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Old Oct 11, 2021 | 03:50 PM
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Assessed value does not equal MSRP. You owe tax on assessed value.
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Old Oct 11, 2021 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DevilDog82
I wouldn't sue or anything like that, I was just curious if a statute existed requiring dealerships to disclose markups as separate line items, etc. The tax difference if they were to remove their markup would be $150 max, so it's a trivial amount, but it's the principle behind it, as I don't think it's fair or accurate.

I'll bite the bullet on this I'm sure, and I love the car, but I despise taxes, as we all probably do.
served your country, and now you get served the fist. Typical sales tax just grabbing there share. It’s like being robbed

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Old Oct 11, 2021 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenmcp
Assessed value does not equal MSRP. You owe tax on assessed value.
If you had read an earlier post, it says NC law requires assessors to use the sales price.

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Old Oct 11, 2021 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DevilDog82
Thank you all for your helpful responses.
Thank you for your service DevilDog.
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Old Oct 11, 2021 | 05:52 PM
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would have been nice if the dealership could have broken it up into two invoices. one for the car at MSRP, one for addons.
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Old Oct 11, 2021 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DevilDog82
Thank you, I agree. That was my whole point is posing the question since many of us add a lot to our cars after purchase. I'm guessing no one here contacts the DMV after adding PPF, ceramic, etc. to tell them that their car is now more valuable, therefore they should be taxed on its new value. Though based upon some of the feedback my question has received, I must assume that they do.
As I understand it, the current tax rate on a new car in N.C. is 3%. The sales tax rate on goods and services is 4.75%-7.5% depending on the County and municipality you live in. You would have paid the higher rate on the add-ons had the dealer given you two bills and paid more in tax...not less. What am I missing? The dealer can't legally charge you tax on his "cost" of the add-ons ignoring his actual price collected.
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Old Oct 11, 2021 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JALLEN4
As I understand it, the current tax rate on a new car in N.C. is 3%. The sales tax rate on goods and services is 4.75%-7.5% depending on the County and municipality you live in. You would have paid the higher rate on the add-ons had the dealer given you two bills and paid more in tax...not less. What am I missing? The dealer can't legally charge you tax on his "cost" of the add-ons ignoring his actual price collected.
Thanks for your response. I'm referring to the DMV tax assessment (registration), not the sales tax upon purchasing the car. You're correct that the sales tax upon purchasing the car was 3%.

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Old Oct 11, 2021 | 10:20 PM
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I live in NC, too. Here's one for you: the assessed tax value on my 2005 C6 increased 69% from July 2020 to July 2021. That's sixty-nine percent! I'll be getting my C8 renewal card in the mail by December. Think it will be higher than the price I paid last December?
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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DevilDog82

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And on top of that, they had the ***** to sock you $4995 for $100 worth of ceramic coating!

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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 05:45 AM
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Aside from the post above, to be clear, NC charges a Personal Property Tax on cars if I'm not mistaken. That means, every year or whatever the term length is, you pay tax on the assessed value and you are arguing about that amount, correct? If so, the only way to have "gotten around" this one is for the dealer to have declared, illegally, that the car did not come with various items that actually WERE on the car at the time you paid for it. The only way I can see to make that legal from the dealer's standpoint is to have put those items---all of them---on the car after you bought it. In other words, at a different date. Still, you would have at least paid sales tax on it, but I don't know if any of it would be part of an "assessed" value unless you are required to submit all options and accessories to the DMV for an increased valuation. I doubt that's required.

As stated by others, your time to dispute the charges in anticipation of what your/car's assessed value might be was at the time of purchase---actually, before you bought the car. Legally, it won't hold up after the purchase---you bought it the way it is and NC law is the way it is. You are stuck with it IMO.

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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DevilDog82
No, I did not stretch myself too thin, nor would I consider myself to be flush with cash. I'm also not "quibbling" about tax liability. It's a small difference in tax liability, but I want to be taxed fairly and accurately. As someone who has put their life on the line to defend this country, I don't think it's too much to ask to be treated fairly by it, especially when it comes to being taxed.
First, thanks for your service. I appreciate you.

I also appreciate getting taxes as low as I can in any situation. I hate paying them but it appears they already have you. Here is something that happened to me when I moved from Illinois back to Georgia to finish my last 15 months with my employer and retire. In 2013 Georgia started a TAVT tax on vehicles. It's a one-time tax that is paid at the time the vehicle is titled. It replaced sales tax and annual ad valorem tax and is paid every time vehicle ownership is transferred or a new resident registers the vehicle in Georgia for the first time.

I moved back here in August 2013 after this law hit the books. I transferred my wife's leased 2012 Lexus GX460 to our new home in Georgia. That cost me $3,000 in TAVT. I paid the Lexus off before I retired in 2014 and when I went in to transfer the registration to me from the lease company they hit me with the $3,000 tax - again. I was infuriated - more at myself for not paying attention to the law and not paying it off in 2013. I know this won't make you feel better but your situation could have been worse!

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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 01:52 PM
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The very definition of irony, the government has racketeering laws in place and then they take all our money. They make the mafia look like somebody passing the collection plate in church.
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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DevilDog82
I wouldn't sue or anything like that, I was just curious if a statute existed requiring dealerships to disclose markups as separate line items, etc. The tax difference if they were to remove their markup would be $150 max, so it's a trivial amount, but it's the principle behind it, as I don't think it's fair or accurate.

I'll bite the bullet on this I'm sure, and I love the car, but I despise taxes, as we all probably do.
We literally work to pay taxes, it’s insane.
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