Somewhere I thought I had read that a second production shift was going to start 8/3 but now I don’t see any mention of it.

does anyone know anything?

 

it hasn't happened....and no one has revealed anything official....its still in the HOPE IT HAPPENS stage.

 

Corvette: Six months behind and working half shifts to catch up!

 

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Technically 1/4 shift 2/8 = 0.25
I guess that is all the Parts Suppliers can do.

 

GM wants the 2nd shift to start asap, but when essential suppliers aren't able to produce parts fast enough due to COVID-19 restrictions, etc., this becomes the limiting factor.

 

Jeremy, Why can't Mary Barra ask Trump for help to get the suppliers what they need to bring another BG shift in? He asked her for help on ventilators?

 

HIGHLY unlikely a second shift will start soon enough (if at all) for all 3000’s to be built as 2020’s. I think thousands of C8 buyers presently at 3000 should brace themselves now that they won’t see a 2020 and will end up getting a 2021 early next year. This is especially true for March allocation acceptances and the majority of HTC buyers.

It’s also likely to be a major reordering fluster cluck when GM finally drops the hammer. 2021 ordering and sequencing is shaping up to be not much better than 2020.

 

The switch over to MY21 is somewhat arbitrary, by that I mean they could continue to produce MY20 cars till the entire order backlog of event code 3000 vehicles are done. That might take till YE or even into early 2021 but that is certainly one way to keep the churn down. MY21 would then Start afterwards, kind of follows the C7 to C8 cutover model, post strike they finished the backlog of C7s first. They are already dealing with the rollover of 2020 to 2021 builds that we’re not at event code 3000 and once that’s settled a build/allocation sequence would follow more like BAU.

I am currently sitting at 3000 with a TPW of 9/14 so I have a somewhat vested interest in how this plays out but I also think the churn doesn’t help anyone, buyer or supplier, involved in this process.

 

be able to meet demand-horrors! why C8s might have to go for under msrp!

 

As many 2020 buyers at 3000 realize in November that they won't get their car until 2021, they will cancel the order and then GM won't build those cars, or the dealers will get them to sell. Problem solved.

 

Probably because not all of the key suppliers are US companies...

 

I can understand SELLING a 2020 model in 2021, but not BUILDING a model year car in a subsequent year. The only reason to do that is to prevent or limit buyers from canceling orders and receiving deposits back. It would be a situation involving a manufacturer manipulating buyers for their benefit and that’s aside from the devaluation issues of a model year built in a subsequent year. Has this ever been done?

Such a situation would almost certainly face legal challenge. I think they could extend the build year until December 31, 2020, but after that, it would be a ‘21 model.

 

That's my expectation. Personally, I will not accept a 2020 model year car manufactured in 2021 just because GM is scared I will bail and thus essentially manipulate the process holding me hostage to a deposit.

 

Per some other posts, they can legally build 2020's through 2021.

 

There is legal information proving that here? More information, please.

I understand the concept of “Model Year” (MY) and “build year”, but I’ve never heard of a manufacturer building a model year in subsequent calendar years. Considering the fact GM jammed FAR more “accepted” (Event 3000) allocations in March than at any time in Corvette history, it could be reasonably argued they did that solely to “lock-in” deposits knowing the 2020 production year was at high risk to be a disaster (it has). In fact, I made that assertion months ago.

Event 3000 strips many, if not most buyers of deposit refunds if they cancel. Now, they might force those same buyers to accept a model year manufactured (built) in a subsequent year? If that is legal (especially after GM’s action in March described above), then GM could legally build such car in ANY subsequent year. They could suspend production and claim all unbuilt 3000’s will be manufactured in 2022. If GM’s 2020 production disaster (partially self-inflicted) leads to yet another action of stringing along buyers, that will be unprecedented. Yet another of the MANY reasons this manufacture has to step up and communicate their intentions to buyers instead of treating them like mushrooms.

In my case, my order says my deposit is “refundable until built” and I knew nothing about any “event codes” when I signed it, but many buyers who don’t want a 2020 build in some future year will be understandable enraged if GM kicks the can on their orders again for self-serving purposes. Again, right now absent a second shift, the math doesn’t support all 3000’s making the cut this calendar year, so something will have to give; either extending (yet again) the 2020 production until the end of the year or finally admitting they oversold and underdelivered meaning those affected should have at least the option of bailing or reordering as 2021’s.

 

Here is a link to the regulation:
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/...l6-part565.xml

Per the regulation:
"(m) Model year means the year used to designate a discrete vehicle model, irrespective of the calendar year in which the vehicle was actually produced, provided that the production period does not exceed 24 months."

Now I'm not an expert in interpreting these regulations but it sounds, to me, like a model year can span 2 years.

So, if GM wishes, they could extend 2020 production into 2021.

 

OK, thanks for that info. I do read the "purpose and scope" of this info (VIN requirements) to be related to streamlining recall information though. But, for the sake of argument, I'll assume GM can, in fact, run 2020 into 2021. But again, I think it's a complicated situation when you willfully front load so many orders to a "non-refundable" status and then make that the last allocation. I don't know the exact numbers, but I'll bet 12-15,000 of the 21,000 2020 C8's at event 3000 went in a single month allocation acceptance, double that of all the previous months combined. Clearly, GM knew what it was doing when they did that and the optics of that are bad considering the path since then. It would be yet worse with what would appear (to me) to be a deliberate effort to rope buyers into situations they cannot get out of without losing money if they once again punt 2020 production, this time into the grandstand of 2021. IMO, the bottom line is GM needs to step up and for once be honest with buyers regarding the expected production situation so they can plan.

But, the topic is "second shift?" and without that, GM will be 5-6,000 cars short by present production cutoff date. That's A LOT of cars. Additional significant delay's for COVID or another unforeseen event could very well push 2021 buyers well into next Summer deliveries or later if 2020 gets pushed into 2021 or if on the other hand, 2020 ends with 5-6,000 2020 buyers at 3000 empty-handed with production ending in November, it is THEY who could get pushed to the back of the 2021 line depending on the dealer and watching yet another Summer go by. Hate to be so pessimistic, but I'm only a product of the GM C8 environment. Let's hope this situation doesn't end up a case of compounding risky and anti-customer oriented decisions becoming truly disastrous for both many 2020 and 2021 buyers.

 

I hope he is right.

 

Makes total sense.

Suppliers just needed time to catch up.