation of the high wing spoiler will now be performed by the dealer service/body employee at a later date. Probably very few have been installed since late May. This option has been on and will be on backorder for an unknown period of time. Not sure if the dealer orders the high wing (like what is done for the painted dealer installed engine cover) or Bowling Green processes the order to the supplier because it only comes in four painted colors and is referenced on the customer build order.. Also, if not carbon fiber where does the spoiler get painted, at the dealership or back to Bowling Green for painting and shipment to the dealership.
Because the car is not a Z-51, the rear facia needs rework (holes drilled) and more items removed and reinstalled to facilitate installation of the high wing. What is this process?
This is not required for Z-51 cars because those spoilers are installed at the factory. The only information that I have confirmed is that for any of you that purchased one of these high wing spoilers for your C8 please understand if you don't have it installed by the dealership (from your original order at $1100) it will not be honored for any warranty or damage issues due to non GM dealer installation. This is the same policy for those that ordered the painted engine cover in silver or red. So if you install yourself, no warranty for either item.
I haven't seen much detailed description about how this option gets from order to installation. Also, what is covered under warranty. Mainly it's a love the high wing or hate situation.
I wonder if anyone has dared to take a high wing through a non-touchless car wash. Normally, there is a specific GM test procedure that validates exterior items by running the same vehicle through about 50 successive car washes and rents a car wash after hours to run this test.
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Old Jul 16, 2020 | 02:23 PM
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^^^^
Here is exactly what you are asking. It's short but 5 minutes in shows the base car with a wing having holes drilled being installed


But this is a much better video, not a base car but detailed "How To Remove" rear bumper. Not easy:


PS: Doubt Bowling Green ever sees the High Wing! Like my current Grand Sport Stage 2 Aero Option, a GM computer sends a message to the vendor and says send XYZ dealer part number ABC and put this VIN on the box. My stuff got to the dealer service department well before the car! Why waste receiving cost, storage space/cost and then move to shipping in Bowling Green. Let the Vendor ship once!

(As I would tell our Distributor Owners, "The same Brown Truck that delivers from your store after you spent money and time receiving our product, putting it on the shelf, paying folks to find, pack and ship, is the same Brown Truck who will deliver the same product from our factory!" Worked, increased sales since I knew our biggest competitor would not drop ship! Also our distributors didn’t trust them with their customer names as they also sold directly to large fabricators!)

As far as paint; vents, mirrors and other things for the C7 were painted by Vendors and delivered to Bowling Green painted. Recall some Z06 hoods were painted that way and there were posts about color match! GM gives the vendor a paint code and they paint. Probably no different than variations from batch to batch in Bowling Green!

Hmm, Corvette - car wash??

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JerryU,

That's good information. Thanks!
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If you're taking your C8 through a gas station car wash you deserve to have your spoiler ripped off. Just saying.
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This isn't promising!

https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2020...erm=2020-07-16
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Old Jul 17, 2020 | 06:38 AM
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My car came with the z51 wing. My high wing came in, I went and picked it up at the dealer, and installed it my self. A pice of cake. I timed my self. It took 16 minutes to remove the bumper. With the proper tools.
Spoiler is held in with 6 bolts. And double sided tape.
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Yep, sounded like it would be delayed anyway. Once I get the formal notice the price for my C8 will decrease ~$1150 I'll chage my order from C7 Carbon to this pacage. Adding the Wing will add $820 over the Side Skirts and Splitter package so I'll save $330. However will have to watch that install video a few more times!


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My car came with the z51 wing. My high wing came in, I went and picked it up at the dealer, and installed it my self. A pice of cake. I timed my self. It took 16 minutes to remove the bumper. With the proper tools.
Spoiler is held in with 6 bolts. And double sided tape.
Hmm, sounds like it was much shorter then when watching the videos! Did you remove the rear wheels to remove the bumper? The Conti video did but the more comprehensive and better video, with all steps shown, did not. Still lots of bolts to remove. Video below:

However like the C7 bottom bumper I removed to install my C7 Carbon diffuser, which has clips that are a PIA, this looks like all bolts.

Yep, 6 bolts to hold the spooler but looks lie 30+ to remove the bumper! Any tricks or things to watch out for?


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No the rear wheels do not need to be removed. You need to remove 2 torx bolts from each rear wheel well, then pull back the cover. Look up in there and you can see 2 7/32 bolts and 1 10mm nut that needs to be removed. Under the car there are 3 bolts behind the rear wheels, attached to the bottom cover.Then just all the torx bolts in the top hatch. You also have 3 electrical connectors to remove for the tail lights.
It really helps to have the small 1/4 inch drive snap on electric ratchets, makes the job go way way faster.
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It really helps to have the small 1/4 inch drive snap on electric ratchets, makes the job go way way faster.[/QUOTE]
Thanks great info! Still doing that in 16 minutes is remarkable! I seldom have a mod etc that tanks that little time. But them it's fun so it's enjoyable as well as taking the time for pics!

It is much better when someone like yourself defines how and how easy. Gives the confidence for DIYer like myself I won't run into unexpected issues. Thanks again!

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Originally Posted by Metraman
Hmm, after a phone call to my Kerbeck Salesman and validating his comment with the Corvette Concierge who said my Event 3000 still shows the High Wing will be interested if anyone validates this info!
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Old Jul 17, 2020 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryU
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It really helps to have the small 1/4 inch drive snap on electric ratchets, makes the job go way way faster.
Thanks great info! Still doing that in 16 minutes is remarkable! I seldom have a mod etc that tanks that little time. But them it's fun so it's enjoyable as well as taking the time for pics!

It is much better when someone like yourself defines how and how easy. Gives the confidence for DIYer like myself I won't run into unexpected issues. Thanks again! [/QUOTE]
I forgot to mention, that I am a mechanic with 30 years experience. But it is a very novice job. It is very easy.
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Thanks,
I copied your post and will show it to the great Corvette tech who will install mine (assuming GM will send it sometime!) Will make him feel better as I hope the GM allotted time (and amount of bonus he'll earn) will make him feel better! For us DIY folks time is not the issue but unexpected things you run into are! My latest input from my Kerbeck Salesman and the Corvette Concierge say it's still on order BUT if GM does removed from Event 3000 C8's - I'm ready to do it myself! I'm 77 but still in good shape and easier than the rear diffuser I installed on my 2017 Grand Sport! It's also fun when it's not your job!

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the worst part is jacking up the C8
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Old Jul 18, 2020 | 04:15 PM
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Hmm, you didn't read "the lark" posts or watch this video. NO NEED to jack the car! Yep Conti video showed that BUT this is a much better video with all details and they did not jack the car.

Now "the lark" did the whole job in 16 minutes" but he was a mechanic for 30 years!
Having watch both I MAY want to put my two jacks on jack pads and raise the car BUT not have the wheels off the ground. Should provide somewhat better access and I'm not trying to break any records or getting a bonus for a quick time!


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