theft deterence?
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May 30, 2021, 08:12 PM
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You living back in the 80’s. The car comes more than enough theft deterrents. Inclination sensors, motion sensors, you can’t run a slimjim through the door as the latch is on the body. The car starts via a wireless key fob signal, the whole thing can be shutdown by Onstar. Then of course you have insurance.
Or it’s time to move to a better neighborhood.
Or it’s time to move to a better neighborhood.
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Hmm, have not heard those things on the Corvette Forum forever!
I had (still have but don't use) a steering wheel lock I used on my 1988 and 1993 Vettes. Thought it was a deterrent for non professional thieves. Would turn the wheels full lock before I installed. I like that it had a bright colored handle that could been seen from the windshield. Frankly the system that comes with the 2LT and 3LT is good enough for me. Heck it beeps and warns when my suction cup held radar detector falls if parked facing the sun on a 100 degree day! I have a thin stainless steel wire tether installed that supports it when it happens. I find it hanging from the windshield top frame and a dash warning showing the interior was breached! The alarm also trips if the car is bumped or lifted.
Recall adding a "kill switch" on my 1st new car, a 1967, I often parked at an airport. Installed an inline fuse in the power wire that went distributor and a toggle switch I put in the glove compartment that was a ground to that same wire. If you tried to start the car with the toggle in the "kill position" it blew the fuse. Car cranked. lights lit but would not start. I recall blowing that fuse several times coming home on a late flight and forgetting to flip the toggle. Had a pack of fuses in another spot and recall the PIA having to raise the hood and replace the fuse!
Note I thought my approach was better than the common method used (and I watch people use) which was to remove the distributor rotor. Problem was many thief's knew of that trick and for a targeted car had a rotor to install! The other was the PIA if it was having to lift the hood, remove the distributor cap and install the rotor. My method, IF I remembered I had it armed, all done in the glove compartment. And when the thief removed the distributor cap thinking it may be missing the rotor - it was there!
Hmm, have not heard those things on the Corvette Forum forever!
I had (still have but don't use) a steering wheel lock I used on my 1988 and 1993 Vettes. Thought it was a deterrent for non professional thieves. Would turn the wheels full lock before I installed. I like that it had a bright colored handle that could been seen from the windshield. Frankly the system that comes with the 2LT and 3LT is good enough for me. Heck it beeps and warns when my suction cup held radar detector falls if parked facing the sun on a 100 degree day! I have a thin stainless steel wire tether installed that supports it when it happens. I find it hanging from the windshield top frame and a dash warning showing the interior was breached! The alarm also trips if the car is bumped or lifted.
Recall adding a "kill switch" on my 1st new car, a 1967, I often parked at an airport. Installed an inline fuse in the power wire that went distributor and a toggle switch I put in the glove compartment that was a ground to that same wire. If you tried to start the car with the toggle in the "kill position" it blew the fuse. Car cranked. lights lit but would not start. I recall blowing that fuse several times coming home on a late flight and forgetting to flip the toggle. Had a pack of fuses in another spot and recall the PIA having to raise the hood and replace the fuse!
Note I thought my approach was better than the common method used (and I watch people use) which was to remove the distributor rotor. Problem was many thief's knew of that trick and for a targeted car had a rotor to install! The other was the PIA if it was having to lift the hood, remove the distributor cap and install the rotor. My method, IF I remembered I had it armed, all done in the glove compartment. And when the thief removed the distributor cap thinking it may be missing the rotor - it was there!
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You living back in the 80’s. The car comes more than enough theft deterrents. Inclination sensors, motion sensors, you can’t run a slimjim through the door as the latch is on the body. The car starts via a wireless key fob signal, the whole thing can be shutdown by Onstar. Then of course you have insurance.
Or it’s time to move to a better neighborhood.
Or it’s time to move to a better neighborhood.
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Get a manual transmission. (I know, I know- being tongue in cheek.) 90% of car jackers have no idea how to drive such a thing. Maybe 99% ? But when they get pissed off, they’ll probably shoot you for their ignorance.
God speed. (I am in the same boat.)
Poop, JD, I missed your post. But it is so true.
God speed. (I am in the same boat.)
Poop, JD, I missed your post. But it is so true.
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A steering wheel lock is useless, because the steering wheel is plastic. They'll cut through it in 30 seconds and remove the lock
A wheel clamp, IF it covers the lug nuts, is a lot harder to remove, and car thieves want to be quick, in and out, so they'll be more likely to just walk on and find an easier target. Unless, as has been mentioned, they have a tow truck. If they do, they'll get pretty much whatever they want.
Alarms, built in or otherwise, are worthless unless you are close enough to hear it. No one else will pay any attention to it.
A wheel clamp, IF it covers the lug nuts, is a lot harder to remove, and car thieves want to be quick, in and out, so they'll be more likely to just walk on and find an easier target. Unless, as has been mentioned, they have a tow truck. If they do, they'll get pretty much whatever they want.
Alarms, built in or otherwise, are worthless unless you are close enough to hear it. No one else will pay any attention to it.
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Corvettes are rarely stolen without the thief having a correct FOB/Key obtained from a dealer accomplice or being towed away on a flat bed. Towing away works very well because bystanders will actually help a tow truck driver get the car on the truck even though the alarm is blaring away. They assume something has failed on the car and the tow truck operator has permission to take the car even though the alarm is sounding off. If you look like you belong and appear to be doing what everybody thinks is OK you can steal just about anything.
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Recall there were ~8 bikes stolen during Bike Week from a motel in Myrtle Beach. They were all chained together. The police thought, as thief's have done with rare cars stolen from motels during Run for the Sun Car Show. They have a covered truck with fold down ramp. With a large winch back in the truck quickly pulled-in all bikes still chained together, close the ramp/door and are off with no visible evidence!
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They literally teach you this in the concealed weapons class.
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The instructor was a former police officer. He proposed a hypothetical that I found interesting. He said if Mike Tyson is outside and you recognize who he is and says, “I’m going to kill you” but has no weapon, is it legal to shot him? He said guys should think twice if he is capable of killing you? For the gals, no question shot!
SIDEBAR
The other thing I recall is he went around the room and asked why you wanted a concealed carry permit. Most just said simply security. We had a number of women who worked in our two large hospitals often at night. This one young gal went on for some time telling us about this boyfriend who threatened her etc! On the day for our shooting test 4 each we were placed side by side with full size silhouette targets in front. I was placed next to her. The officer assisting with the test had to show her how to hold the 357 Magnum she brought and never fired! Recall he had to remind her not to have her finger on the trigger until pointed at the target and ready to fire. I was concerned that one of her bullets might hit me!
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Laws vary by state. We do require a permit to carry in SC. Recall in my training it was also dependent on who you are as well as the assailant if you'll probably be charged or acquitted for shooting someone! In theory in SC you can only use deadly force if you feel your life is threatened (or if the thief is in your home, which for SC is threatening your life. With my attached garage best not get caught messing with my C8 or Street Rod!) We had about 30 folks in the ~6 hours lecture, video’s and similar time hitting target’s to achieve the required percentage hits from various distances. About half were women.
The instructor was a former police officer. He proposed a hypothetical that I found interesting. He said if Mike Tyson is outside and you recognize who he is and says, “I’m going to kill you” but has no weapon, is it legal to shot him? He said guys should think twice if he is capable of killing you? For the gals, no question shot!
SIDEBAR
The other thing I recall is he went around the room and asked why you wanted a concealed carry permit. Most just said simply security. We had a number of women who worked in our two large hospitals often at night. This one young gal went on for some time telling us about this boyfriend who threatened her etc! On the day for our shooting test 4 each we were placed side by side with full size silhouette targets in front. I was placed next to her. The officer assisting with the test had to show her how to hold the 357 Magnum she brought and never fired! Recall he had to remind her not to have her finger on the trigger until pointed at the target and ready to fire. I was concerned that one of her bullets might hit me!
The instructor was a former police officer. He proposed a hypothetical that I found interesting. He said if Mike Tyson is outside and you recognize who he is and says, “I’m going to kill you” but has no weapon, is it legal to shot him? He said guys should think twice if he is capable of killing you? For the gals, no question shot!
SIDEBAR
The other thing I recall is he went around the room and asked why you wanted a concealed carry permit. Most just said simply security. We had a number of women who worked in our two large hospitals often at night. This one young gal went on for some time telling us about this boyfriend who threatened her etc! On the day for our shooting test 4 each we were placed side by side with full size silhouette targets in front. I was placed next to her. The officer assisting with the test had to show her how to hold the 357 Magnum she brought and never fired! Recall he had to remind her not to have her finger on the trigger until pointed at the target and ready to fire. I was concerned that one of her bullets might hit me!
