Building Z06 over Stingrays
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Heel & Toe
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It’s crazy because I put the deposit back in September, he is telling me I am still #90 something on the list and that they have only
received 1 allocation this month of July. Meaning at this rate I will never get my car.
received 1 allocation this month of July. Meaning at this rate I will never get my car.
Burning Brakes
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Rumor is GM will dedicate up to 35% of assembly to Z06.
If your dealer is getting 1 a month and you're #90, it would be significantly faster to get on a list with one of the big 3. At least then you'd have a car in 10-14 months.
- Will they really hit that many a week? I don't think so.
- Will it cut into Stingray production? Yes.
- Has it yet? No.
- Production of the Z06 (complete guess on my part based on what I've been reading) will probably start at the end of September.
If your dealer is getting 1 a month and you're #90, it would be significantly faster to get on a list with one of the big 3. At least then you'd have a car in 10-14 months.
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Z06 production WILL reduce Stingray production. There is only 1 assembly line. However, your dealer has no idea what Chevy's production priorities are. I think there just feeding you a line to make up for the fact that you have your deposit at a dealer that gets very few allocations and apparently a long wait list. What was your position on the list back in September when you placed your deposit? How many places have you dropped on the list in the 10 months since then? I think those answers will be very telling.
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Priority? Well, they easily generate more revenue from a Z06 build and their margins are likely much better on them as well. So if GM stands to make more money on each Z06 built, and even though GM making them a priority is just speculation, it’s also not a stretch.
However, It’s well documented from Corvette bash insight from Bowling Green managers that, A. They can not build Hard Top Convertibles back to back, and B. They need a coupe in between each HTC due to the extra time required to build it Vs a Coupe. Likewise, Z06’s can also not be built back to back, or back to back with a HTC. As a result only a 1/3rd of C8’s can be Z06’s.
Dude, at that rate it will literally take years. Your dealer is jerking your around…time to move on. Seriously, get on a list with one of the top 5 MSRP dealers and you’ll be 8-12 months out. Ciocca, Macmulkin, Criswell (all east coast) or Les Stanford (Detroit). All are MSRP dealers.
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Heel & Toe
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So they never really told me an exact number, they keep saying you are bottom third, you are around 90… it’s so unprofessional.
When I put the deposit down they told me estimated 16 months but build was prob going to be late summer.
it’s a grieco Chevy dealership in Delray Beach, FL. I am sure they are not a small dealership, they should be getting a good amount of corvette allocations. He usually said they used to get 7-8 allocations a month.
When I put the deposit down they told me estimated 16 months but build was prob going to be late summer.
it’s a grieco Chevy dealership in Delray Beach, FL. I am sure they are not a small dealership, they should be getting a good amount of corvette allocations. He usually said they used to get 7-8 allocations a month.
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So they never really told me an exact number, they keep saying you are bottom third, you are around 90… it’s so unprofessional.
When I put the deposit down they told me estimated 16 months but build was prob going to be late summer.
it’s a grieco Chevy dealership in Delray Beach, FL. I am sure they are not a small dealership, they should be getting a good amount of corvette allocations. He usually said they used to get 7-8 allocations a month.
When I put the deposit down they told me estimated 16 months but build was prob going to be late summer.
it’s a grieco Chevy dealership in Delray Beach, FL. I am sure they are not a small dealership, they should be getting a good amount of corvette allocations. He usually said they used to get 7-8 allocations a month.
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As far as building Z06s over Stingrays, don't get caught up in the rumors as only GM knows how many Z06s they will be rolling out and when. One thing you can count on is that their decision will be whatever most benefits GM.
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We're in uncharted territory with C8 compared to past gens. In the past, by the time the Z06 was introduced, demand for the base model was reduced enough that lower production numbers still met demand. The significantly smaller price gap between the two helped reduce base model demand. I don't think that's going to the case this time with waiting times still relatively long for the SR, and the significantly larger price gap with Z06 will keep SR demand high.
I think it is going to remain frustrating for those waiting for either SR or Z06 for at least another year.
I think it is going to remain frustrating for those waiting for either SR or Z06 for at least another year.
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When I lived in FL I originally was on a list with a small dealership that got about 50 allocations a year and figured out real fast they were playing games and were not very transparent. I would call them and they would never tell me my # on the list or how many cars they were getting, all they would tell me is when it's your turn we will call you. So I got my deposit back and called MacMulkin and received an allocation in 5 months and delivery in 8 months plus I got the car at MSRP and no added fees.
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This is going to be interesting to see where GM lands on the SR/Z06 production apportionment. Is it more profitable for GM to keep SR numbers high and rely upon volume, or is it more profitable to cut into SR production and rely upon a higher profit margin on the lower volume Z06 to make up for the profit deficit on fewer SRs?
I have no idea. However, it is clear that the Z06 price will eliminate a lot of buyers because of cost.
I have no idea. However, it is clear that the Z06 price will eliminate a lot of buyers because of cost.
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Currently based on the last info i saw in a video a while back, Gm is projected able to build about 30 z06 engines per shift. this translates to around 7800 Z06 engines per calendar year baring no shutdowns, setbacks.
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This is going to be interesting to see where GM lands on the SR/Z06 production apportionment. Is it more profitable for GM to keep SR numbers high and rely upon volume, or is it more profitable to cut into SR production and rely upon a higher profit margin on the lower volume Z06 to make up for the profit deficit on fewer SRs?
I have no idea. However, it is clear that the Z06 price will eliminate a lot of buyers because of cost.
I have no idea. However, it is clear that the Z06 price will eliminate a lot of buyers because of cost.
This means plenty of SR cars will be built. If GM can get production up to max (40k cars) then they might actually produce just as many if not more SR cars alongside the Z06. I don't think that's currently likely, maybe in a few years.
If anything I'd be worried about shared items, like Magride. Every Z06 has Magride, so if the supply of parts gets low for MSRC I 100% expect SR MSRC will be constrained to allow those parts to go to Z06 cars.
