Allocation question
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Allocation question
Hey guys,
Just curious on dealership ordering process. Given the current market (I hate using that term, but at the moment it fits), are dealerships able to order C8's themselves for their own inventory? I ask, because I spoke with a dealership that is not taking any custom orders, as they order the cars themselves and sell them retail on the floor (assuming for markup, but I didnt get into that). I thought all C8's could only be ordered if there was a "sold" order for them. Thoughts?
Just curious on dealership ordering process. Given the current market (I hate using that term, but at the moment it fits), are dealerships able to order C8's themselves for their own inventory? I ask, because I spoke with a dealership that is not taking any custom orders, as they order the cars themselves and sell them retail on the floor (assuming for markup, but I didnt get into that). I thought all C8's could only be ordered if there was a "sold" order for them. Thoughts?
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First, you need to ask your Dealer what is the current allocation amount they are getting from GM each month...Some dealers are lucky to get one or two allocations per month, meaning they can only order that many in a given month... If a dealer doesn't have a waitlist and is just using their allocations to order for "inventory" than there is a very high probability they are selling them way over MSRP or as one Dealership does here they auction them off to the highest bidder!
As many of us have done it's best to get on either MacMulkin or Ciocca waitlist that sells C8s for MSRP...Current wait times are ~12 months...You can either pick up your C8 at their Dealership, have it shipped to your home, setup a museum delivery, or setup a courtesy delivery where your C8 will be shipped from GM to a local dealership that's on an approved CD list...
As many of us have done it's best to get on either MacMulkin or Ciocca waitlist that sells C8s for MSRP...Current wait times are ~12 months...You can either pick up your C8 at their Dealership, have it shipped to your home, setup a museum delivery, or setup a courtesy delivery where your C8 will be shipped from GM to a local dealership that's on an approved CD list...
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First, you need to ask your Dealer what is the current allocation amount they are getting from GM each month...Some dealers are lucky to get one or two allocations per month, meaning they can only order that many in a given month... If a dealer doesn't have a waitlist and is just using their allocations to order for "inventory" than there is a very high probability they are selling them way over MSRP or as one Dealership does here they auction them off to the highest bidder!
As many of us have done it's best to get on either MacMulkin or Ciocca waitlist that sells C8s for MSRP...Current wait times are ~12 months...You can either pick up your C8 at their Dealership, have it shipped to your home, setup a museum delivery, or setup a courtesy delivery where your C8 will be shipped from GM to a local dealership that's on an approved CD list...
As many of us have done it's best to get on either MacMulkin or Ciocca waitlist that sells C8s for MSRP...Current wait times are ~12 months...You can either pick up your C8 at their Dealership, have it shipped to your home, setup a museum delivery, or setup a courtesy delivery where your C8 will be shipped from GM to a local dealership that's on an approved CD list...
. I've been waiting about 6 months so far, so got about 6 months more to wait . But if I can cut that down by 6 months WITHOUT fees, I will .
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Last year my buddies C8 order went in 2 weeks before mine did. His went in a sold order, mine went in as a dealer stock order (even though it was my custom order). I wasn't price protected because of that. When I questioned it, I was told they have to order as dealer stock so many " to show that they sell cars quickly" to satisfy GM programs for future allocations. So dealers do what they want to with orders.
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Last year my buddies C8 order went in 2 weeks before mine did. His went in a sold order, mine went in as a dealer stock order (even though it was my custom order). I wasn't price protected because of that. When I questioned it, I was told they have to order as dealer stock so many " to show that they sell cars quickly" to satisfy GM programs for future allocations. So dealers do what they want to with orders.
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One of the big dealers/salesman does all customer orders this say, nobody is price-protected, no order # and no sitting at 1100 for months on end, and GM could careless. GM has also sent out letters about mark-ups with zero follow-through.
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My 21 HTC was a dealer stock order and I only put down an initial deposit of $1k. When I got an allocation one month later I asked about the additional deposit and was told not to worry about it. I picked up the car at MSRP four months later - five months from initial deposit.
My question to @Bob Paris is how do you know it violates the dealer's agreement with GM?
My question to @Bob Paris is how do you know it violates the dealer's agreement with GM?
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My 21 HTC was a dealer stock order and I only put down an initial deposit of $1k. When I got an allocation one month later I asked about the additional deposit and was told not to worry about it. I picked up the car at MSRP four months later - five months from initial deposit.
My question to @Bob Paris is how do you know it violates the dealer's agreement with GM?
My question to @Bob Paris is how do you know it violates the dealer's agreement with GM?
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There have been instances where dealers have placed "stock" orders as "sold" in situations where the factory gave preference to "sold" orders. The dealer Franchise agreement expects dealers to adhere to its guidelines, and improperly classifying an order, even if not beneficial, is a violation.
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There have been instances where dealers have placed "stock" orders as "sold" in situations where the factory gave preference to "sold" orders. The dealer Franchise agreement expects dealers to adhere to its guidelines, and improperly classifying an order, even if not beneficial, is a violation.
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There was an article in the Detroit Free Press (?) about a small-town Dodge dealer selling an inordinate number of strictly allocated Ram trucks. They were mis-classifying orders to gain allocations and ended up having their franchise revoked and faced unfair competition suits from aggrieved dealers.