Z51 Necessity
1. How do the AS tires grip and feel?
2. How is the turn in compared to the C7?
3. How are the standard brakes?
4. How is the ride experience without the mag suspension?
5. Does it still corner well under hard throttle or will I regret buying the non Z51?
I know driving the 2 different cars will help make my decision easier but there are no cars to drive so I’m buying blindly.
Thanks for taking your time to answer.
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You are unlikely to get enough heat into summer tires on the street to notice the difference between AS and summer tires.
Historically, bigger brakes give more fade resistance and a better initial bite. You are unlikely to see brake fade in street driving and I don't know how much of the brake feel makes it through the eBoost system unaltered.
My opinion:
If you plan on tracking the car then get the Z51.
The Z51 does have an advantage on the street, it gives you a "tighter" feel, more like a sports car than a grand tourer. So it depends what you are looking to get out of the C8.
If your main use will be touring then the non-Z51 is fine.
If you like spirited driving in the twisties get the Z51.
If you like the best of both worlds add MSRC to the Z51. It enhances the handling ability while allowing you to tame the ride down for touring.
If you want the best of both worlds but are trying to save some money add MSRC to the base. It will allow you to stiffen up the suspension for spirited driving and give you a better ride on bad roads. And you can you can add stiffer sway bars later on to get you close to the feel of the Z51. Keep in mind that the mode settings have no effect on the suspension without MSRC.
Also, there are some downsides to the Z51 for street use - summer tires and brake dust. But both of these can be addressed.
And if you decide against the Z51 make sure you consider getting the NPP performance exhaust.
You are unlikely to get enough heat into summer tires on the street to notice the difference between AS and summer tires.
Historically, bigger brakes give more fade resistance and a better initial bite. You are unlikely to see brake fade in street driving and I don't know how much of the brake feel makes it through the eBoost system unaltered.
My opinion:
If you plan on tracking the car then get the Z51.
The Z51 does have an advantage on the street, it gives you a "tighter" feel, more like a sports car than a grand tourer. So it depends what you are looking to get out of the C8.
If your main use will be touring then the non-Z51 is fine.
If you like spirited driving in the twisties get the Z51.
If you like the best of both worlds add MSRC to the Z51. It enhances the handling ability while allowing you to tame the ride down for touring.
If you want the best of both worlds but are trying to save some money add MSRC to the base. It will allow you to stiffen up the suspension for spirited driving and give you a better ride on bad roads. And you can you can add stiffer sway bars later on to get you close to the feel of the Z51. Keep in mind that the mode settings have no effect on the suspension without MSRC.
Also, there are some downsides to the Z51 for street use - summer tires and brake dust. But both of these can be addressed.
And if you decide against the Z51 make sure you consider getting the NPP performance exhaust.
Last edited by RKCRLR; Feb 4, 2021 at 11:16 AM.
I don't notice quite as much suspension difference by mode in the C8 as I did in my C7 which never had the $300 mag ride update. However, the ride, response and overall feel of the C8 compared to the older generation cars make them seem like antiques.
You are unlikely to get enough heat into summer tires on the street to notice the difference between AS and summer tires.
Historically, bigger brakes give more fade resistance and a better initial bite. You are unlikely to see brake fade in street driving and I don't know how much of the brake feel makes it through the eBoost system unaltered.
My opinion:
If you plan on tracking the car then get the Z51.
The Z51 does have an advantage on the street, it gives you a "tighter" feel, more like a sports car than a grand tourer. So it depends what you are looking to get out of the C8.
If your main use will be touring then the non-Z51 is fine.
If you like spirited driving in the twisties get the Z51.
If you like the best of both worlds add MSRC to the Z51. It enhances the handling ability while allowing you to tame the ride down for touring.
If you want the best of both worlds but are trying to save some money add MSRC to the base. It will allow you to stiffen up the suspension for spirited driving and give you a better ride on bad roads. And you can you can add stiffer sway bars later on to get you close to the feel of the Z51. Keep in mind that the mode settings have no effect on the suspension without MSRC.
Also, there are some downsides to the Z51 for street use - summer tires and brake dust. But both of these can be addressed.
And if you decide against the Z51 make sure you consider getting the NPP performance exhaust.

I personally am not going to be tracking so I went without the Z51 but definitely the performance exhaust (which is where the Z51 gets the roughly extra 5hp) and the MSRC (Mag Ride).
You are unlikely to get enough heat into summer tires on the street to notice the difference between AS and summer tires.
Historically, bigger brakes give more fade resistance and a better initial bite. You are unlikely to see brake fade in street driving and I don't know how much of the brake feel makes it through the eBoost system unaltered.
My opinion:
If you plan on tracking the car then get the Z51.
The Z51 does have an advantage on the street, it gives you a "tighter" feel, more like a sports car than a grand tourer. So it depends what you are looking to get out of the C8.
If your main use will be touring then the non-Z51 is fine.
If you like spirited driving in the twisties get the Z51.
If you like the best of both worlds add MSRC to the Z51. It enhances the handling ability while allowing you to tame the ride down for touring.
If you want the best of both worlds but are trying to save some money add MSRC to the base. It will allow you to stiffen up the suspension for spirited driving and give you a better ride on bad roads. And you can you can add stiffer sway bars later on to get you close to the feel of the Z51. Keep in mind that the mode settings have no effect on the suspension without MSRC.
Also, there are some downsides to the Z51 for street use - summer tires and brake dust. But both of these can be addressed.
And if you decide against the Z51 make sure you consider getting the NPP performance exhaust.
If the package is $5900 and you were going to get the NPP anyway ( $1,100), is $4900 worth brakes rear axle, cooling, and eLSD?
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If the package is $5900 and you were going to get the NPP anyway ( $1,100), is $4900 worth brakes rear axle, cooling, and eLSD?





I have recently swapped out tires to the All Season tires, but other than that, I wanted the eLSD with different ratio rear and all the other features, as mentioned such as additional cooling, larger brakes, etc.
The tires give me the ability to ride with more traction in the winter months here in the cold country, but I'm not feeling that I'm loosing track capability as I'm not tracking our car anyway. In addition, I wanted the Z51 spoiler.
Last edited by Strake; Feb 4, 2021 at 01:16 PM.
One next to the last thought, the additional radiator can only help reliability and the suspension is very different and there is no way to "after market" it if for no other reason than there is no ediff without it.
Last thought, regardless of how we spec our cars we should all take time to think about how blessed we are to have such a "dilemma" in the first place!!
you get
NPP exhaust
eLSD which is a factor in everyday spirited driving and non during cornering
better gearing
bigger better brakes
added cooling
titanium sway bar
better springs/shocks
aero Front and rear spoilers
More aggressive mode tuning
It is a huge value for what you get.
To me it is worth more than a 2lt package as I am getting it as a sports car that rides great. I would second guess myself as to what the car could be if I I'd not get it. It is all about the driving experience.
Nothing on on this car is a necessity as in its stripped down form is an amazing car.
Not a factor in my purchase because you only get a dime on the dollar for options, but I know it will be worth more and appeal to a larger audience when it is time to sell.
Last edited by Lumberdog1; Feb 4, 2021 at 04:40 PM.
1. How do the AS tires grip and feel? Probably fine as the Z51 tires are NOT the super performance tires on my two C7s. Proof? No chatter or Ackerman set for handling!
2. How is the turn in compared to the C7? Much faster.
3. How are the standard brakes? Both different then particular my 2017 6 piston Grand Sport as they DO NOT have vaccum assist and use more of a brake by wire GM calls eBoost (a motor drive pump that puts out up to 3000 psi.) Unless Tracking (which because of your questions you probably are not) you won't tell the difference. I think the one week point even the Z51 could be bigger for my street use. AND if you get the Z51 plan on changing to low dust pads. I did week one on my C8 Z51 (also switched to Carbotech 1521 low dust ceramic street pads on my 2014 Z51 and 2017 Grand Sport.
4. How is the ride experience without the mag suspension? Doubt you'll see much difference if you get the base car. It has the softest ride probably close even if you get MAG ride. I found I had to drive my 2017 Grand Sport in Touring until I paid for and got the MRC software upgrade to match my none MRC 2014 Z51! Drive my C8 with MRC with ride set to Sport. What MRC does do is make the car stiffer in Sport and Touring (and other benefits in transient maneuvers.) No downside so I bought for my C8 but it stays in Sport!
5. Does it still corner well under hard throttle or will I regret buying the non Z51? Unless you're an aggressive driver probably won't be able to tell the difference. If you are, would not be asking the question and would just get the Z51
I know driving the 2 different cars will help make my decision easier but there are no cars to drive so I’m buying blindly.
Thanks for taking your time to answer.
- Did I need to stuff a bored out Olds engine in my 1st car, a '41 Ford Coupe? Nope.
- Did I have to order my 1st new car in 1967 with every HD option, including quick steering, HD shocks, springs and sway bar, metallic brakes? No but did and added Plus 1 performance radial tires, headers etc.
- Did I need to install headers and make carb and ignition mods on my new 1974 260 Z? Well yes as that was a bad year for cars, exhaust air pumps, hot water going to carbs with lean mixtures, etc.. EPA force lower emissions and the car companies were not ready with CATs etc
- How about all 6 Vettes, did they need the HD options offered? Probably not BUT I would have regretted that decision so ordered every one made just for me in Bowling Green with them.
- Even ordered my StepSide S-10 with quick steering, HD springs, shocks, wider aluminum wheels, posi. Added engine modes, dual exhausts and polyurethane sway bar bushing as I had on other cars as well.
Perhaps when I get "old" I'll feel differently but I'm "only" 78 but turn 19 when I get in the C8!
Last edited by JerryU; Feb 4, 2021 at 02:34 PM.
It’s up to you...
And don’t forget you want to add in the cost of changing out the dusty brake pads.
Last edited by Greg00Coupe; Feb 4, 2021 at 04:37 PM.
1: tires, the summer only tires are terrible when the temperature gets below 50 degrees. Before I put the ZO6 away for the winter the tires were breaking loose in 4th gear at 50 mph!
2: I prefer the look of the back without the spoiler, looks more clean to me.
3: the money I saved omitting the Z51 went towards the HTC.
Try a similar approach, it might help your decision





















