Laser Jammers on C8?
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Laser Jammers on C8?
Anybody run them and have any tales to tell? Done some research, Vortex Radar (huge presence on web and You Tube) suggests ALP. Talked to local installers, claim ALP is crap and that they suspect Vortex must be getting a kickback. They suggest Escort jammers. Not sure whom to believe or whether jammers would work well on a C8. Searched other threads on forum and info either old or not very informative. If you run them, how many do you run and where do you place them on your C8?
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Mar 27, 2021, 03:03 PM
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Burning Brakes
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I installed ALP on another car on the advice of the RD Forum (https://www.rdforum.org/) and the views of others experienced with laser jammers. Big expense though. Think I spent around $2000 for front and rear. Probably never should have done it as I live in NY State and laser isn't used much. However, MA, which I pass through often, makes big time use of them. Have had the jammers installed for about 18 months and they've only gone off once in 6,000 miles of driving. I consider them an inexpensive insurance policy.
Last edited by fpfaeth; Mar 27, 2021 at 07:27 PM.
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My impression is that Vortex Radar knows what he is talking about and is a straight shooter. As mentioned above, rdforum.org has a lot of good information. Most of the other sites will try to steer you to what they sell.
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Jammers are not legal in Texas so I am just running a radar detector and Waze. To shoot laser, the Officer has to be stationary, so hopefully someone will have reported him on Waze. I don’t drive crazy fast anyways.
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Probably unlike most C8 owners, I hope to use the HTC as a GT car and travel extensively in it all over the USA, and will quickly rack up the miles. With the cookie jar right in front of me, I feel I may frequently become tempted by the speed gods, and am just trying to figure out how to stay out of trouble. Any other advice besides “just obey the speed limits” is most appreciated.
I should have my new stealth torch red car next week . . .
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From what I have heard, most penalties in most states are minimal if caught with laser jammers. Supposedly you would only receive a ticket for a non-moving violation and no points. However, if you get caught speeding, then you could have a greater monetary fine, points against your license, and potentially higher insurance rates. I am not sure how true this all is, but if so it might be worth the price of installing the jammers.
Probably unlike most C8 owners, I hope to use the HTC as a GT car and travel extensively in it all over the USA, and will quickly rack up the miles. With the cookie jar right in front of me, I feel I may frequently become tempted by the speed gods, and am just trying to figure out how to stay out of trouble. Any other advice besides “just obey the speed limits” is most appreciated.
I should have my new stealth torch red car next week . . .
Probably unlike most C8 owners, I hope to use the HTC as a GT car and travel extensively in it all over the USA, and will quickly rack up the miles. With the cookie jar right in front of me, I feel I may frequently become tempted by the speed gods, and am just trying to figure out how to stay out of trouble. Any other advice besides “just obey the speed limits” is most appreciated.
I should have my new stealth torch red car next week . . .
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Places that have 3 important properties::
a) Nobody is coming in your direction
b) There is nothing to hit should you leave the road
c) if something happens the ambulance is 30 seconds away not 30 minutes away
Public thoroughfares are not amongst those places.
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First, let's be honest here. Most of the people that buy a C8 aren't going to be going the speed limit 100% of the time.
I get similar comments about using a radar detector from people who assume that because I use a radar detector I must drive like a maniac. Similar to someone assuming that since someone wants to mount a cell phone they must use it irresponsibly (really? leave the phone at home? how would most people feel about being in a disabled vehicle in the middle of the night in an unfamiliar area without a cell phone?).
Do you always do the speed limit even if the flow of traffic is going 5 -10 mph faster than the speed limit?
I mainly use the radar detector for situational awareness. There are grey areas and some times when it is not practical to follow the letter of the law so it is up to the discretion of the officer. I'd rather know if there are LEOs around if possible and avoid the conversation entirely. Some examples:
You're driving with the flow of traffic. A LEO isn't comfortable with the speed (or is having a bad day or needs to fill a quota) and decides to pull someone over. The shiny new corvette will make a good example.
In California they passed a law that you have to give a bicycle 3 feet of clearance when going around them however it is still illegal to put 2 wheels over a double yellow line to do this. I live in a rural mountainous area and bicyclists like to come out here to challenge themselves. It is impractical and dangerous to wait for a turnout or dashed line to do this. Impractical because it can be miles on a winding road before there are legal passing areas and dangerous because people behind me would resort to crazy things to get around both me and the bicycle.
It is illegal to exceed the posted speed limit when passing but many times it is safer to exceed the speed limit to get around a vehicle and back into your lane to give margin for an upcoming corner.
The legal speed limit is 55 mph on roads where a speed limit is not posted (at least in California). There are a lot of winding roads where I live that can be a blast and still stay within the speed limit. But a LEO might not like the way I'm driving.
Like they say, the best way to improve your driving is to have a cop behind you. In the examples above, if my radar detector is telling me there is a LEO around I'm going to obey the letter of the law and stay out of the grey areas.
I get similar comments about using a radar detector from people who assume that because I use a radar detector I must drive like a maniac. Similar to someone assuming that since someone wants to mount a cell phone they must use it irresponsibly (really? leave the phone at home? how would most people feel about being in a disabled vehicle in the middle of the night in an unfamiliar area without a cell phone?).
Do you always do the speed limit even if the flow of traffic is going 5 -10 mph faster than the speed limit?
I mainly use the radar detector for situational awareness. There are grey areas and some times when it is not practical to follow the letter of the law so it is up to the discretion of the officer. I'd rather know if there are LEOs around if possible and avoid the conversation entirely. Some examples:
You're driving with the flow of traffic. A LEO isn't comfortable with the speed (or is having a bad day or needs to fill a quota) and decides to pull someone over. The shiny new corvette will make a good example.
In California they passed a law that you have to give a bicycle 3 feet of clearance when going around them however it is still illegal to put 2 wheels over a double yellow line to do this. I live in a rural mountainous area and bicyclists like to come out here to challenge themselves. It is impractical and dangerous to wait for a turnout or dashed line to do this. Impractical because it can be miles on a winding road before there are legal passing areas and dangerous because people behind me would resort to crazy things to get around both me and the bicycle.
It is illegal to exceed the posted speed limit when passing but many times it is safer to exceed the speed limit to get around a vehicle and back into your lane to give margin for an upcoming corner.
The legal speed limit is 55 mph on roads where a speed limit is not posted (at least in California). There are a lot of winding roads where I live that can be a blast and still stay within the speed limit. But a LEO might not like the way I'm driving.
Like they say, the best way to improve your driving is to have a cop behind you. In the examples above, if my radar detector is telling me there is a LEO around I'm going to obey the letter of the law and stay out of the grey areas.
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There places where you can run you car at its highest performance levels SAFELY !!
Places that have 3 important properties::
a) Nobody is coming in your direction
b) There is nothing to hit should you leave the road
c) if something happens the ambulance is 30 seconds away not 30 minutes away
Public thoroughfares are not amongst those places.
Places that have 3 important properties::
a) Nobody is coming in your direction
b) There is nothing to hit should you leave the road
c) if something happens the ambulance is 30 seconds away not 30 minutes away
Public thoroughfares are not amongst those places.
I used to have a poster in my dorm room in college with a sailing ship on it. The caption below it read: “A ship in a harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for”. What is your Corvette built for? Only for tracks? Alas, 95% of us will never track our cars!
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I’ll co-sign your bad idea, buy the laser jammer it’s for safety and for the safety of cyclists and children !! Think of the Children. It fights terror and I’m sure it works perfectly too lol Should also get an oil slick and a smoke screen.
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Do you know of any aftermarket suppliers where we can purchase our new “oil slick and a smoke Screen”? Perhaps you might also know what their install costs and warranties are? Maybe we can do a group buy!
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I bought the car because it is a Game Changer! Damn fine piece of machinery that I am capable of appreciating and enjoy when I want to. This doesn't give me license to act like an idiot though. Plenty of opportunities to use the vehicle as intended legally and a few (tracks ...) to its limits as I so choose. It's nice not to have to slow down to turn.
On point though, jamming is for ..... detectors are to let you know that many times an uninformed or attentive.... may consider you the perp when you are not so move over and be quiet.
On point though, jamming is for ..... detectors are to let you know that many times an uninformed or attentive.... may consider you the perp when you are not so move over and be quiet.
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If you purposely drive in a reckless manner on public roads you deserve what you get.
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I don’t often agree with the Magic one but in this instance I concur. I don’t stick to the posted limits but I also don’t drive in a manner that I require a laser jammer. If you want to go 194 mph go to a safe area (race track) and have at it. My hat is off to you.
If you purposely drive in a reckless manner on public roads you deserve what you get.
If you purposely drive in a reckless manner on public roads you deserve what you get.
