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Ford engineering caught driving a C8, Maybe a mid engined Mustang variant in the future? Let GM pay for all the engineering costs and copy the technology.
Last edited by MagicGlass; Jun 26, 2021 at 11:41 AM.
All manufacturers are constantly benchmarking the competition for ideas. It generally has nothing to do with thoughts about building a similar platform. They're looking at every aspect of the vehicle to evaluate whether the competition has done something they may want to incorporate.
There is the mention of this: "(Ford) filed to trademark “Thunderbird” with the United States Patent and Trademark Office back in January (,2021).
The Thunderbird started as a two seater in '55 (a response to the C1?).
Perhaps they are planning a re-visit to that configuration (modernized) - maybe a poor man's GT40?
Doubt it..... certainly, the Mustang still holds place as Ford's performance platform, but competitive with the Camaro, not the Corvette.....the Corvette is a bit of an anomaly....it has a loyal established base of customers, but the segment is tiny, and not necessarily growing.... there is little room left for a new high volume (e.g. 30-50K units/yr) entrant....
If I were a Ford Exec and somebody suggested launching a direct Corvette competition, I'd immediately send them to re-hab.
Doubt it..... certainly, the Mustang still holds place as Ford's performance platform, but competitive with the Camaro, not the Corvette.....the Corvette is a bit of an anomaly....it has a loyal established base of customers, but the segment is tiny, and not necessarily growing.... there is little room left for a new high volume (e.g. 30-50K units/yr) entrant....
If I were a Ford Exec and somebody suggested launching a direct Corvette competition, I'd immediately send them to re-hab.
I'm not so sure about that. Look at the disruption that Ford is trying with the new Bronco. (not the bronco sport). They have the resources and the ability to go after the corvette market.
I'm not so sure about that. Look at the disruption that Ford is trying with the new Bronco. (not the bronco sport). They have the resources and the ability to go after the corvette market.
Indeed, and that includes the new Maverick small pick-up truck that will come with an electric/gasoline hybrid engine as standard equipment. They also have the Ecoboost engine family with the ability to put a lot power in the last generation of ICE sports cars, and the large displacement, pushrod V8 isn't going to pass regulatory muster much longer.
I am surprised the OP cares so much about GM engineering being paid and its tech being copied by Ford, considering how many times during any given week he complains and rails against GM engineering.
There is the mention of this: "(Ford) filed to trademark “Thunderbird” with the United States Patent and Trademark Office back in January (,2021).
The Thunderbird started as a two seater in '55 (a response to the C1?).
Perhaps they are planning a re-visit to that configuration (modernized) - maybe a poor man's GT40?
Problem is Ford’s lineup makes no damn sense. For sports cars you have a Mustang that ranges from $27k to $110k, then nothing till you’re at a half million dollar exotic. Mustang is both the name of a lame *** electric crossover and a muscle car. GT is both a trim level for Mustangs and a super car that looks nothing like a Mustang.
GT40 is an old nameplate that Ford somehow managed to lose the rights to like a bunch of startup amateurs despite being an over 100 year old company that invented the assembly line.
They could compete with a C8 but instead they blew their wad on a glorified 760 hp version of 16 year old girl’s EcoBoost Mustang.
Thunderbird was a butchered name from way back that went from “Ford’s Corvette” to an old man luxo coupe, then retro “50’s nostalgia-mobile” for really old men. Nobody under the age of 80 wants a Thunderbird. The idea that Ford just now filed for the name “Thunderbird” they came up with almost 70 years ago makes me question who the hell is running their copyrighting. Perhaps it explains why Ford seems to only be able to recycle the same 5 or so words for every imaginable nameplate.
Then we got the GT.
“Mustang GT”
“No just GT”
“my son has a GT”
“No, your son has a Mustang, a ‘GT’ is a super car”
“I’m pretty sure he said he bought a GT”
“No that’s a trim level, a GT is a super car that your son cannot afford. It’s $500k”
“Oh, My neighbor just bought the new Mustang GT, it’s electric, that’s what you’re talking about right?”
“No, again that a trim level and a car that’s nothing like a Mustang nor a GT. That’s a Mach E Mustang GT”
“I’m confused, so he has a Mach E Mustang GT500 that’s $500k?”
“No a Mustang GT500 is a competitor to the Corvette that’s also a Mustang, but it’s not a GT nor a Mustang Mach E GT, and it’s not a Mustang GT, it’s a Mustang GT500.”
”I’m confused”
Last edited by Majestic94; Jun 26, 2021 at 03:31 PM.
Then we got the GT.
“Mustang GT”
“No just GT”
“my son has a GT”
“No, your son has a Mustang, a ‘GT’ is a super car”
“I’m pretty sure he said he bought a GT”
“No that’s a trim level, a GT is a super car that your son cannot afford. It’s $500k”
“Oh, My neighbor just bought the new Mustang GT, it’s electric, that’s what you’re talking about right?”
“No, again that a trim level and a car that’s nothing like a Mustang nor a GT. That’s a Mach E Mustang GT”
“I’m confused, so he has a Mach E Mustang GT500 that’s $500k?”
“No a Mustang GT500 is a competitor to the Corvette that’s also a Mustang, but it’s not a GT nor a Mustang Mach E GT, and it’s not a Mustang GT, it’s a Mustang GT500.”
”I’m confused”
To you, maybe not. But, Ford's strategy seems to be paying off nicely.
It not their strategy. A retarded monkey could make and sell a car right now. Ford thinks it’s their strategy but it’s really just a very forgiving and generous market. Their nameplates themselves are absolutely useless.
Last edited by Majestic94; Jun 26, 2021 at 04:44 PM.
Problem is Ford’s lineup makes no damn sense. For sports cars you have a Mustang that ranges from $27k to $110k, then nothing till you’re at a half million dollar exotic. Mustang is both the name of a lame *** electric crossover and a muscle car. GT is both a trim level for Mustangs and a super car that looks nothing like a Mustang.
GT40 is an old nameplate that Ford somehow managed to lose the rights to like a bunch of startup amateurs despite being an over 100 year old company that invented the assembly line.
They could compete with a C8 but instead they blew their wad on a glorified 760 hp version of 16 year old girl’s EcoBoost Mustang.
Thunderbird was a butchered name from way back that went from “Ford’s Corvette” to an old man luxo coupe, then retro “50’s nostalgia-mobile” for really old men. Nobody under the age of 80 wants a Thunderbird. The idea that Ford just now filed for the name “Thunderbird” they came up with almost 70 years ago makes me question who the hell is running their copyrighting. Perhaps it explains why Ford seems to only be able to recycle the same 5 or so words for every imaginable nameplate.
Then we got the GT.
“Mustang GT”
“No just GT”
“my son has a GT”
“No, your son has a Mustang, a ‘GT’ is a super car”
“I’m pretty sure he said he bought a GT”
“No that’s a trim level, a GT is a super car that your son cannot afford. It’s $500k”
“Oh, My neighbor just bought the new Mustang GT, it’s electric, that’s what you’re talking about right?”
“No, again that a trim level and a car that’s nothing like a Mustang nor a GT. That’s a Mach E Mustang GT”
“I’m confused, so he has a Mach E Mustang GT500 that’s $500k?”
“No a Mustang GT500 is a competitor to the Corvette that’s also a Mustang, but it’s not a GT nor a Mustang Mach E GT, and it’s not a Mustang GT, it’s a Mustang GT500.”
”I’m confused”
The two Fords I've bought over the past 42 years, have given me much greater service/reliability than the two Cadillacs I previously owned in the 1970s. Although my two Corvettes bought new, have been stellar sports cars.
Ford has succeeded with the Ford GT, where GM hasn't in that vein. Nuff said.
If anyone has a lead on a reasonably priced used 2019 or 2020 Ford GT, PM me. I'm in the market for one.
Last edited by Skid Row Joe; Jun 27, 2021 at 07:47 PM.
Reason: Revisions/Typo
Ford Benchmarking the C8
