Here is a link to a 2016 press release from GM:

https://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/...Cadillac%20XLR

It says:
"General Motors supports the voluntary industry safety agreement that would lead to making forward collision alert and automatic emergency braking standard on virtually all new light vehicles by 2022."

To me "virtually" means some very rare exceptions. I don't think Corvette would fall into this category.

But one could question what they mean by "new". 2022 model year vehicles or new design vehicles 2022 and beyond?

And with the COVID environment they might do some backpedaling since it is a commitment but not a requirement.

 

Having driven a hire car in Europe with these features they are fantastic, the radar cruise was well sorted. Trucks wandering slightly into our lane activated the radar cruise to slow, which was totally warranted.

I would like AEB and radar cruise available when I get my C8, there are many distractions in today's world. As long as there is the ability for those that don't want these features to disable or limit them it's a best of both worlds.

I doubt anyone can say they have never been distracted, be it a woman in sexy short skirt then you notice everyone has stopped !!
Consider it peace of mind, there are too many nose to tail incidents on the roads...

 

All these years I never used cruise control because I never figured out where to put my right foot. As for the auto braking, great! I will have less worry over some dumba** rear ending me while texting.

 

Totally agree. I wish my 2021 had these features.

 

We have all of these features in my wife's '20 Grand Cherokee and every single one is set to off. Thankfully they were optional pkgs on the '22 Wrangler we have ordered, and I did not select any of them. What these systems do is condition the driver to not pay attention as they would if the systems were not in place. If I know my side mirrors will light up when a vehicle is next to me, I am conditioned to not check my mirrors as often; if I know the vehicle will slow/stop for me if I get to close to the vehicle in front of me, I am conditioned to not pay attention to following distances; and the list goes on with each "safety" feature. Personally, I ensure my side mirrors are set correctly to remove any blind spots, and I focus my attention on driving when I am behind the wheel of a 3,000+ vehicle.

Sit in a parking lot one day and watch drivers try to back into spaces using their back up cameras instead of looking behind them. It's comical. The addition of a camera has diminished driver skill on a pretty simple task.

 

I have no problem adding these features if they can be disabled... personally, I find the most effective driver safety system as an alert driver who is situationally aware... but I'm a 90% type of person.

However, I have blind-sport alert on my wife's BMW... although I set the mirrors correctly, my wife does not, and when I try to tell her how to do it, she screams at me... so having this feature in heavy commuter traffic is very useful.... for both of us.

However, I'm very skeptical about AEB... it takes too much judgement out of a task the driver should be responsible for... honestly, a person pulling into in intersection while texting, AEB will not save them anyway... tragic, but so is a Heroin Overdose... self-inflicted wound.

I've followed Autonomous Driving car technology for quite while, and frankly, its a technology looking to a non-existent problem to solve... just because you CAN do something does not mean you SHOULD do it...

The tragic 737 crash was directly caused by over-reliance on automatic flight systems, poor training of pilots and miscommunication between Boeing and the airline... its a two edged sword.

As a society we are in an unprecedented situation where we have to negotiate a new "Social Contract" with technology... social norms have trailed technological change, and we have not developed consensus behaviors on how to interact with them... maybe we never will, but its a huge challenge...

 

It is likely the 2023's will have AEB:
https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/12...gency-braking/
Yes, I know some people think Corvette will get a pass because the wording says "virtually all", "nearly all" etc. But I think that wording is being reserved for unusual circumstances.

Initially, I was thinking that meant it would be likely to get Adaptive Cruise Control also. But my understanding is that GM uses a camera based AEB which isn't used for ACC (but I don't know).

 

If the AEB is set up by the SCCA and not by the NHTSA Karens or if it could be turned off, I would be OK with that. I have used the Karen system and if that shows up on the Corvette and cannot be turned off, the car is not of any interest to me anymore.

 

I don't see how they could call it a track capable car and not allow you tor turn it off. At the worst, they might tie it to certain modes.

 

I have a '19 Camry as my daily drive with all of the nannies. Love adaptive cruise control and use it all the time. Auto braking works very well, no false braking and NEVER slams on the brakes as some have said. Lane departure is OK. I am not a fan of it but keep it on. Both auto braking and lane departure are designed to prevent distracted driving accidents. Both have been useful from my driving experience.

I don't understand how having these features would diminish the corvette experience. For those that think so are you saying that you have never been distracted when driving? I wish could have gotten these on my '22 vette.

 

Thank God I got one before they add this stupid crap. It's a 2 seater performance sports car not a breeder SUV/sedan. It does not need AEB adaptive cruise or lane departure. If you're driving a car like this so complacently that you need nannies that severe, you should consider trading it in on said sedan or SUV.

Not directing this post at any specific user. Just my general opinion on these intrusive nannies that add no value but increase cost (and chip requirements).

 

ACC is great for those boring 4 hour rural interstate trips where the CA drivers go 85 and then slow to 65 to pass tractor trailer rigs. Using cruise control or ACC doesn't mean you do not pay attention, you still need to signal lane changes and plan passes so others can move smoothly with the traffic, too. I would like ACC on a C8, but I do road course events and would want to be able to easily shut off "helpers" that I would not want on the track.

My HCI C6Z has normal cruise control and I use it for much of the 90-mile run at the Silver State Challenge in the 150 MPH class. Using the speed adjustment on CC that changes up or down by 1 MPH increments helps me to get within 0.25 seconds of the 36:00.0000 target time for the 90 miles. FYI, C6 cruise control only works properly up to 157 MPH. At 158 MPH and above if you try to go on cruise control, it just keeps climbing.I think they fixed that on the C7s

We have a 2018 Accord and a 2019 Forester that have AEB and lane departure control. On both I have had them apply the brakes so hard that I had to get on the gas so the car behind did not rear end me. This usually happens when a car ahead is turning onto a side road and I would easily go by without contact. Lane departure on each is Ok occasionally, but not generally ready for prime time.

 

I put my deposit down 13 months ago and just got my LT2 C8 a couple of days ago. I was not aware that the c8 does not come with ACC. I have it my subaru and wife's volvo and love this feature. I drive 18,000 highway miles a year and was planning on using my c8 as a near daily driver. However, without the safety feature of ACC, I will probably stick with my 2021 subaru. As an aside. both the volvo and c8 infortainment systems are not particularly intuitive, imo. The subaru infotainment is the most inutitive I have encountered.

 

It's not "required." It's a voluntary commitment by auto manufacturers to equip "most" of their cars with it. Tadge said last year the C8 would require a front end redesign to include it, so i'd be surprised if the C8 is part of "most."

 

Yep wife has had autobrake on her last 3 BMW X5 SUVs. No need for me on the Vette as I pay attention when driving! Have my iPhone set to not receive calls or text message beeps when I'm driving. Don't have Blue Tooth connected so I won't be tempted to use it! If ever needed I'd stop and park! Fact is I need all my attention today on the distracted folks using theirs to keep my 62 year record of never having an accident with another car (and continued luck!) And I do drive aggressively BUT always aware of all cars around me at all times.

However I'm all for everyone else having it so I don't get rear ended! In fact my MO when I come to a Red light is to slow to a crawl well before the car in front to make whoever is behind do the same! In SC you can actually text or whatever IF stopped. I see may folks approaching a light with their cell phone on the top of the steering wheel thumbs going a mile a minute. They can't wait to stop. Some AH will sit there finishing a stupid text message when the light turns green! Nope text messages do not control my life!

Recall one instance with the wife's prior BMW SUV, a 2018. Was someone following closely behind when I was in the left lane of a two lane highway. Lots of traffic and as I always do when someone is on my bumper, I move over (let them hit someone else!) I accelerated and pulled in behind a car on the right but my foot was not on the brake so the the car applied the brake. It left less room for the car behind me than than I would have. Now have learned, if I am accelerating pulling to the right have my left foot lightly on the brake pedal and it will NOT apply the brakes! Nope I'll control gaps!

 

I believe he was referring to Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC).

 

Sorry!

Don't like that either on the wife's SUV! In fact her 2018 had lane warning by vibrating the steering wheel BUT the 2021 has Lane Keeping which I don't use. BUT stuck with adaptive cruise control when I use cruise control! Good example where it is a PIA is on the relatively new highway I take that goes around town on the East side. It's two lane with a number of interesting streets. So when someone is turning right and no traffic coming in the other lane I'd get close before braking and if for whatever reason they stopped, just move to the opposite side lane. Nope it brakes and leaves a gap. I tap the brake to shut it off and go my thing!

I think that commercial where they are clapping (including the driver) as the pass a car on a bridge is terrible! What are we teaching folks to do! Remined of the Managing Director of our German Company. We had to buy him a new Mercedes each year with the biggest "special engine" as part of his compensation package. He drove with his foot to the floor. Was proud he could get anywhere in Germany faster than flying. One day as we were going his typical 250 km/hr, which he remined you he was doing! I asked what happens to that car in the right lane when they pull in our lane to pass the truck they are behind? He said they don't last long and was serious! Yep, I guess Dawin's survival of the fittest works!