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Old Sep 8, 2022 | 12:27 PM
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I have a 2023 non Z51 with 3000 miles and the best I can get in Track launch control is 3.1sec
In the attached video this guy has a 2020 non Z51 and he is getting 2.7 consistently and even had a 2.6.
I know GM changed the fuel management in 22 to meet some new emission law
and I’m wondering if that didn’t take some HP away from the engine.

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In 2022, GM tweaked the cyclinder deactivation to improve gas mileage. Maybe, staying in V4 longer? No affect with performance or HP.
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Someone posted a comparison with dragy to finally prove that the on board 0-60 timer is indeed highly inaccurate (timer is faster than actual). He ran 4 tests with a dragy and all 4 times the dragy showed a slower time than the on board timer did, one of which was as much as a .40 difference. Basically, if your on board 0-60 shows 2.6, you're likely really hitting a 3.0+
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Originally Posted by gve
I have a 2023 non Z51 with 3000 miles and the best I can get in Track launch control is 3.1sec
In the attached video this guy has a 2020 non Z51 and he is getting 2.7 consistently and even had a 2.6.
I know GM changed the fuel management in 22 to meet some new emission law
and I’m wondering if that didn’t take some HP away from the engine.

https://youtu.be/JbA1GZWkQjY
The quoted times are at a standard temperature a pressure, and humidity. If your temperature is higher than that, altitude is higher than that, and humidity higher than that, you will not get the stated 0-60 times. Oh and no wind, and the whole acceleration length must be level. Deviations from the standard can and likely will produce different results.
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Originally Posted by djpelosi
Someone posted a comparison with dragy to finally prove that the on board 0-60 timer is indeed highly inaccurate (timer is faster than actual). He ran 4 tests with a dragy and all 4 times the dragy showed a slower time than the on board timer did, one of which was as much as a .40 difference. Basically, if your on board 0-60 shows 2.6, you're likely really hitting a 3.0+
So, what makes the Draggy more accurate?
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Old Sep 8, 2022 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Racer X
The quoted times are at a standard temperature a pressure, and humidity. If your temperature is higher than that, altitude is higher than that, and humidity higher than that, you will not get the stated 0-60 times. Oh and no wind, and the whole acceleration length must be level. Deviations from the standard can and likely will produce different results.
In addition, in CA they typically have only 91 octane of their "funny gas!" Suggest he put perhaps aviation gas or any race shop typically sells 105 octane racing gas (doubt over 96 is a help) but be curious if that is different!!

My 2020 C8 Owner's Manual states 91 octane reduces power. I know some will quote the newer manuals deleted that statement BUT it doesn't say it does not reduce power. Quite possible GM just eliminated the words reduced power with 91 octane to make CA folks and other areas where 91 is highest available "Feel Better!" Latest manuals do say IF TRACKING us 91 octane!
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So, what makes the Draggy more accurate?
It's based off GPS and has been tested multiple times to be accurate down to 1/10th of a second.
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Originally Posted by Mike's LS3
In 2022, GM tweaked the cyclinder deactivation to improve gas mileage. Maybe, staying in V4 longer? No affect with performance or HP.
Your not in V4 mode at rest.
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Does the Draggy account for the initial roll-out? The on-board timer does, as do actual drag strips.
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Originally Posted by djpelosi
Someone posted a comparison with dragy to finally prove that the on board 0-60 timer is indeed highly inaccurate (timer is faster than actual). He ran 4 tests with a dragy and all 4 times the dragy showed a slower time than the on board timer did, one of which was as much as a .40 difference. Basically, if your on board 0-60 shows 2.6, you're likely really hitting a 3.0+
And we've seen others post results where the onboard was much closer to Dragy times - like within a tenth.

Basically, if someone is getting a 1/2 second or second + difference between Dragy and the onboard then they don't know how to set up their Dragy.
Like anything you gotta know what you're doing. But it doesn't matter - this whole "The Corvette dash is lieing!" has passed into Urban Myth status at this point.

Mine shows a ~.2s difference. I was getting 2.6s and 2.7 displayed and my Dragy was giving 2.83s and 2.87s on those same runs.
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Originally Posted by Hillslam
And we've seen others post results where the onboard was much closer to Dragy times - like within a tenth.

Basically, if someone is getting a 1/2 second or second + difference between Dragy and the onboard then they don't know how to set up their Dragy.
Like anything you gotta know what you're doing. But it doesn't matter - this whole "The Corvette dash is lieing!" has passed into Urban Myth status at this point.

Mine shows a ~.2s difference. I was getting 2.6s and 2.7 displayed and my Dragy was giving 2.83s and 2.87s on those same runs.
Show me posts where the on board was closer to Dragy times?
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Originally Posted by Racer X
The quoted times are at a standard temperature a pressure, and humidity. If your temperature is higher than that, altitude is higher than that, and humidity higher than that, you will not get the stated 0-60 times. Oh and no wind, and the whole acceleration length must be level. Deviations from the standard can and likely will produce different results.
Temp was 80, dew point 60 and 800 ft above sea level. I use 93 octane and had the tires at 28 psi.
I noticed about 15’ of black tire tracks on the blacktop, so maybe I’m having a higher et because of traction.
I might drop rear psi down to 23 and see if I gain anything.
I know the non Z51 won’t be as fast because of gear ratio, but I was surprised what that guy is getting with his non Z51
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Originally Posted by tsigwing
Your not in V4 mode at rest.
Never said you are in V4 mode at rest.

GM recalibrated the Active Fuel management and updated fuel system. This was to improve emissions and gas mileage. I do ot know the specific changes, just speculating on the possibility of staying in V4 longer when activated during light throtle cruise.

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If you are concerned about your 0-60 times, don’t move to Colorado Springs where I live. I only checked it once at a blistering 4.1 seconds. At an altitude of 6,500 feet and 85 degrees I loose over 100 horsepower. I never tested it when I was bringing it home from Michigan, but when I hit 500 miles somewhere in Illinois I got on it once and it was much faster than it is here. At over 12,000 feet it is much slower than my BMW M340xi. The turbo charger in the BMW keeps its 382 horsepower pretty high up.
When I lived in Florida my C7 Z51 felt so much more powerful at sea level than my C8. I hope someone comes up with a reasonably priced supercharger for us high altitude drivers.
Don’t get me wrong, I love the car.
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Originally Posted by gve
Temp was 80, dew point 60 and 800 ft above sea level. I use 93 octane and had the tires at 28 psi.
I noticed about 15’ of black tire tracks on the blacktop, so maybe I’m having a higher et because of traction.
I might drop rear psi down to 23 and see if I gain anything.
I know the non Z51 won’t be as fast because of gear ratio, but I was surprised what that guy is getting with his non Z51
Yep, should not have 15 feet of slipping tire! Assume you used Launch Mode. Pavement makes a difference. Recall when I was with Tom Hammonds (Pro Basketball player, later NHRA ProStock car at the time) at a Nation Meet at Charlotte Z Max. Was on the start line and almost tripped as I tried to walk! At National Meets there is so much sticky rubber at the start have to lift your feet straight up step very carefully.

PS: 23 psi sounds way to low. Might try 2 lbs lower on the slipping tire. I have my street rod rear coilovers adjusted to offset rear axle torque. Unlikely yours are off significantly but possible.

Have that issue with my street rod with an 8.2 Liter BB, 53% of the weight on the rear 16.5-inch section width Micky Thonpson tires. If one slips at launch because of the pavement, you have a 1/2 second to lift or it instantly makes a 90-degree turn in the direction of the slipping tires. Launch right and there are two even short black marks.

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Originally Posted by Hillslam
And we've seen others post results where the onboard was much closer to Dragy times - like within a tenth.

Basically, if someone is getting a 1/2 second or second + difference between Dragy and the onboard then they don't know how to set up their Dragy.
Like anything you gotta know what you're doing. But it doesn't matter - this whole "The Corvette dash is lieing!" has passed into Urban Myth status at this point.

Mine shows a ~.2s difference. I was getting 2.6s and 2.7 displayed and my Dragy was giving 2.83s and 2.87s on those same runs.
The pdr is not only inaccurate but its also not reliably inaccurate. If it was itd be great and you could just add .3 sec or whatever but its off by .3 on some runs and.8 on others and everywhere in between.

The dragy has been tested by dozens of people against timing lights and vbox. I probably have over a thousand runs on it on multiple platforms and have vbox myself and regularly take it to track rentals. Ive seen it accurate to.05 and .5mph




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It's based off GPS and has been tested multiple times to be accurate down to 1/10th of a second.
Commercial gps is accurate to about 10 meters, 3 meters if the device can receive WAAS. I don’t see that as more accurate as timing acceleration.
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Originally Posted by johnodrake
Commercial gps is accurate to about 10 meters, 3 meters if the device can receive WAAS. I don’t see that as more accurate as timing acceleration.
Dragy is as accurate as vbox and vbox is so accurate it is used by almost all professional publications.

Theyre not commercial grade gps. Accuracy is claimed to 2cm.










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I've never seen a draggy be that accurate compared to the times on the dragstrip slip. Maybe you have a different model...
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