GM Cancels June Allocation
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But as best I can figure this is a more automated way for GM to still reward the dealers that sell the most cars and turn them over the fastest. As long as the C8 is in such demand that 99% of orders are sold buyer orders, and not for dealer stock, I don't think it will make a lot of difference.
But for normal cars in normal times, a dealer that has a ton of unsold stock will get fewer allocations than a dealer with a similar sales volume with fewer cars on the lot.
Note that I could be interpreting this wrong, so don't bet the farm on my say so.
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Perhaps this might help. This was how the system used to work during the C6 days (not sure how this compares to now?)
1. Is there a specific day of the week when Chevrolet tells you what your allocation is or does the day you are informed vary?
The order week runs from Thursday to Tuesday. On Thursday, we learn what our allocation for the week is. We have until Tuesday to finalize orders. On Wednesday we get an update before starting the order week new again on Thursday. For example, today I learned we have 6 vettes to order this week to be placed by Tuesday. Yesterday I updated my website with orders from the weeks before.
2. After being notified is there a specific day which you are allowed to use the allocations?
We can start placing the orders for the week on Thursday but we have until Tuesday to finish. So we have that time frame in which we're allowed to use the allocation.
3. Does the dealer have a general idea several weeks or months in advance how many cars he will get allocated?
Yes, we have a general idea of the total number, just not the break down or the constraints.
4.Once the allocation is offered to you, do you have a specific amount of days to use your allocation or lose it?
Allocations given out on Thursday have to be used by Tuesday.
5.When you put a vehicle order in the system, and receive allocations, will your oldest orders automatically get filled (barring constraint issues) or does the system allow you to specify which car you want to use your allocation on?
You can order vettes two ways - for stock or sold. GM places a higher priority on vettes ordered as sold in a customers name.
6A. As a dealer why do you think other smaller dealers would not input orders into the GM system and not give out order numbers?
The vette allocation system is hard on smaller dealers. Think of it as getting your first job. You dont have experience so no one will hire you, but if no one hires you, how can you get a job? Its similar with allocation. GM will send you vettes if you can prove you can sell them, but how can you sell them if you dont have any? Dealers have to build up allocations over the years. Say a small dealer gets 25 vettes a year allocated. You would think they could take one from that number any time they get an order, but it doesnt work like that. GM tells the dealer when they can place the order, making it weeks & weeks or sometimes months before a vette order is acceptable. GM tries to spread out your allocation evenly throughout the year. The more vettes you're allocated, the more you get a week.
6B. Are they doing this to control their allocations to keep the oldest orders from getting built first?
The only reason I can think of for a dealer not giving you an order number is because they dont have it. They can place your order but the vette will sit at a 1100 status event code forever, meaning it is in the dealer's order system, but not accepted by GMs order system which is a 2500 status event code.
Example, if they are allocated two Verts and have two customer orders for Coupes, they don't want to "waste" the allocation on the customer's coupes, and instead put in two orders for Verts instead. So by waiting to put orders into the system they ensure they are in control of what vehicle gets ordered.
Vette model allocations differ from dealer to dealer. For example, we have 6 vettes this week, one of which is a vert. Lets say I have an order for 2 verts to fill, but only one allocated. But the dealer in your example has 2 verts allocated but has 2 coupe orders to fill. What will happen is that the dealer in your example places an order for his sold coupes, giving up his allocated verts & I place the orders for our sold verts, giving up our allocation for coupes. At this point it becomes a drop/add system. I drop the coupes, he picks them up & pick up his verts. It doesnt alsways work like that though, its the luck of the system, but it does happen. For example, the Z51 was on constraint heavily a few weeks ago. We didnt get any allocated, but I had orders for Z51, so I placed the orders in hope that another dealer who can order the Z51 wont need it. We were able to pick up two Z51s that week.
7. Are there any penalties within the GM system or any control over dealers which lie to the customers about their allocations to get an order placed and then string them along for weeks as they had no allocations but did not want to lose the sale? Or are they pretty much free to make up whatever they want?
There are no such penalties that I am aware of - caveat emptor. However, we cant order a vette in a customers name & then the customer not take delivery of that vette, that does hurt our allocation.
I hope that helps to clarify some of your questions. Let me know if you need further clarification & I will do the best I can. Bottom line is that you should ask your dealer what their vette allocation is. Find a dealer that will keep you up to date of your order so you're not worrying about it. Smaller allocated dealers will be a longer wait, there is no question about that.
The order week runs from Thursday to Tuesday. On Thursday, we learn what our allocation for the week is. We have until Tuesday to finalize orders. On Wednesday we get an update before starting the order week new again on Thursday. For example, today I learned we have 6 vettes to order this week to be placed by Tuesday. Yesterday I updated my website with orders from the weeks before.
2. After being notified is there a specific day which you are allowed to use the allocations?
We can start placing the orders for the week on Thursday but we have until Tuesday to finish. So we have that time frame in which we're allowed to use the allocation.
3. Does the dealer have a general idea several weeks or months in advance how many cars he will get allocated?
Yes, we have a general idea of the total number, just not the break down or the constraints.
4.Once the allocation is offered to you, do you have a specific amount of days to use your allocation or lose it?
Allocations given out on Thursday have to be used by Tuesday.
5.When you put a vehicle order in the system, and receive allocations, will your oldest orders automatically get filled (barring constraint issues) or does the system allow you to specify which car you want to use your allocation on?
You can order vettes two ways - for stock or sold. GM places a higher priority on vettes ordered as sold in a customers name.
6A. As a dealer why do you think other smaller dealers would not input orders into the GM system and not give out order numbers?
The vette allocation system is hard on smaller dealers. Think of it as getting your first job. You dont have experience so no one will hire you, but if no one hires you, how can you get a job? Its similar with allocation. GM will send you vettes if you can prove you can sell them, but how can you sell them if you dont have any? Dealers have to build up allocations over the years. Say a small dealer gets 25 vettes a year allocated. You would think they could take one from that number any time they get an order, but it doesnt work like that. GM tells the dealer when they can place the order, making it weeks & weeks or sometimes months before a vette order is acceptable. GM tries to spread out your allocation evenly throughout the year. The more vettes you're allocated, the more you get a week.
6B. Are they doing this to control their allocations to keep the oldest orders from getting built first?
The only reason I can think of for a dealer not giving you an order number is because they dont have it. They can place your order but the vette will sit at a 1100 status event code forever, meaning it is in the dealer's order system, but not accepted by GMs order system which is a 2500 status event code.
Example, if they are allocated two Verts and have two customer orders for Coupes, they don't want to "waste" the allocation on the customer's coupes, and instead put in two orders for Verts instead. So by waiting to put orders into the system they ensure they are in control of what vehicle gets ordered.
Vette model allocations differ from dealer to dealer. For example, we have 6 vettes this week, one of which is a vert. Lets say I have an order for 2 verts to fill, but only one allocated. But the dealer in your example has 2 verts allocated but has 2 coupe orders to fill. What will happen is that the dealer in your example places an order for his sold coupes, giving up his allocated verts & I place the orders for our sold verts, giving up our allocation for coupes. At this point it becomes a drop/add system. I drop the coupes, he picks them up & pick up his verts. It doesnt alsways work like that though, its the luck of the system, but it does happen. For example, the Z51 was on constraint heavily a few weeks ago. We didnt get any allocated, but I had orders for Z51, so I placed the orders in hope that another dealer who can order the Z51 wont need it. We were able to pick up two Z51s that week.
7. Are there any penalties within the GM system or any control over dealers which lie to the customers about their allocations to get an order placed and then string them along for weeks as they had no allocations but did not want to lose the sale? Or are they pretty much free to make up whatever they want?
There are no such penalties that I am aware of - caveat emptor. However, we cant order a vette in a customers name & then the customer not take delivery of that vette, that does hurt our allocation.
I hope that helps to clarify some of your questions. Let me know if you need further clarification & I will do the best I can. Bottom line is that you should ask your dealer what their vette allocation is. Find a dealer that will keep you up to date of your order so you're not worrying about it. Smaller allocated dealers will be a longer wait, there is no question about that.
First, I am not sure why someone would think that supporting dealer(s) wouldn't post answers to the questions proposed.
Second, the distribution system is very difficult to understand at times yet explain.
Third, let me try to answer the questions:
"1. Is there a specific day of the week when Chevrolet tells you what your allocation is or does the day you are informed vary?"
Every dealer knows one month in advance the number of allocations that they will receive by week for the next 4 weeks.
2. After being notified is there a specific day which you are allowed to use the allocations?
Actual allocations are generated to dealers on Thursday mornings and with those allocations a dealer can review the constraints and their share of the constraints.
3. Does the dealer have a general idea several weeks or months in advance how many cars he will get allocated?
A dealer can view their estimated shipments report at any time which clearly displays their allocation totals for the next 60 days of production.
4.Once the allocation is offered to you, do you have a specific amount of days to use your allocation or lose it?
Again, allocations are generated on Thursdays. The dealer has the ability to approve order requests that they have submitted within the allocation total and within the constraints on Thursday. If the dealer does not approve one of his orders or have orders which are not constrained in the system there is a chance that they will lose the allocation. The dealer can approve orders, change priorities, modify order requests on Thursday, Friday and Saturday. The system will not permit any further action by the dealer on Sunday and Monday. On Tuesday morning the dealer can view the order requests submitted and approved over the weekend. On Tuesday the dealer can modify approved order requests within the constraints. On Weds. the order requests approved on Tuesday can no longer be modified.
5.When you put a vehicle order in the system, and receive allocations, will your oldest orders automatically get filled (barring constraint issues) or does the system allow you to specify which car you want to use your allocation on?
The dealers order requests are approved by priority within the constraints imposed. For example:
Mr Smith, Convertible, Z51 Pkg Order, Priority 10
Mr Jones, Coupe, Z51 Pkg Order, Priority 11
Ms McCormick, Coupe Order, Priority 12
I always prioritize my order requests with the oldest order getting the lowest number and thus the first order to be placed within constraints.
Now, today, Thursday I have one allocation for a Corvette. Because of constraints Chevrolet is not giving me a Convertible nor are they giving me the Z51 pkg. Ms McCormick's order will be placeable and thus I will approve her order within my allocations and constraints. If I don't approve her order and the two orders with lower priorities are constrained, I might find myself without ANY Corvette orders approved next Tuesday! A dealer cannot afford to have non-buildable, constrained orders with the lowest priority and not move a buildable order up. The system will pass me by and move to another dealer and I might lose my allocation!
6A. As a dealer why do you think other smaller dealers would not input orders into the GM system and not give out order numbers?
Every certified Corvette dealer can input order requests sold or for stock. When it's their turn for an allocation their order requests will be approved within the allocation and constraints. It is our practice to have stock orders in the system ready for placement if all of our sold orders are constrained. Further, I always input my sold orders the same day that I make a deal with a customer. This is important so that my customer's are "price protected".
6B. Are they doing this to control their allocations to keep the oldest orders from getting built first?
I can't speak for other dealers but we always make sure that our oldest sold orders are produced first if they are unconstrained. If a constraint exists we always call our customers and give them the choice of amending their order request or waiting for the next allocation.
7. Are there any penalties within the GM system or any control over dealers which lie to the customers about their allocations to get an order placed and then string them along for weeks as they had no allocations but did not want to lose the sale? Or are they pretty much free to make up whatever they want?
No, there is not.
Let me offer this thought:
When you agree to place an order with a dealer, request to see the following reports:
1) Their estimated shipments report (you will then know what the dealer has for allocations for the next 60 days)
2) Their final placement by week report (you will then know the dates (Thursdays) on which the dealer will receive their allocations)
3) Their present preliminary order request report (you will then know how many orders are ahead of yours)
Second, the distribution system is very difficult to understand at times yet explain.
Third, let me try to answer the questions:
"1. Is there a specific day of the week when Chevrolet tells you what your allocation is or does the day you are informed vary?"
Every dealer knows one month in advance the number of allocations that they will receive by week for the next 4 weeks.
2. After being notified is there a specific day which you are allowed to use the allocations?
Actual allocations are generated to dealers on Thursday mornings and with those allocations a dealer can review the constraints and their share of the constraints.
3. Does the dealer have a general idea several weeks or months in advance how many cars he will get allocated?
A dealer can view their estimated shipments report at any time which clearly displays their allocation totals for the next 60 days of production.
4.Once the allocation is offered to you, do you have a specific amount of days to use your allocation or lose it?
Again, allocations are generated on Thursdays. The dealer has the ability to approve order requests that they have submitted within the allocation total and within the constraints on Thursday. If the dealer does not approve one of his orders or have orders which are not constrained in the system there is a chance that they will lose the allocation. The dealer can approve orders, change priorities, modify order requests on Thursday, Friday and Saturday. The system will not permit any further action by the dealer on Sunday and Monday. On Tuesday morning the dealer can view the order requests submitted and approved over the weekend. On Tuesday the dealer can modify approved order requests within the constraints. On Weds. the order requests approved on Tuesday can no longer be modified.
5.When you put a vehicle order in the system, and receive allocations, will your oldest orders automatically get filled (barring constraint issues) or does the system allow you to specify which car you want to use your allocation on?
The dealers order requests are approved by priority within the constraints imposed. For example:
Mr Smith, Convertible, Z51 Pkg Order, Priority 10
Mr Jones, Coupe, Z51 Pkg Order, Priority 11
Ms McCormick, Coupe Order, Priority 12
I always prioritize my order requests with the oldest order getting the lowest number and thus the first order to be placed within constraints.
Now, today, Thursday I have one allocation for a Corvette. Because of constraints Chevrolet is not giving me a Convertible nor are they giving me the Z51 pkg. Ms McCormick's order will be placeable and thus I will approve her order within my allocations and constraints. If I don't approve her order and the two orders with lower priorities are constrained, I might find myself without ANY Corvette orders approved next Tuesday! A dealer cannot afford to have non-buildable, constrained orders with the lowest priority and not move a buildable order up. The system will pass me by and move to another dealer and I might lose my allocation!
6A. As a dealer why do you think other smaller dealers would not input orders into the GM system and not give out order numbers?
Every certified Corvette dealer can input order requests sold or for stock. When it's their turn for an allocation their order requests will be approved within the allocation and constraints. It is our practice to have stock orders in the system ready for placement if all of our sold orders are constrained. Further, I always input my sold orders the same day that I make a deal with a customer. This is important so that my customer's are "price protected".
6B. Are they doing this to control their allocations to keep the oldest orders from getting built first?
I can't speak for other dealers but we always make sure that our oldest sold orders are produced first if they are unconstrained. If a constraint exists we always call our customers and give them the choice of amending their order request or waiting for the next allocation.
7. Are there any penalties within the GM system or any control over dealers which lie to the customers about their allocations to get an order placed and then string them along for weeks as they had no allocations but did not want to lose the sale? Or are they pretty much free to make up whatever they want?
No, there is not.
Let me offer this thought:
When you agree to place an order with a dealer, request to see the following reports:
1) Their estimated shipments report (you will then know what the dealer has for allocations for the next 60 days)
2) Their final placement by week report (you will then know the dates (Thursdays) on which the dealer will receive their allocations)
3) Their present preliminary order request report (you will then know how many orders are ahead of yours)
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I was supposed to get a June allocation with my dealer and I just called and got my $2500 deposit refunded. I will definitely own a C8 one day but am going in a different direction and should be getting the new car(s) next week. I live in New England and the reality is that I wasn’t going to see s C8 before winter and can always buy one in a year or two (or even a C8/E-ray or Z06).
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Right dealers will still have a list of people and deposit dates. For most people nothings changed except if you get bumped to a 2022 you are likely going to see a price increase and dealers get allocated cars differently.
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And then the question is when do 2022’s start production? September? October? Will there be a delay or stoppage again? ADS seem like an intentional thing to stop getting peoples hopes up on a specific monthly allocation. “You get the car when you get it and we make no promises.”
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A surprise only to those not reading between the lines for the last several months. 2020 was a turbulent year for C8 buyers and 2021 was destined to be as bad or worse. 2022 might be the year of stabilization…unless the economy collapses.
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Curiously, GM stock is riding (pun) up in the stock market at an all-time high at plus 63 and Wall Street loves them for their foresight and execution. Yet they are having so many issues now and transparency as to the current C8 shut downs is lacking.
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And then the question is when do 2022’s start production? September? October? Will there be a delay or stoppage again? ADS seem like an intentional thing to stop getting peoples hopes up on a specific monthly allocation. “You get the car when you get it and we make no promises.”
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One of the dealers that I am on their list has a monthly update that indicates... 2022 Visualizer June 9th, Order Guide June 28th, SOP September 6th, Build and Price tool September 6th...
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Contrary to Dealer and YouTuber false optimism this is ALL BAD
Contrary to what you guys may be hearing from dealers and Youtubers who also are helping sell cars - don’t have to name them because you know who I’m talking about - there is Zero positive news here. Zero.
In a nutshell, all 2021 orders are cancelled not at status 3000. So all those dealers telling you don’t worry, we still have more allocations coming - their intel was garbage. And it continues to be garbage. GM gave them no warning and now all these customers at 1100 who kept being told not to panic - well it’s time to panic.
And don’t be fooled by the, it’s unrelated to current chip shortage language somehow being positive too - how is THAT positive?!? It means the underlying transmission or production QC problem plaguing the 2021 cars hasn’t been sorted out and they are simply hoping it’s fixed before 2022 is supposed to begin - but there are no guarantees AND chips will now likely go to other vehicles as corvette production grinds to an end for 2021. If you think there is ANY reason to believe they now start on time for 2022, you’re feeding what they are serving you because you are starving.
Finally, the worst news of all is that controlled allocations are gone and now everyone is pumped into non-allocated delivery like every other car Chevy builds basically. This means your “spot” in line is bye bye and the dealership can now throw any customer in any spot. And as many dealers have customers first-in-line spots for 2022 allocations, those are now gone. Furthermore, GM simply tells affected 2021 customers to call their dealer and see what each dealer wants to do now that allocations are gone. Talk about being thrown to the wolves - there is zero guarantee you get a car before the 2022s already promised.
Finally, if you know anything about these scenarios, even when dealers now get order spots under this system, they would be given constraints which means that the persons who would ordinarily be at the front of the line may drop back significantly because of these. It will mean dealers are matching up deposits to order spots in a much less predictable manner. In a nutshell, first come first served is gone. And the dealers themselves will no longer be able to tell you with confidence when you’ll get your car. They will try to keep you on the line and keep you from giving up by telling you it’ll be soon - but in reality they won’t have a clue for sure when your order might be able to be entered and accepted under this new system. They won’t even know how many orders and when they will be getting them!
So this is literally the WORST case scenario for unallocated 2021 and 2022 buyers. And you know how I know it’s bad? My dealer literally emailed me today and asked to by back my 2020 at 9k over MSRP. So there again, all the youtubers who said the used C8 market would die down - also wrong. Stop listening to these jokers and settle in for a mess of a wait with little to no news about your orders. Still, greatest car ever made in my opinion and I’d wait all over again for it. But really ticked off at the constant hang-in-there BS which is simply false advertising. They should say, give us your money, and leave us alone because we won’t know when it’s getting built but we will call you when it’s time. And that’s it. Of course then these Yiutubers wouldn’t have all of the clickbait which you all are providing them!
In a nutshell, all 2021 orders are cancelled not at status 3000. So all those dealers telling you don’t worry, we still have more allocations coming - their intel was garbage. And it continues to be garbage. GM gave them no warning and now all these customers at 1100 who kept being told not to panic - well it’s time to panic.
And don’t be fooled by the, it’s unrelated to current chip shortage language somehow being positive too - how is THAT positive?!? It means the underlying transmission or production QC problem plaguing the 2021 cars hasn’t been sorted out and they are simply hoping it’s fixed before 2022 is supposed to begin - but there are no guarantees AND chips will now likely go to other vehicles as corvette production grinds to an end for 2021. If you think there is ANY reason to believe they now start on time for 2022, you’re feeding what they are serving you because you are starving.
Finally, the worst news of all is that controlled allocations are gone and now everyone is pumped into non-allocated delivery like every other car Chevy builds basically. This means your “spot” in line is bye bye and the dealership can now throw any customer in any spot. And as many dealers have customers first-in-line spots for 2022 allocations, those are now gone. Furthermore, GM simply tells affected 2021 customers to call their dealer and see what each dealer wants to do now that allocations are gone. Talk about being thrown to the wolves - there is zero guarantee you get a car before the 2022s already promised.
Finally, if you know anything about these scenarios, even when dealers now get order spots under this system, they would be given constraints which means that the persons who would ordinarily be at the front of the line may drop back significantly because of these. It will mean dealers are matching up deposits to order spots in a much less predictable manner. In a nutshell, first come first served is gone. And the dealers themselves will no longer be able to tell you with confidence when you’ll get your car. They will try to keep you on the line and keep you from giving up by telling you it’ll be soon - but in reality they won’t have a clue for sure when your order might be able to be entered and accepted under this new system. They won’t even know how many orders and when they will be getting them!
So this is literally the WORST case scenario for unallocated 2021 and 2022 buyers. And you know how I know it’s bad? My dealer literally emailed me today and asked to by back my 2020 at 9k over MSRP. So there again, all the youtubers who said the used C8 market would die down - also wrong. Stop listening to these jokers and settle in for a mess of a wait with little to no news about your orders. Still, greatest car ever made in my opinion and I’d wait all over again for it. But really ticked off at the constant hang-in-there BS which is simply false advertising. They should say, give us your money, and leave us alone because we won’t know when it’s getting built but we will call you when it’s time. And that’s it. Of course then these Yiutubers wouldn’t have all of the clickbait which you all are providing them!
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Those dates are most likely all "out of date" - just like in 2020 when model year end kept changing - so did these types of dates.
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Contrary to what you guys may be hearing from dealers and Youtubers who also are helping sell cars - don’t have to name them because you know who I’m talking about - there is Zero positive news here. Zero.
In a nutshell, all 2021 orders are cancelled not at status 3000. So all those dealers telling you don’t worry, we still have more allocations coming - their intel was garbage. And it continues to be garbage. GM gave them no warning and now all these customers at 1100 who kept being told not to panic - well it’s time to panic.
And don’t be fooled by the, it’s unrelated to current chip shortage language somehow being positive too - how is THAT positive?!? It means the underlying transmission or production QC problem plaguing the 2021 cars hasn’t been sorted out and they are simply hoping it’s fixed before 2022 is supposed to begin - but there are no guarantees AND chips will now likely go to other vehicles as corvette production grinds to an end for 2021. If you think there is ANY reason to believe they now start on time for 2022, you’re feeding what they are serving you because you are starving.
Finally, the worst news of all is that controlled allocations are gone and now everyone is pumped into non-allocated delivery like every other car Chevy builds basically. This means your “spot” in line is bye bye and the dealership can now throw any customer in any spot. And as many dealers have customers first-in-line spots for 2022 allocations, those are now gone. Furthermore, GM simply tells affected 2021 customers to call their dealer and see what each dealer wants to do now that allocations are gone. Talk about being thrown to the wolves - there is zero guarantee you get a car before the 2022s already promised.
Finally, if you know anything about these scenarios, even when dealers now get order spots under this system, they would be given constraints which means that the persons who would ordinarily be at the front of the line may drop back significantly because of these. It will mean dealers are matching up deposits to order spots in a much less predictable manner. In a nutshell, first come first served is gone. And the dealers themselves will no longer be able to tell you with confidence when you’ll get your car. They will try to keep you on the line and keep you from giving up by telling you it’ll be soon - but in reality they won’t have a clue for sure when your order might be able to be entered and accepted under this new system. They won’t even know how many orders and when they will be getting them!
So this is literally the WORST case scenario for unallocated 2021 and 2022 buyers. And you know how I know it’s bad? My dealer literally emailed me today and asked to by back my 2020 at 9k over MSRP. So there again, all the youtubers who said the used C8 market would die down - also wrong. Stop listening to these jokers and settle in for a mess of a wait with little to no news about your orders. Still, greatest car ever made in my opinion and I’d wait all over again for it. But really ticked off at the constant hang-in-there BS which is simply false advertising. They should say, give us your money, and leave us alone because we won’t know when it’s getting built but we will call you when it’s time. And that’s it. Of course then these Yiutubers wouldn’t have all of the clickbait which you all are providing them!
In a nutshell, all 2021 orders are cancelled not at status 3000. So all those dealers telling you don’t worry, we still have more allocations coming - their intel was garbage. And it continues to be garbage. GM gave them no warning and now all these customers at 1100 who kept being told not to panic - well it’s time to panic.
And don’t be fooled by the, it’s unrelated to current chip shortage language somehow being positive too - how is THAT positive?!? It means the underlying transmission or production QC problem plaguing the 2021 cars hasn’t been sorted out and they are simply hoping it’s fixed before 2022 is supposed to begin - but there are no guarantees AND chips will now likely go to other vehicles as corvette production grinds to an end for 2021. If you think there is ANY reason to believe they now start on time for 2022, you’re feeding what they are serving you because you are starving.
Finally, the worst news of all is that controlled allocations are gone and now everyone is pumped into non-allocated delivery like every other car Chevy builds basically. This means your “spot” in line is bye bye and the dealership can now throw any customer in any spot. And as many dealers have customers first-in-line spots for 2022 allocations, those are now gone. Furthermore, GM simply tells affected 2021 customers to call their dealer and see what each dealer wants to do now that allocations are gone. Talk about being thrown to the wolves - there is zero guarantee you get a car before the 2022s already promised.
Finally, if you know anything about these scenarios, even when dealers now get order spots under this system, they would be given constraints which means that the persons who would ordinarily be at the front of the line may drop back significantly because of these. It will mean dealers are matching up deposits to order spots in a much less predictable manner. In a nutshell, first come first served is gone. And the dealers themselves will no longer be able to tell you with confidence when you’ll get your car. They will try to keep you on the line and keep you from giving up by telling you it’ll be soon - but in reality they won’t have a clue for sure when your order might be able to be entered and accepted under this new system. They won’t even know how many orders and when they will be getting them!
So this is literally the WORST case scenario for unallocated 2021 and 2022 buyers. And you know how I know it’s bad? My dealer literally emailed me today and asked to by back my 2020 at 9k over MSRP. So there again, all the youtubers who said the used C8 market would die down - also wrong. Stop listening to these jokers and settle in for a mess of a wait with little to no news about your orders. Still, greatest car ever made in my opinion and I’d wait all over again for it. But really ticked off at the constant hang-in-there BS which is simply false advertising. They should say, give us your money, and leave us alone because we won’t know when it’s getting built but we will call you when it’s time. And that’s it. Of course then these Yiutubers wouldn’t have all of the clickbait which you all are providing them!
After the recent shutdowns, I expected the June allocations to be cut or eliminated and posted that several times (it was not a popular opinion). Even if there were still June allocations, there was still going to be a bunch of 2021 orders at 1100 that would have to be reentered as 2022 orders - just as happened in the 2020 to 2021 changeover.
Bottom line, going to ADS changes very little. The sky is not falling.
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There have been very few constraints on the C8 since their release. There is no reason to expect any significant constraints moving forward (rollout of new colors and new models excepted). Orders are ALWAYS subject to constraints - this is not new. With ADS allocation method, dealers are still notified of their allocation numbers prior to the order cycle. In reality, there will not be any significant changes. Dealers that move a lot of C8s and don't have them sitting on their lot will continue to get lots of allocations. Some dealers that have new cars sitting on their lot because of ADMs will see their allocations hurt by that. Dealers will continue to assign orders to allocations as they have in the past - the reputable ones will do it based on original deposit date.
After the recent shutdowns, I expected the June allocations to be cut or eliminated and posted that several times (it was not a popular opinion). Even if there were still June allocations, there was still going to be a bunch of 2021 orders at 1100 that would have to be reentered as 2022 orders - just as happened in the 2020 to 2021 changeover.
Bottom line, going to ADS changes very little. The sky is not falling.
After the recent shutdowns, I expected the June allocations to be cut or eliminated and posted that several times (it was not a popular opinion). Even if there were still June allocations, there was still going to be a bunch of 2021 orders at 1100 that would have to be reentered as 2022 orders - just as happened in the 2020 to 2021 changeover.
Bottom line, going to ADS changes very little. The sky is not falling.
back in September, “If you want to market-adjust the car, that’s your right. But if your days-on-lot goes above [that of] the other guys that are selling them at MSRP, they will end up earning the allocation because their days-on-lot will be lower. They’re turning the inventory.”
“Some dealers are going to have heartburn with that,” Kuniskis told Automotive News. “I want this car out in the marketplace so that somebody is sharing it with 50 of their friends and elevating the brand. That’s what I want—not sitting in your showroom with a rope around it.”
“Some dealers are going to have heartburn with that,” Kuniskis told Automotive News. “I want this car out in the marketplace so that somebody is sharing it with 50 of their friends and elevating the brand. That’s what I want—not sitting in your showroom with a rope around it.”
