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"Designed by Lingenfelter Performance, these 60 beauties are powered by a 600 HP engine and come complete with high flow carbon fiber performance designed intake manifold, high flow Corsa headers, an exhaust and airbox tuned by Lingenfelter, HRE forged aluminum wheels, Michelin tires, a Peter Stevens designed aero kit and Cunningham/MOV’IT performance brakes"
"Designed by Lingenfelter Performance, these 60 beauties are powered by a 600 HP engine and come complete with high flow carbon fiber performance designed intake manifold, high flow Corsa headers, an exhaust and airbox tuned by Lingenfelter, HRE forged aluminum wheels, Michelin tires, a Peter Stevens designed aero kit and Cunningham/MOV’IT performance brakes"
How have we missed this for 20 days?
Lingenfelter has not even revealed their performance kit, that was due to be announced in November. I wonder if 600 HP is the limit of the stock injectors and ECU to automatically correct back to the factory Closed Loop AFRs. That would still be a lot.
Way back when, the Chief Engineer said GM would be working with selected vendors when asked if GM would publish ECU data. I didn't think that would work as there's a potential for legal issues. I'm not saying that GM is working with Lingenfelter Performance but it brings interesting speculation to the table. Callaway and Katech are two other names that come to mind as potential vendors that GM has worked with in the past.
I agree that the 600HP maybe within the limits of what can be done without modifying the existing ECU. It's also possible that GM and/or selected vendors will sell modified ECUs with stated capabilities. Exceed them at your own risk!
I really doubt they are getting an extra 100hp from just a full exhaust and intake. That is highly unlikely unless the LT2 is completely different than any other Chevy small block.
I really doubt they are getting an extra 100hp from just a full exhaust and intake. That is highly unlikely unless the LT2 is completely different than any other Chevy small block.
Don't know how they're getting it BUT I consider Lingenfelter a credible vendor. The source being quoted probably did a cut and paste on information provided by Lingenfelter?
Neither the source or Lingenfelter has raised objections to the released data and the source is selling tickets.
Don't know how they're getting it BUT I consider Lingenfelter a credible vendor. The source being quoted probably did a cut and paste on information provided by Lingenfelter?
Neither the source or Lingenfelter has raised objections to the released data and the source is selling tickets.
I am a little more skeptical than you I guess. Even on their website, a C8 exhaust gives 19hp which leaves headers and intake for another 80. If you are familiar with any type of N/A motor or even corvettes in the past you are absolutely not getting 100 hp with just an exhaust and intake. You would need at least an aftermarket cam. Now if this was a turbocharged engine it would be completely possible but it isnt. Lingenfelter Extreme S C8 Exhaust
Here is a full exhaust including headers only getting 34 hp and you are saying an intake is going to give you 66 hp, lol? Not happening.
Nope didn't say that, said "Come, Watson, come. The game is afoot."
More specifically, If they say 600HP, I'll buy into that. If they say they made those mods, I'll buy into that. If they come along later and say, and "by the way there's these mods also", I'll buy into that.
What I'm saying is 600HP. Buy the ticket, win the car and get 600HP.
To me there's no reason for the source to quote a made up number and there's no reason for the vendor to promise what doesn't exist. Mix up in communications, maybe. But no action by the Lingenfelter to correct the mix up in two weeks? Nope.
I like the looks also, but that's another story.
Last edited by Kodiak Bear; Dec 23, 2020 at 04:28 PM.
I dont understand your point because something is obviously not adding up. There is no way you are getting 100 hp with an exhaust and intake. It simply is not happening. So either someone did quote a made up number or the listed mods are wrong.
Not to mention the C8 in the link is a horrible photoshop render and not an actual car like it is said in the description. The whole thing is questionable.
Last edited by Sub Driver; Dec 23, 2020 at 04:45 PM.
600 at the crank (with 93 gas) won't be possible without a cam swap. I would guess that with a stock cam, e85 tune, and a compression bump to 12:1 would still only put you in the 580 range (along with the mods listed). As for injectors, I've made 705 crank in the LT1 motor which is about maxed out. I added the LT4 low side for insurance afterwards because I was on the edge.
If I understand correctly, the objections are that the means described in the posting are insufficient to deliver 600HP IYOs. There must be more to the story, IYOs?
I stated earlier If they come along later and say, and "by the way there's these mods also", I'll buy into that. What is of interest to me is that Lingenfelter deliver 600HP.
Prize Details Posting
Cunningham C8 Specifications:
600hp 6.2L V8 DI engine by Lingenfelter with Corsa Sport Tuned Headers and Airbox
Lingenfelter Z51 performance suspension with Magnetic Selective street/track settings
HRE 20"x9" Front and 21"x12" Rear Bespoke Forged Aluminum Wheels
Michelin Pilot Sport 4S 245/30ZR20 front and 325/25ZR21 Rear, high performance run-flat summer-only tires
Cunningham competition sport bucket seats
That leaves enough wiggle room to ask what is in/on the 600hp 6.2L V8 DI engine by Lingenfelter besides the listed options, if anything
. "What I'm saying is 600HP. Buy the ticket, win the car and get 600HP".
Are you saying that the prize description is false or perhaps simply incomplete?
The plot thickens
This is from the source mfg of the car
"It is powered by a specially tuned Lingenfelter 600 (naturally aspirated) horsepower LT2 motor, with a Carbon Fiber Intake Manifold, Corsa Performance Headers, Exhaust and High Flow Airbox, a 8 speed DCT transaxle, Cunningham/MOV’IT Disc Brakes, Tuned Suspension, Motorsport derived Aero Kit, 20 & 21 inch Michelin Pilot Sport 4S Tires mounted on bespoke forged aluminum HRE wheels that are modeled on the racing Halibrand Kidney Bean wheels used on the original 1960 Le Mans winning Cunningham Corvette’s".
So the info comes from Cunningham Automotive, not directly from Lingenfelter
Which changes the game for me. I don't know Cunningham Automotive. So until I can get confirmation from Lingenfelter , the whole thing is in a cocked hat.
I'm not done tracking this one.
Last edited by Kodiak Bear; Dec 23, 2020 at 07:05 PM.
I really doubt they are getting an extra 100hp from just a full exhaust and intake. That is highly unlikely unless the LT2 is completely different than any other Chevy small block.
Completely agree. Would love to be wrong since the car would be awesome with 500 RWHP. I'd be thrilled to see 60 HP from an exhaust and intake.
The plot thickens
This is from the source mfg of the car
"It is powered by a specially tuned Lingenfelter 600 (naturally aspirated) horsepower LT2 motor, with a Carbon Fiber Intake Manifold, Corsa Performance Headers, Exhaust and High Flow Airbox, a 8 speed DCT transaxle, Cunningham/MOV’IT Disc Brakes, Tuned Suspension, Motorsport derived Aero Kit, 20 & 21 inch Michelin Pilot Sport 4S Tires mounted on bespoke forged aluminum HRE wheels that are modeled on the racing Halibrand Kidney Bean wheels used on the original 1960 Le Mans winning Cunningham Corvette’s".
So the info comes from Cunningham Automotive, not directly from Lingenfelter
Which changes the game for me. I don't know Cunningham Automotive. So until I can get confirmation from Lingenfelter , the whole thing is in a cocked hat.
I'm not done tracking this one.
Nice!!
And lingenfelter is no joke! They stand behind their work.
So i know they could make magic on these cars. 600 is impressive!
"Cunningham Automotive Inc. is a Texas Domestic For-Profit Corporation filed on September 17, 2020. The company's filing status is listed as In Existence and its File Number is 0803765309. The Registered Agent on file for this company is Antonio Pierce and is located at 1079 W. Round Grove Road, Suite 318, Lewisville, TX 75067.
The company has 1 principal on record. The principal is Antonio Pierce from Lewisville TX."
So far, in addition to the posted site I previously listed, this is all I can find on the referenced mfg.
Anyone in Lewisville TX heard of this company?
The site shows a purchase price of $139,995 and a reserve deposit of $5000
Last edited by Kodiak Bear; Dec 24, 2020 at 12:26 PM.