Battery depletes quickly. Thoughts ?
Hey guys I have a 2020 HTC and I open and close the door a lot on my c8. I would say when I take it out to meets and let people sit in it anywhere from 200 to 300 times
in a single go and for 8 to 12 hours. Every now and then I start the car but when I'm indoors at a show I cant do that. I have literally got a dead battery/low no start from this. Is
there an option in the C8 to shut down all the electronics to save on battery or do I need to keep using my hulkman jumper and batter tender all day when I do this ?
Thanks guys!!!
in a single go and for 8 to 12 hours. Every now and then I start the car but when I'm indoors at a show I cant do that. I have literally got a dead battery/low no start from this. Is
there an option in the C8 to shut down all the electronics to save on battery or do I need to keep using my hulkman jumper and batter tender all day when I do this ?
Thanks guys!!!
The only way I know of to completely shut down the car is to disconnect a battery cable. You could get a quick disconnect to make that process easier.
OR, just leave the door open. After 10 minutes, the car will shut off power, and I'm pretty sure leave it off until you close and reopen the door.
OR, just leave the door open. After 10 minutes, the car will shut off power, and I'm pretty sure leave it off until you close and reopen the door.
Having some experience with this on a C-6, you need to get it back to the dealer and have it checked for a parasitic battery drain. There are so many electronics on these cars that can have gremlins. I will presume the car is still under factory warranty so there should be no charge to you. Don't just treat the symptom find the problem and fix it.
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While I partly agree w. all of the above posts, if you're really doing it 200-300 times per meet with no recharge, I have to wonder if this might be normal depletion of the battery's charge to the point where it's done for/finito. Maybe not. Maybe it should have more reserve power. To some extent, it's up to the initial charge of/on the battery BEFORE you start one of these events, and maybe even what you do AFTER the event, assuming the car starts and moves.
Is the car fully-charged before this onslaught of visitors to the car? If the car does start after, do you fully-charge it up either in the garage or on the open road?
Is the car fully-charged before this onslaught of visitors to the car? If the car does start after, do you fully-charge it up either in the garage or on the open road?
While I partly agree w. all of the above posts, if you're really doing it 200-300 times per meet with no recharge, I have to wonder if this might be normal depletion of the battery's charge to the point where it's done for/finito. Maybe not. Maybe it should have more reserve power. To some extent, it's up to the initial charge of/on the battery BEFORE you start one of these events, and maybe even what you do AFTER the event, assuming the car starts and moves.
Is the car fully-charged before this onslaught of visitors to the car? If the car does start after, do you fully-charge it up either in the garage or on the open road?
Is the car fully-charged before this onslaught of visitors to the car? If the car does start after, do you fully-charge it up either in the garage or on the open road?
Fun fact and not even the mechanic knew this but the battery is part of the 3 year warranty lol. I did not get the extended or any extras.
So it may just be the fact of opening the door so many times.
I suppose if you are doing indoor shows and using power pretty constantly. You could explore setting up and auxiliary battery near the car and run some power to it. At first thought, you might simply plug the aux battery into the frunk port. However the wire for that is not large and thus would be prone to over heat if you are pulling a lot of amps. You might need to run a secondary line from the main battery terminals to a easy access location if you pursued that option. Just a thought to consider
Yes, it could very well be from opening the door, 200 times in 12 hours, which is once every 3.6 minutes. 300 times in 8 hours is once every 1.6 minutes. Opening it that often keeps the electrical system activated at a higher state of current draw. I measured the normal parasitic battery draw and reported it here:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...e-battery.html
My measurements were consistent with what the shop manual says. The electrical system goes to sleep after being off for a while, but when you open the door the car electrical system fires up and draws 10-11 amps. The draw decreases gradually, after the car is locked, in steps, but from my measurements takes around 10 minutes to get back the lowest draw of 10-11 ma. When you open the door as frequently as you reported, the draw never gets back to its lowest state. Here is a summary of my test from the thread I referenced above.
After the car has been sitting for a while (more than 24 hrs), and before it is disturbed by any unlocking or opening action, I measured 10-11ma of current. That's pretty low. Then, I unlock, and then lock the car, and I move the key fob far away from the car. Immediately after the car is locked, and all the exterior lights go out, the draw is 10-11 amps. After about 30 seconds, it drops, in a step, to about 4.8 amps. At 60 seconds, it drops again, to about 2.8-2.9 amps. Shortly after that, before 90 seconds, it drops to 0.6-0.7 amps. I have to switch the meter range from amps to ma at this point. After 2 minutes, the draw is still around 570-580 milliamps (ma), which is still around the the 0.6 amps measured on the amp range. Around 4 minutes, it drops again, to around 300-330 ma. Somewhere around 10-12 minutes, it drops to the 10-11 ma, which I think is the final parasitic draw.
You may notice, in my test, I measured the drop after a unlock-lock cycle - and it does not include the period of time where exterior lights may come on. I suspect that if you are opening the door frequently, closing it, but not locking the car, the higher draw may persist for an even longer period of time. Any chance you are also demonstrating the HTC action?
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...e-battery.html
My measurements were consistent with what the shop manual says. The electrical system goes to sleep after being off for a while, but when you open the door the car electrical system fires up and draws 10-11 amps. The draw decreases gradually, after the car is locked, in steps, but from my measurements takes around 10 minutes to get back the lowest draw of 10-11 ma. When you open the door as frequently as you reported, the draw never gets back to its lowest state. Here is a summary of my test from the thread I referenced above.
After the car has been sitting for a while (more than 24 hrs), and before it is disturbed by any unlocking or opening action, I measured 10-11ma of current. That's pretty low. Then, I unlock, and then lock the car, and I move the key fob far away from the car. Immediately after the car is locked, and all the exterior lights go out, the draw is 10-11 amps. After about 30 seconds, it drops, in a step, to about 4.8 amps. At 60 seconds, it drops again, to about 2.8-2.9 amps. Shortly after that, before 90 seconds, it drops to 0.6-0.7 amps. I have to switch the meter range from amps to ma at this point. After 2 minutes, the draw is still around 570-580 milliamps (ma), which is still around the the 0.6 amps measured on the amp range. Around 4 minutes, it drops again, to around 300-330 ma. Somewhere around 10-12 minutes, it drops to the 10-11 ma, which I think is the final parasitic draw.
You may notice, in my test, I measured the drop after a unlock-lock cycle - and it does not include the period of time where exterior lights may come on. I suspect that if you are opening the door frequently, closing it, but not locking the car, the higher draw may persist for an even longer period of time. Any chance you are also demonstrating the HTC action?
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The only way I know of to completely shut down the car is to disconnect a battery cable. You could get a quick disconnect to make that process easier.
OR, just leave the door open. After 10 minutes, the car will shut off power, and I'm pretty sure leave it off until you close and reopen the door.
OR, just leave the door open. After 10 minutes, the car will shut off power, and I'm pretty sure leave it off until you close and reopen the door.
200 openings, door open 3 minutes each time. So Lookie Loo an lookie loo. Math says 600 minutes with all the interior lights on. Including the dash splash. Gotta kill the battery some. Nuts to do this. Put the top down and let folks look in from the top. What I'd do is keep the top up and the door shut. I'm not a dealer trying to demo a car. Folks can look in the window. Plus this makes them move on quicker. A good thing at most Saturday Show N Shine's.
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If you are indoors at a show would you be able to gain access to a power outlet and use a battery maintainer? It might look silly but people who know these cars would understand.
Otherwise I would do as someone here suggested - open the top and keep the door closed.
Otherwise I would do as someone here suggested - open the top and keep the door closed.
Hey guys I have a 2020 HTC and I open and close the door a lot on my c8. I would say when I take it out to meets and let people sit in it anywhere from 200 to 300 times
in a single go and for 8 to 12 hours. Every now and then I start the car but when I'm indoors at a show I cant do that. I have literally got a dead battery/low no start from this. Is
there an option in the C8 to shut down all the electronics to save on battery or do I need to keep using my hulkman jumper and batter tender all day when I do this ?
Thanks guys!!!
in a single go and for 8 to 12 hours. Every now and then I start the car but when I'm indoors at a show I cant do that. I have literally got a dead battery/low no start from this. Is
there an option in the C8 to shut down all the electronics to save on battery or do I need to keep using my hulkman jumper and batter tender all day when I do this ?
Thanks guys!!!
I suppose if you are doing indoor shows and using power pretty constantly. You could explore setting up and auxiliary battery near the car and run some power to it. At first thought, you might simply plug the aux battery into the frunk port. However the wire for that is not large and thus would be prone to over heat if you are pulling a lot of amps. You might need to run a secondary line from the main battery terminals to a easy access location if you pursued that option. Just a thought to consider
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Yes, it could very well be from opening the door, 200 times in 12 hours, which is once every 3.6 minutes. 300 times in 8 hours is once every 1.6 minutes. Opening it that often keeps the electrical system activated at a higher state of current draw. I measured the normal parasitic battery draw and reported it here:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...e-battery.html
My measurements were consistent with what the shop manual says. The electrical system goes to sleep after being off for a while, but when you open the door the car electrical system fires up and draws 10-11 amps. The draw decreases gradually, after the car is locked, in steps, but from my measurements takes around 10 minutes to get back the lowest draw of 10-11 ma. When you open the door as frequently as you reported, the draw never gets back to its lowest state. Here is a summary of my test from the thread I referenced above.
After the car has been sitting for a while (more than 24 hrs), and before it is disturbed by any unlocking or opening action, I measured 10-11ma of current. That's pretty low. Then, I unlock, and then lock the car, and I move the key fob far away from the car. Immediately after the car is locked, and all the exterior lights go out, the draw is 10-11 amps. After about 30 seconds, it drops, in a step, to about 4.8 amps. At 60 seconds, it drops again, to about 2.8-2.9 amps. Shortly after that, before 90 seconds, it drops to 0.6-0.7 amps. I have to switch the meter range from amps to ma at this point. After 2 minutes, the draw is still around 570-580 milliamps (ma), which is still around the the 0.6 amps measured on the amp range. Around 4 minutes, it drops again, to around 300-330 ma. Somewhere around 10-12 minutes, it drops to the 10-11 ma, which I think is the final parasitic draw.
You may notice, in my test, I measured the drop after a unlock-lock cycle - and it does not include the period of time where exterior lights may come on. I suspect that if you are opening the door frequently, closing it, but not locking the car, the higher draw may persist for an even longer period of time. Any chance you are also demonstrating the HTC action?
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...e-battery.html
My measurements were consistent with what the shop manual says. The electrical system goes to sleep after being off for a while, but when you open the door the car electrical system fires up and draws 10-11 amps. The draw decreases gradually, after the car is locked, in steps, but from my measurements takes around 10 minutes to get back the lowest draw of 10-11 ma. When you open the door as frequently as you reported, the draw never gets back to its lowest state. Here is a summary of my test from the thread I referenced above.
After the car has been sitting for a while (more than 24 hrs), and before it is disturbed by any unlocking or opening action, I measured 10-11ma of current. That's pretty low. Then, I unlock, and then lock the car, and I move the key fob far away from the car. Immediately after the car is locked, and all the exterior lights go out, the draw is 10-11 amps. After about 30 seconds, it drops, in a step, to about 4.8 amps. At 60 seconds, it drops again, to about 2.8-2.9 amps. Shortly after that, before 90 seconds, it drops to 0.6-0.7 amps. I have to switch the meter range from amps to ma at this point. After 2 minutes, the draw is still around 570-580 milliamps (ma), which is still around the the 0.6 amps measured on the amp range. Around 4 minutes, it drops again, to around 300-330 ma. Somewhere around 10-12 minutes, it drops to the 10-11 ma, which I think is the final parasitic draw.
You may notice, in my test, I measured the drop after a unlock-lock cycle - and it does not include the period of time where exterior lights may come on. I suspect that if you are opening the door frequently, closing it, but not locking the car, the higher draw may persist for an even longer period of time. Any chance you are also demonstrating the HTC action?
I will for sure take a look into that! Thanks.
200 openings, door open 3 minutes each time. So Lookie Loo an lookie loo. Math says 600 minutes with all the interior lights on. Including the dash splash. Gotta kill the battery some. Nuts to do this. Put the top down and let folks look in from the top. What I'd do is keep the top up and the door shut. I'm not a dealer trying to demo a car. Folks can look in the window. Plus this makes them move on quicker. A good thing at most Saturday Show N Shine's.
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