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Old Jul 10, 2023 | 12:01 PM
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The proper way to "retorque" a lug nut is to loosen ALL the lug nuts. Retighten finger tight and then torque to spec in a "star" pattern.
100% correct! To properly torque you must loosen first....
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Old Jul 10, 2023 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Szabol
140 Newton - meters
Newton meters not same as ft. Lbs. Ron Fellows also told us 140 ft lbs for general use.
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Old Jul 10, 2023 | 12:28 PM
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Correct, it's 140 ft. lbs. which would be 189.8 Newton meters.

https://www.omnicalculator.com/conversion/nm-to-ft-lb
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Old Jul 10, 2023 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RKCRLR
That would result in under torqued lug nuts.
Yep. A newton-meter is not equal to a foot-pound of torque!!
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Old Jul 10, 2023 | 02:32 PM
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140 nm is 100 ft lbs
that's for a C7 but that's been the way since the C4....

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Old Jul 10, 2023 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Szabol
140 nm is 100 ft lbs
that's for a C7 but that's been the way since the C4....
But, it changed dramatically for C8. Screen shot from 2022 owner's manual below. Note "wheel nut torque" spec.


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Old Jul 10, 2023 | 03:17 PM
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https://www.chevymanuals.org/2022-ch...owners-manual/

I have been corrected. Wow they jacked that number!
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Old Jul 10, 2023 | 05:35 PM
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140 ft lb seems a lot compared to my 09 Viper which is 90 ft lbs.
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The torque spec is the required force to overcome the systems friction. If the angle of the seat or thread diameter, etc has changed then the spec will change to net the same clamping force. If better materials or larger fasteners are used the engineers may increase the spec to increase the clamping force.
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Originally Posted by Foosh
But, it changed dramatically for C8. Screen shot from 2022 owner's manual below. Note "wheel nut torque" spec.

If I remember correctly, the stud bolt increased from M12 to M14. My 2010 Caddie CTS Sport Wagon was also 140 ft-lb.
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I just took my wheels off to ceramic coat them with C5 Gtechniq. Apparently the last person to work on my wheels (the Chev dealer) thought that using an impact set to 200 ft lbs was a good idea!
I had to use an impact to get two wheels off and by the time the lug nuts started to budge they were already quite hot.

When I go back, I will have to talk with the service manager.
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Originally Posted by Szabol
140 Newton - meters
Being Chair of our Tech Societies SI Practices Committee (was Metric now System Intenational) could not let it pass without being exact! 140 Newton Meters is only 103 ft-lbs. Spec is 140 ft-lbs. That is 190 Newton Meters (Nm) rounded to the proper (not excessive) signific figures as intended! By the way N is capitalized because it is a person's name; the guy with the apple falling from a tree (like W for electric power named for James Watt!)

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Originally Posted by JerryU
…….By the way N is capitalized because it is a person's name; the guy with the apple falling from a tree (like W for electric power named for James Watt!)
As in Sir Issac Newton!! He was at Westminster Abbey last time I visited him.
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Originally Posted by GOLD72
As in Sir Issac Newton!! He was at Westminster Abbey last time I visited him.
Ah, were you with our Pres and his Corvette???
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Originally Posted by JerryU
Being Chair of our Tech Societies SI Practices Committee (was Metric now System Intenational) could not let it pass without being exact! 140 Newton Meters is only 103 ft-lbs. Spec is 140 ft-lbs. That is 190 Newton Meters (Nm) rounded to the proper (not excessive) signific figures as intended! By the way N is capitalized because it is a person's name; the guy with the apple falling from a tree (like W for electric power named for James Watt!)
Yes, the person who cited the 140 N-m figure thought that was correct because it had been 100 ft lbs. on Corvettes since at least C4 days. He didn't realize the number had been substantially increased for C8, and I suspect it's because he is not a C8 owner.
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Old Jul 11, 2023 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Szabol
https://www.chevymanuals.org/2022-ch...owners-manual/

I have been corrected. Wow they jacked that number!
Tadge said it's because with the mid-engine layout (and the LT2), the car can put much more torque through the rear wheels to the ground. And they used the same spec on the front just to keep things consistent. That's also why the went from 12mm to 14mm lugs.
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Old Jul 11, 2023 | 03:54 PM
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Interestingly enough my 05 Porsche turbo is 90 ft lbs. How do we know if the torque wrench is correct? Is there a proper way to test a torque wrench to determine if it is calibrated properly.
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Old Jul 11, 2023 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryU
Being Chair of our Tech Societies SI Practices Committee (was Metric now System Intenational) could not let it pass without being exact! 140 Newton Meters is only 103 ft-lbs. Spec is 140 ft-lbs. That is 190 Newton Meters (Nm) rounded to the proper (not excessive) signific figures as intended! By the way N is capitalized because it is a person's name; the guy with the apple falling from a tree (like W for electric power named for James Watt!)
It's lb ft Jerry. If you're going to be exact you might as well use the right unit.
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Interestingly enough my 05 Porsche turbo is 90 ft lbs. How do we know if the torque wrench is correct? Is there a proper way to test a torque wrench to determine if it is calibrated properly.
You can find a place that will let you use their calibration meter or send it in for calibration. You can do it yourself by clamping the socket drive in a bench vise with the handle horizontal and hang a known weight off the middle of the grip. Torque is the distance from the middle of the socket drive to where the weight is hung times the weight. Use a weight that gets you close to the torque value that you want to verify.
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Originally Posted by dohabandit
Apparently the last person to work on my wheels (the Chev dealer) thought that using an impact set to 200 ft lbs was a good idea!
I had to use an impact to get two wheels off and by the time the lug nuts started to budge they were already quite hot.
When I go back, I will have to talk with the service manager.
My dealer got exactly one lug nut per wheel correctly torqued, all others were very loose or too tight.
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