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Old Feb 5, 2021 | 11:52 AM
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A local dealer called me (nephew of a friend of mine) who said I can go on his list. Not gonna do it since I'm on Macmulkins list already. Dealer said he got his 36 allocation and I would be #2 on his new list for the "next set of allocations". That dealer in 2019 got 60 allocations for the year. The salesman also said they deliver about 7 cars a month.

Question, I thought they were given out monthly? I doubt that 36 is their monthly allocations. Dealer said, being #2 on their list would get me my car in about 9 months. Still longer than my expected time with MacMulkin. Is it possible to get bi-yearly allocations?

Also he said I had to finance the car for at least 6 months. Doesn't need to be with them, just I can't come in with cash. Why would they say that?

On a good note, he did say the cost was MSRP- $500.00. Still don't think I'll take myself off MM's list.

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That's what I was thinking.

Either way, MacMulkin is only 50 minutes from me and they have such a overwhelming amount of positive feedback and have been totally transparent with me about the process, I'll stick with them.

Thanks for the info everyone.
Right now, allocation is being doled out to dealers on a quarterly basis. Not bi-weekly or monthly. And we have no control in how GM hands out the allocation. In three months, they might say allocation will go back to a monthly basis, or they could stay on a quarterly plan. There's no way to predict that.

If that "other" dealer told you they're getting 36 - now divide that by 3 which comes out to 12 orders per month.

Of course, it's totally your decision and if you would prefer to go with a dealer that wants to make you finance it for at least six months, that's up to you.

However, we'd be really bummed....you wouldn't get an awesome delivery experience...and we wouldn't get any warm fuzzies from you.
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Your dealer got their notice of their second three-month expected allocations (will cover Feb, Mar and Apr). Actual allocations are given out monthly for the C8. 36 is how many Chevy told them they can expect to get over the 3 month period.

The "must finance car for at least 6 months" is a big red flag. They will make you finance through them - this is a profit generator for the dealer.
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The "must finance car for at least 6 months" is a big red flag. They will make you finance through them - this is a profit generator for the dealer.
That's what I was thinking.

Either way, MacMulkin is only 50 minutes from me and they have such a overwhelming amount of positive feedback and have been totally transparent with me about the process, I'll stick with them.

Thanks for the info everyone.
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I'll take it if you don't want it.
PM me if you want the dealers info.
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Originally Posted by Ophthos
That's what I was thinking.

Either way, MacMulkin is only 50 minutes from me and they have such a overwhelming amount of positive feedback and have been totally transparent with me about the process, I'll stick with them.

Thanks for the info everyone.
Right now, allocation is being doled out to dealers on a quarterly basis. Not bi-weekly or monthly. And we have no control in how GM hands out the allocation. In three months, they might say allocation will go back to a monthly basis, or they could stay on a quarterly plan. There's no way to predict that.

If that "other" dealer told you they're getting 36 - now divide that by 3 which comes out to 12 orders per month.

Of course, it's totally your decision and if you would prefer to go with a dealer that wants to make you finance it for at least six months, that's up to you.

However, we'd be really bummed....you wouldn't get an awesome delivery experience...and we wouldn't get any warm fuzzies from you.
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Originally Posted by Ophthos
A local dealer called me (nephew of a friend of mine) who said I can go on his list. Not gonna do it since I'm on Macmulkins list already. Dealer said he got his 36 allocation and I would be #2 on his new list for the "next set of allocations". That dealer in 2019 got 60 allocations for the year. The salesman also said they deliver about 7 cars a month.

Question, I thought they were given out monthly? I doubt that 36 is their monthly allocations. Dealer said, being #2 on their list would get me my car in about 9 months. Still longer than my expected time with MacMulkin. Is it possible to get bi-yearly allocations?

Also he said I had to finance the car for at least 6 months. Doesn't need to be with them, just I can't come in with cash. Why would they say that?

On a good note, he did say the cost was MSRP- $500.00. Still don't think I'll take myself off MM's list.
Many here are on multiple lists and plan to take the first offer that comes up. Just make sure the deposit is refundable and get in writing.
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I don't know. I am actually really warming up to the MacMulkin guys. They seem to be straight shooters to me...
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Originally Posted by MacMulkin
Right now, allocation is being doled out to dealers on a quarterly basis. Not bi-weekly or monthly. And we have no control in how GM hands out the allocation. In three months, they might say allocation will go back to a monthly basis, or they could stay on a quarterly plan. There's no way to predict that.

If that "other" dealer told you they're getting 36 - now divide that by 3 which comes out to 12 orders per month.

Of course, it's totally your decision and if you would prefer to go with a dealer that wants to make you finance it for at least six months, that's up to you.

However, we'd be really bummed....you wouldn't get an awesome delivery experience...and we wouldn't get any warm fuzzies from you.
I think it's great that MM is active on this forum to debunk misinformation and provide advice. But moreover, it says to me that you are interested in and care about the content of the posts, a lot of which are posted by your customers. Just another feather in your cap as a FIRST CLASS dealer. That's why my 3rd Vette from you is hanging at 3400 with the shutdown. I visited MM yesterday as I am only 10 miles away.

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I don't know. I am actually really warming up to the MacMulkin guys. They seem to be straight shooters to me...
They absolutely are straight shooters. Best car buying experience I have ever had.
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I don't know. I am actually really warming up to the MacMulkin guys. They seem to be straight shooters to me...
We are, and I'm not just saying that because I work for them.

We're well aware of the games some dealerships play and we see the comments here in the forums. The Corvette is a dream car to many people and our customers are important to us. Like someone else posted in another thread, we prefer to have a customer for life rather than just for a sale. We have a saying: "when you buy a Corvette from us, you're not just another customer, you're a member of our Corvette family".

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Originally Posted by Italianfox
I think it's great that MM is active on this forum to debunk misinformation and provide advice. But moreover, it says to me that you are interested in and care about the content of the posts, a lot of which are posted by your customers. Just another feather in your cap as a FIRST CLASS dealer. That's why my 3rd Vette from you is hanging at 3400 with the shutdown. I visited MM yesterday as I am only 10 miles away.
And you got some really awesome shots in the showroom yesterday as the sun was low in the sky and coming in through the windows!
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Its called a quid pro quo, we will give you a discount on the car if you finance through GM. Dont like it dont do it. Hardly makes the dealer shady. GM pays a bird dog on the financing, if the buyer pays the note off prior to "seasoning" 90-120 days, they can and will charge back the fees paid for placing the loan with them. Again, nothing shady, just another tool in the box.

I have been in the car business for 30 years, these are effective tools to get everyday buyers into cars they need and want. I am sure MM, faced with a deal walking over a few $'s in payment may well offer a similar option. Not all do, and he/they can say or not say if they participate, but I will tell you, if they do not, they are in very small minority.

It may be infrequent on Corvette purchases, but for the rest of the Chevy product line, very common practice.
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We are, and I'm not just saying that because I work for them.

We're well aware of the games some dealerships play and we see the comments here in the forums. The Corvette is a dream car to many people and our customers are important to us. Like someone else posted in another thread, we prefer to have a customer for life rather than just for a sale. We have a saying: "when you buy a Corvette from us, you're not just another customer, you're a member of our Corvette family".
Living in WA State, I am working with MM because of their sterling reputation and no nonsense approach. I’m doing a NCM delivery if I can get delivery before Fall — #599 now. Based on another post that MM is expecting ~ 120 allocations/mo for Feb, Mar & Apr, I might see an allocation in May/June, assuming production continues without more interruptions. BTW, have friends who are also on the MM list too!
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Originally Posted by Ophthos
A local dealer called me (nephew of a friend of mine) who said I can go on his list. Not gonna do it since I'm on Macmulkins list already. Dealer said he got his 36 allocation and I would be #2 on his new list for the "next set of allocations". That dealer in 2019 got 60 allocations for the year. The salesman also said they deliver about 7 cars a month.

Question, I thought they were given out monthly? I doubt that 36 is their monthly allocations. Dealer said, being #2 on their list would get me my car in about 9 months. Still longer than my expected time with MacMulkin. Is it possible to get bi-yearly allocations?

Also he said I had to finance the car for at least 6 months. Doesn't need to be with them, just I can't come in with cash. Why would they say that?

On a good note, he did say the cost was MSRP- $500.00. Still don't think I'll take myself off MM's list.

They are getting a kick back from the bank that they use, and it is totally not enforceable. You can buy from them and immediately turn around and pay it off or refinance. They will lose their kick back from the financing.
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They are getting a kick back from the bank that they use, and it is totally not enforceable. You can buy from them and immediately turn around and pay it off or refinance. They will lose their kick back from the financing.
I have done this a few times when buying a new car or truck. Dealer or auto manufacture will reduce the price of the car $1500 or so to make it worth your while. They will ask you to make 3 or so payments, then you can pay off the loan. I pay the loan off on the 4th month, so the buyer pays interest on the loan for three months. Banks make a little money on the interest, dealer gets a kick back from the bank and the buyer gets a discount on the purchase. A win win win! Repeat this process for multiple deals and you can see how this becomes very profitable.
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Originally Posted by MacMulkin
Right now, allocation is being doled out to dealers on a quarterly basis. Not bi-weekly or monthly. And we have no control in how GM hands out the allocation. In three months, they might say allocation will go back to a monthly basis, or they could stay on a quarterly plan. There's no way to predict that.

If that "other" dealer told you they're getting 36 - now divide that by 3 which comes out to 12 orders per month.

Of course, it's totally your decision and if you would prefer to go with a dealer that wants to make you finance it for at least six months, that's up to you.

However, we'd be really bummed....you wouldn't get an awesome delivery experience...and we wouldn't get any warm fuzzies from you.
You will not be bummed. I'm sticking with you guys and I'll give you all the warm fuzzies you can handle!
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