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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 01:52 PM
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When we select "Track" mode we know the Powertrain is set to the maximum power for engine output. My question is when we set up Z mode and for the Powertrain setting select "Track" is that giving us the same maximum power output like we get in the "Track Mode" or something less?
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Originally Posted by kong
When we select "Track" mode we know the Powertrain is set to the maximum power for engine output. My question is when we set up Z mode and for the Powertrain setting select "Track" is that giving us the same maximum power output like we get in the "Track Mode" or something less?
I am not sure which of the 5 track modes the Z button is programed to enter into when using Z mode switch?

When we select track we have to choose between the follow
Wet
Dry
Sport 1
Sport 2
Race

I do know when selecting track mode that Race removes some of the nannies that are present in the other mode like wet or dry..

So good question as to which track mode the z button is linked too ?

Maybe one of CF resident experts or who have insiders at Gm could provide that answer.

I also would like to know and never thought about it until reading your question.
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There is not difference in power available between the modes. It's all in how the trans, TC, and ESC, work together to make the drive smoother or harsher depending on what you're looking for.8.5.2
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Are there modes that dont allow for "maximum power for engine output"?

I would think all modes would allow for maximum power.

The difference would be all the electronic "nannies" employed.
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Pages 186-188 answer all these questions. In Z-Mode, the defaults are:
Powertrain- Track
Throttle Progression - Track
Trans Shift Mode - Track
AFM - Track
Traction and Stability Control - Normal (only option available). Track mode, only has Track.
PTM - PTM not available. In Track mode, PTM is available.
Steering - Sport. Track only has Track
Suspension - Sport. Track only has Track. (this setting only applies to Mag Ride equipped)
Brake Response - Sport. Track only has Track.

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Originally Posted by vetteman41960
I am not sure which of the 5 track modes the Z button is programed to enter into when using Z mode switch?

When we select track we have to choose between the follow
Wet
Dry
Sport 1
Sport 2
Race

I do know when selecting track mode that Race removes some of the nannies that are present in the other mode like wet or dry..

So good question as to which track mode the z button is linked too ?

Maybe one of CF resident experts or who have insiders at Gm could provide that answer.

I also would like to know and never thought about it until reading your question.

Are those modes only for z51 or mag ride? I don't have those options on my non-z51?
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Are those modes only for z51 or mag ride? I don't have those options on my non-z51?
Those are PTM (Performance Traction Management) modes and require Z51 AND MSRC.
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Originally Posted by stvdman
Are there modes that dont allow for "maximum power for engine output"?

I would think all modes would allow for maximum power.

The difference would be all the electronic "nannies" employed.
Sounds like you want valet mode. That's the only one that will cut power.

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I can find no reference to valet mode cutting power. Teen Driver will limit speed and may cut power. Can you provide a link on the Valet Mode cutting power?
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I can find no reference to valet mode cutting power. Teen Driver will limit speed and may cut power. Can you provide a link on the Valet Mode cutting power?



So, just to be clear, if in the Z mode settings I select Powertrain to "Track" I will be getting the same full power of the engine as I do when operating in "Track Mode". { not Z mode }

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Set Powertrain, Throttle Progression and Trans Shift Mode all to Track in Z-Mode (which is their default setting) as all of these impact how power is delivered in some way.
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Set Powertrain, Throttle Progression and Trans Shift Mode all to Track in Z-Mode (which is their default setting) as all of these impact how power is delivered in some way.
Thank you.
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Originally Posted by Whiskerbiscuit
Are those modes only for z51 or mag ride? I don't have those options on my non-z51?
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Those are PTM (Performance Traction Management) modes and require Z51 AND MSRC.
PTM requires Z51 because it uses the eLSD, which is only included with Z51. PTM has nothing to do with MSRC. The suspension settings, however, do require MSRC.

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Originally Posted by DSOMrulz
PTM requires Z51 because it uses the eLSD, which is only included with Z51. PTM has nothing to do with MSRC. The suspension settings, however, do require MSRC.
The Online Order/Reference Guide disagrees:

2020:
B4Z Performance Traction Management
1 - Included and only available with (FE4) Z51 performance suspension with Magnetic Selective Ride Control.
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B4Z Performance Traction Management
1 - Included and only available with (FE4) Z51 performance suspension with Magnetic Selective Ride Control.
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When you go to sport or track mode and press the esc button 2 times you are offered several "track modes, wet sport 1 sport 2 and race" some reduce power, others don't which of these modes are available in Zora mode? and what is the difference between sport1 and race?
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Originally Posted by kong
When we select "Track" mode we know the Powertrain is set to the maximum power for engine output. My question is when we set up Z mode and for the Powertrain setting select "Track" is that giving us the same maximum power output like we get in the "Track Mode" or something less?
As others have said it's NOT adjusting the "Amount" of Power it's how Power is being supplied!

There is a recent Thread where the poster made a Video the clearly describes how to make your C8 a "different" car! That is what I have been doing for over a month when another poster made the suggestion.

I had been driving in Manual Mode to match the way I drove for 7 years in my 2014 Z51 and 2017 Grand Sport M7s. Seldom used more the 5th gear as did not often use the Interstate, which was the only place I used 7th. Seldom found a need for 6th in my back roads drive the 20 miles to town or when I was driving on our 55 mile speed limit rural roads where I typical drove at ~65 mph. The trip to town has many turns and stops and sections past farm fields with no homes, people or other cars (fun and corn and cotton don't care how fast I'm going!)

Then I found a way to set Z Mode to about match how I was driving and could do than in D not having to use Manual Mode.

SET Z MODE AND TRY
Z Mode is the only mode where you can set Power to Track without having to have all other features of Track Mode such as Ride, Steering, Brakes!

I have my Z MODE; Ride, Steering and Brakes set at SPORT and POWER set to Track. You can have Ride, Steering and Braking set to Touring if you like! This is what you will find:
  • The car is seldom out of 5th at normal driving speeds (up to ~60 mph or higher) so you have the instant torque with modest extra throttle and not having the car downshift.
  • It will hold in gear longer when accelerating from a slow speed and shift at a higher rpm
  • When braking it will downshift at higher speeds and aggressively
  • It stays in V8 Mode- NO V4.
  • A benefit I find versus Manual Mode is when accelerating from a stop and making a turn. Then the steering wheel is a position where I can't shift out of 1st when desired because the unshift paddle is not in the proper position! See pic below of a common occurrence when I'm returning home and stopped in the 4 lane highway divider waiting for a gap in packs of traffic (speed limit 60 mph, cars often going past 70 mph.) In Z MODE it shifts near redline when accelerating to merge!
Try it, it's fun and as the poster who made the video said, "It's a different car!"

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when you enter Performance Traction - which is a subset of track mode, engine power is reduced under certain conditions in mode 1, mode 2, mode 3, mode 4. Mode 5 "race" is the only mode with full engine power available according to the owners manual page 193

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