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Old Oct 9, 2021 | 10:11 AM
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Small dealer told me they had an allocation and its mine if I want it. When I give them the build specs and they input that into GM's system will an order number be generated and then status goes to 2000 immediately. Since this is a small dealer I don't want to assume anything and hope they are not just telling me they have an allocation to get my non-refundable deposit and they hope they get an allocation soon. Tks
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When the dealer enters the order into the GM Workbench, it is considered event code 1100. It's simply entered in the system but there is no action taken on it. Basically a wait list with order ready to be accepted. Once Chevy comes along and the dealer is "blessed" with an allocation, the dealer can then assign a Workbench order to that blessing (allocation). At that point, the order event code is considered 2000 (accepted by GM). Once Chevy gets the order to event 3000, then it's accepted into production control and no changes can be made. It's going to be built.

I would encourage you to try negotiating your deposit to be refundable until they assign it to an allocation (2000) in a finite period of time (say 3 months?), then it reverts to a non-refundable once it reaches 2000, with YOUR name on the order.
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You need to tell them you are willing to give them a non refundable deposit as long as they have an allocation right now. Then you need to jump on it before they give it to someone else.
If the dealer has an allocation GM will provide an order number right on the worksheet. If there is no order number there is no allocation.

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You need to tell them you are willing to give them a non refundable deposit as long as they have an allocation right now. Then you need to jump on it before they give it to someone else.
If the dealer has an allocation GM will provide an order number right on the worksheet. If there is no order number there is no allocation.
They have verbally told me they have an allocation. I guess I can't verify that though. When you say "GM will provide an order number right on the worksheet" what do you mean. Can I verify they have an allocation in anyway or just have to take them at their word. I assume that when the put the build specs in I would get the order number right then. I won't be at the dealer to do this. Just trying to cover my A## and not get into a wait 3 months for an actual allocation to come in. Tks
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Dealers were notified of their "consensus" numbers on Thursday. At this time dealers can request more or less than they were given in the initial consensus. Since dealers aren't turning down C8's, the initial consensus numbers won't change when the actual allocations are given out next Thursday. Next Thursday is when they will be able to assign an allocation (if they have one) to your order and it will go to 2000 at that time.
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Old Oct 9, 2021 | 11:37 AM
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Dealers were notified of their "consensus" numbers on Thursday. At this time dealers can request more or less than they were given in the initial consensus. Since dealers aren't turning down C8's, the initial consensus numbers won't change when the actual allocations are given out next Thursday. Next Thursday is when they will be able to assign an allocation (if they have one) to your order and it will go to 2000 at that time.
Great. They want a non-refundable $5k deposit. Should I wait until Thursday to give that to them? If they ask today for it I don't want to say no let's wait till Thursday as they could just say see you later we'll give it to someone else. I guess my question is would you put a deposit today. I think the dealer is being honest with me about the allocation. They are small in a small town so reputation is pretty important to them. Tks
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Old Oct 9, 2021 | 11:41 AM
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I would give it to them now to let them know your serious.
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Get it in writing that its MSRP unless you're willing to pay market adjustment.
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Originally Posted by cecilt
Small dealer told me they had an allocation and its mine if I want it. When I give them the build specs and they input that into GM's system will an order number be generated and then status goes to 2000 immediately. Since this is a small dealer I don't want to assume anything and hope they are not just telling me they have an allocation to get my non-refundable deposit and they hope they get an allocation soon. Tks
Sounds legit based on the timing. Just get it in writing that they will sell you the car at MSRP and you should be golden.
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Originally Posted by Zymurgy
Dealers were notified of their "consensus" numbers on Thursday. At this time dealers can request more or less than they were given in the initial consensus. Since dealers aren't turning down C8's, the initial consensus numbers won't change when the actual allocations are given out next Thursday. Next Thursday is when they will be able to assign an allocation (if they have one) to your order and it will go to 2000 at that time.
Maybe you can help me with this. My local dealer is relatively small, but he always gets a few Vettes every year. A couple weeks ago he told me that he's already got one being built for a customer and that 2 people have orders in ahead of me, but that he didn't know when those would be allocated. We went ahead and submitted an order into the system just so I could have a spot in line. Should I check with him this week to see if there's been any update in his allocation numbers?
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Old Oct 9, 2021 | 02:32 PM
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Get it in writing that the price will be MSRP(or whatever you agreed to) and that it will be allocated on the next cycle this coming week, or the deposit is refundable. Once those conditions are met, it is no longer refundable. Congrats on finding a spot!
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Maybe you can help me with this. My local dealer is relatively small, but he always gets a few Vettes every year. A couple weeks ago he told me that he's already got one being built for a customer and that 2 people have orders in ahead of me, but that he didn't know when those would be allocated. We went ahead and submitted an order into the system just so I could have a spot in line. Should I check with him this week to see if there's been any update in his allocation numbers?
Doesn't hurt to ask. I would check in 1x per month maybe towards the end of each month since allocations would have been given to the dealer in the first half of the month unless they do 2 allocations per month.
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Originally Posted by BMadden
Maybe you can help me with this. My local dealer is relatively small, but he always gets a few Vettes every year. A couple weeks ago he told me that he's already got one being built for a customer and that 2 people have orders in ahead of me, but that he didn't know when those would be allocated. We went ahead and submitted an order into the system just so I could have a spot in line. Should I check with him this week to see if there's been any update in his allocation numbers?
Depends on who you are working with. A sales person is unlikely to be aware of the consensus. Typically this is handled by a back office inventory manager or similar position. If they only "get a few per year", they may not have any this cycle. I think you should just wait until next Thursday when allocations will be known.
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Great. They want a non-refundable $5k deposit. Should I wait until Thursday to give that to them? If they ask today for it I don't want to say no let's wait till Thursday as they could just say see you later we'll give it to someone else. I guess my question is would you put a deposit today. I think the dealer is being honest with me about the allocation. They are small in a small town so reputation is pretty important to them. Tks
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Get it in writing that the price will be MSRP(or whatever you agreed to) and that it will be allocated on the next cycle this coming week, or the deposit is refundable. Once those conditions are met, it is no longer refundable. Congrats on finding a spot!
I'd try what imaposer suggested. Put down the deposit on the condition that it is refundable if what they are saying (it will be assigned to an allocation this order cycle) is not true. If they're confident of their allocation, they should not object to this.
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Originally Posted by Zymurgy
Depends on who you are working with. A sales person is unlikely to be aware of the consensus. Typically this is handled by a back office inventory manager or similar position. If they only "get a few per year", they may not have any this cycle. I think you should just wait until next Thursday when allocations will be known.
I dealt directly with the owner of the dealership. I've bought several Vettes from him over the years and he told me anytime I wanted to put in an order to come to talk to him so that's what I did a couple weeks ago.
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Originally Posted by BMadden
I dealt directly with the owner of the dealership. I've bought several Vettes from him over the years and he told me anytime I wanted to put in an order to come to talk to him so that's what I did a couple weeks ago.
You are probably fine. The “probably” is the result of our reading too many posts on CF about the trusty local dealer who cannot afford to alienate customers…but it turns out $20k over sticker makes up for quite a few alienated customers.
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I asked the dealer if he actually had the allocation to place an order or if he was hoping to get one as I said I would only move forward with them if he actually had one. Tjis was his exact response "Yes we have it in the system now and passes all constraints. Its sitting at 1100 preliminary order accepted but I can still change it. So unless anything you changed has constraints it will go to 2000 in the next 2 weeks which is the next 2 order cycles." Guess it sounds legit.
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Well, that response is a lot of gobbledygook. Constraints aren't known until actual allocations are given (this Thursday) although it is highly unlikely that there will be any constraints. An order that is assigned an allocation this week will go to 200- immediately and will move to 3000 by next Wednesday. Furthermore, there are not order cycles every week (contrary to the "go to 2000 in the next 2 weeks which is the next 2 order cycles" comment). He may have an allocation coming, but I'm very uncomfortable with his commentary.
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Originally Posted by Zymurgy
Well, that response is a lot of gobbledygook. Constraints aren't known until actual allocations are given (this Thursday) although it is highly unlikely that there will be any constraints. An order that is assigned an allocation this week will go to 200- immediately and will move to 3000 by next Wednesday. Furthermore, there are not order cycles every week (contrary to the "go to 2000 in the next 2 weeks which is the next 2 order cycles" comment). He may have an allocation coming, but I'm very uncomfortable with his commentary.
Zymurgy this is very helpful for me and hopefully others. A few questions before I reach out to the dealer about changing my Retail Stock to Retail Sold. When you say an order that assigned an allocation this week will go to 2000 immediately. What day of this week would that happen? How would I know my order went to 2000--Dealer, Shane etc. Based on his mentioning the 2 order cycles I take it from you that there is one order cycle in each month and for October that is starting Thursday of this week and ending Tuesday of next week. The next cycle would occur sometime in November? Thanks for your insight.
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