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Old Jun 21, 2022 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Undy
There's been a half dozen posts or more here about the C8 3LT dash delamination problems.
For instance: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...like-this.html
That was in 2020. Don't you think GM has rectified the issue(s) by now??
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Old Jun 21, 2022 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Undy
There's been a half dozen posts or more here about the C8 3LT dash delamination problems.
For instance: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...like-this.html
There are 2 reports of C8 delaminations in that thread and they are both on relatively new cars. And the piece that had delaminations is easily removed from the dash not like previous generations where the dash had to be removed.

I have not seen one report of a C8 delamination that required dash removal.

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Old Jun 21, 2022 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Chemdawg99
You make a valid point, but speaking only for myself, just because I opted for 3LT doesn’t mean I’m going to defend that decision by saying everyone else should do the same. I’m not justifying my purchase so much as stating my reasoning, which is what I think the OP is interested in from myself and others.

If someone can afford cost of the 3LT in their budget, I’d highly recommend it to them. If they wish to save a buck because a more plush and aesthetically pleasing interior is not a priority for them, then 2LT offers the best bargain because all one would really miss is a more luxurious interior.

Sure, the OP or others could simply research the trim levels themselves, but that’s not the same as getting feedback from those who actually have a 2LT or 3LT and can offer an informed opinion. This Forum exists for this reason.

I might add that the search function yields multiple threads on the same topic because perhaps people want a fresh perspective. Just because you are not interested in seeing the subject discussed again doesn’t mean others who didn’t see or participate in the other threads aren’t interested in giving their feedback or opinion.
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Old Jun 21, 2022 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by gowenfast
That was in 2020. Don't you think GM has rectified the issue(s) by now??
GM has never resolved the 3LT dash issues for C6 or the C7s, so I have little or no confidence they will for the C8.
Sure, GM supposedly started adding staples and improved adhesive for the 2019 C7s (after 5 model years with this issue), yet checking the C7 forum you will still find many 2019 C7s with the dash delaminating issues, some more than once.

At least C8 dash replacement seems less laborious, it's approx a $3200>$3500job for the C7.
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Originally Posted by Undy
There's been a half dozen posts or more here about the C8 3LT dash delamination problems.
For instance: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...like-this.html
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That was in 2020. Don't you think GM has rectified the issue(s) by now??
The delaminating dash issue gets a bit overblown on the Forum because Internet forums tend to highlight problems. Of course, if even one owner has this problem, it’s something to consider if you are torn between getting a 3LT vs a 2LT.

That said, my 2019 was a 3LT (black interior) and the area around my HUD was slightly delaminated shortly after purchase. It was fixed under warranty and the entire dash was fine up until I traded it for my C8.

Any leather dash on any car can delaminate if proper precautions are not followed. Just search “leather dash delaminated” and the Corvette isn’t even near the top of the results. The main culprit of delaminated dashboards is leaving the car out in the sun for prolonged periods without a sun reflector for the windshield combined with a lack of regular and proper cleaning (a simple wipe down with a damp microfiber towel is all that’s needed). Darker materials may be more prone to delaminate than lighter colored materials. My car is garage-kept and I’m cognizant of not parking it in the sun for too long without a reflector.

The possibility of a delaminating dash should not dissuade someone from buying a 3LT. It’s important to be aware that properly caring for any leather/alcantara interior comes with owning a car with such an interior.

I might add that vinyl dashes crack and peel if not cared for as well.

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Comp seats are available in 2lt for #1995 upcharge. Many beyond thin build find them restrictive in daily driving.
I agree with the thin build comment. I didn't care about the xtra leather with the 3LT and I was told that if you upgrade the seats, they only get more narrow. They are comfortable for smaller guys but for me (5'10 - 240lbs) I'm way too wide for a comp seat. So, if you're a bigger guy, I would try to sick with the standard seats, which means you stick with LT2
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I've purchased 2 with 3LT. After being inside a 2LT, wasn't impressed with the basic headliner, door and dash material. I also really liked the 3LT leather airbag cover compared to the 1LT/2LT plastic cover makes the car more upscale looking. Once you own a 3LT you wont go back to a 2LT.

Now saying that, if the primary use will be a track car 1 or 2 LT is all you need.
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Old Jun 21, 2022 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Chemdawg99
The delaminating dash issue gets a bit overblown on the Forum because Internet forums tend to highlight problems. Of course, if even one owner has this problem, it’s something to consider if you are torn between getting a 3LT vs a 2LT.

That said, my 2019 was a 3LT (black interior) and the area around my HUD was slightly delaminated shortly after purchase. It was fixed under warranty and the entire dash was fine up until I traded it for my C8.

Any leather dash on any car can delaminate if proper precautions are not followed. Just search “leather dash delaminated” and the Corvette isn’t even near the top of the results. The main culprit of delaminated dashboards is leaving the car out in the sun for prolonged periods without a sun reflector for the windshield combined with a lack of regular and proper cleaning (a simple wipe down with a damp microfiber towel is all that’s needed). Darker materials may be more prone to delaminate than lighter colored materials. My car is garage-kept and I’m cognizant of not parking it in the sun for too long without a reflector.

The possibility of a delaminating dash should not dissuade someone from buying a 3LT. It’s important to be aware that properly caring for any leather/alcantara interior comes with owning a car with such an interior.

I might add that vinyl dashes crack and peel if not cared for either.
While Sun exposure / Heat may be the culprit of many dash delamination issues, not necessarily the cause of C7 3LT dash issues, as many C7 3LTs that reside in cooler northern states and garage queens that have had little or no exposure to heat/sun have had shrinking/receding dash issues while many 3LT C7s that reside in FLA, TX, AZ and other intense heat states that have had almost constant exposure to sun and heat have not. It's more a materials and/or execution issue.
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Originally Posted by Ken_C8
My 2020 3LT is almost 2 years old and still smells "leathery". Totally worth it to me. All surfaces feel wonderful. I'm sure Jerry will chime in with his Napa leather graphics soon.....
My 2LT still has the new car smell (leather) after 1 year....I'm satisfied with it, I still like to just look at it from time to time. That said, I saw another comment from someone who has some other high end vehicles and sure, I can understand going from say and Audi or Benz interior, you might find the 2LT lacking, but then again, for me, it's still a bitchin car on all fronts.
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Originally Posted by Kevin A Jones
While Sun exposure / Heat may be the culprit of many dash delamination issues, not necessarily the cause of C7 3LT dash issues, as many C7 3LTs that reside in cooler northern states and garage queens that have had little or no exposure to heat/sun have had shrinking/receding dash issues while many 3LT C7s that reside in FLA, TX, AZ and other intense heat states that have had almost constant exposure to sun and heat have not. It's more a materials and/or execution issue.
Understood. Just relaying my own experience with the issue. Let’s not re-litigate the C7 delaminating dash issue here beyond the caveat for the C8 3LT. Anyone considering a C8 3LT should simply be aware that it was an issue in the C7 3LT that doesn’t seem as prevalent in the C8 3LT three model years in.

That said, it’s a good idea to care for your car’s interior no matter the material, but especially important if you have a leather/alcantara interior.
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Originally Posted by Chemdawg99
You make a valid point, but speaking only for myself, just because I opted for 3LT doesn’t mean I’m going to defend that decision by saying everyone else should do the same. I’m not justifying my purchase so much as stating my reasoning, which is what I think the OP is interested in from myself and others.

If someone can afford cost of the 3LT in their budget, I’d highly recommend it to them. If they wish to save a buck because a more plush and aesthetically pleasing interior is not a priority for them, then 2LT offers the best bargain because all one would really miss is a more luxurious interior.

Sure, the OP or others could simply research the trim levels themselves, but that’s not the same as getting feedback from those who actually have a 2LT or 3LT and can offer an informed opinion. This Forum exists for this reason.

I might add that the search function yields multiple threads on the same topic because perhaps people want a fresh perspective. Just because you are not interested in seeing the subject discussed again doesn’t mean others who didn’t see or participate in the other threads aren’t interested in giving their feedback or opinion.
well said chemdawg
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We ordered 3LT because it was the only way to get the Natural Dipped (or any other dipped) interior. We XPEL Pro Plus ceramic tinted with 50% on the side and rear windows and 70% on the windshield, which does an amazing job of keeping the cabin comfortable even after the car has been parked for awhile in the summer sun.
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Originally Posted by E TKIT RIDE
I agree with the thin build comment. I didn't care about the xtra leather with the 3LT and I was told that if you upgrade the seats, they only get more narrow. They are comfortable for smaller guys but for me (5'10 - 240lbs) I'm way too wide for a comp seat. So, if you're a bigger guy, I would try to sick with the standard seats, which means you stick with LT2
Why don't you just lose some weight??
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Originally Posted by E TKIT RIDE
I agree with the thin build comment. I didn't care about the xtra leather with the 3LT and I was told that if you upgrade the seats, they only get more narrow. They are comfortable for smaller guys but for me (5'10 - 240lbs) I'm way too wide for a comp seat. So, if you're a bigger guy, I would try to sick with the standard seats, which means you stick with LT2
the seat sizing are the same no matter what level you buy.
gt1 seat no vented seat or bolster adjustment
gt2 overal same seat size as gt1…but has vented seats and bolster adjustment.
gt3 are tighter than GT1 and gt2 but it’s a competition seat.




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We've done this before, so I will keep it short. The 3LT is the better value IF you are planning to upgrade the seats. There is about a $4500 difference between 2LT and 3LT, that's big enough to sway you to the 2LT. But the GT2 seats are $1500 for the 2LT. That makes the difference between trims only $3k. And if you want two tone seats, add another $400, now its a $2600 difference to step up to a much nicer interior with better trim and better color options. I did the Tension Blue, which came with the blue seatbelts, saving me another $400. Competition seats are also a better deal... on the 3LT they only cost $500, compared to $2k on the 2LT.

If you are really bargain shopping, then the 1LT with minimal options is really the best value overall. Even the GT1 seats are great. But for me, if you are already going to option up the car with a lot of add-ons and get the 2LT, another $2500 to step up to the 3LT is worthwhile.

The delaminating dash concerns me, but from what I can see of the difference in the dash between the trims, all of them will have the same problem. They are all laminated.
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Old Jun 21, 2022 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Chemdawg99
Understood. Just relaying my own experience with the issue. Let’s not re-litigate the C7 delaminating dash issue here beyond the caveat for the C8 3LT. Anyone considering a C8 3LT should simply be aware that it was an issue in the C7 3LT that doesn’t seem as prevalent in the C8 3LT three model years in.

That said, it’s a good idea to care for your car’s interior no matter the material, but especially important if you have a leather/alcantara interior.
I agree and I don't advocate the 1LT, 2LT or 3LT, however as you I feel in all fairness those considering the 3LT should be made aware of the 3LT dash delamination risks, especially since this has plagued GM for 17 years and appears there's still no final solution.

IMO, there's no right or wrong trim level only the one that best fits the individual purchaser's needs and desire and ability to pay for it.
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3LT has the leather delamination option... been that way since the C6. For that reason alone I WOULD NEVER get a 3LT. GM has done squat to fix that, sort of like the C6 Z06 valve drop issue was.
Hmm, my 3LT C6, my 3LT 2014 C7 and my 3LT C8 dash were or is now NOT real animal hide leather. BTW had zero issues with my C6 3LT I had for 6 years. Same with my 3LT 2014 C7 dash as IMO most owner.

Confident 3LT's were, prior to the C8, bonded leather as some reported (clandestinely as GM does not say) were "Bonded Leather." GM calls the faux leather Mulan (their coined name) it is Vinyl (Polyvinylchloride.) But instead of the usual filler in Vinyl, calcium carbonate (Lime) it uses from 10 to 20% finely ground real leather scarps as a filler. Makes it smell like leather not much else!

However a forum member found a C8 3LT dash part purchased said Polyurethane. Totally different material. In fact my street rod interior is made from what is trademarked Ultraleather (Polyurethane) which is as fine and soft as the best woman's gloves. It's much more expensive than Vinyl or bonded leather. Mine contains zero real animal hide. Company advertises it as free from any animal parts! Great stuff, my interior shop quoted the same price for Ultraleather as real tanned animal hide leather but preferred to use the Synetric as they planed to match the flames on the outside.


Street Rod Interior Made from Polyurethane, More Expensive Than Bonded Faux Leather. After 22 Years Looks New. Probably What C8 3LT Dash Is Made From.
Like the 1LT and 2LT C7 probably Vinyl dash, perhaps the same for those trim levels in the C8.







Bottom Line Don't know for sure what the 3LT dash is made of BUT sure it's not real leather!

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I appreciate all the responses, I’m ordering a 2LT. at the end of the day I wasn’t dissatisfied with the interior in my 1LT so the upgrade to 2LT will be an improvement on the inside I’m sure, especially with the gt2 seats and sueded inserts/steering wheel. Honestly the main thing that I didn’t like was the lack of blind spot indicators in my car… yes I know how to use my mirrors, but I like the extra safety net. All my other vehicles have it which probably contributes to me wanting it more. The other electronic gadgets are cool but not essential to me.
After painstakingly flip flopping between torch red, hyper grey and yellow I think I decided on black lol. Looks great with the redline wheels and yellow calipers imo.
going to skip the engine appearance pkg and do my own thing since it might slow down the order. Thoughts?
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I appreciate all the responses, I’m ordering a 2LT. at the end of the day I wasn’t dissatisfied with the interior in my 1LT so the upgrade to 2LT will be an improvement on the inside I’m sure, especially with the gt2 seats and sueded inserts/steering wheel. Honestly the main thing that I didn’t like was the lack of blind spot indicators in my car… yes I know how to use my mirrors, but I like the extra safety net. All my other vehicles have it which probably contributes to me wanting it more. The other electronic gadgets are cool but not essential to me.
After painstakingly flip flopping between torch red, hyper grey and yellow I think I decided on black lol. Looks great with the redline wheels and yellow calipers imo.
going to skip the engine appearance pkg and do my own thing since it might slow down the order. Thoughts?
It has been said, "Once you go black, you never go back..."
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So they say lol. I’ve had more black cars than anything else but it dawned on me that out of 9 different vettes I’ve owned over the years not one has been black so I guess I’m due.
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