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Old Feb 26, 2023 | 10:34 AM
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No wonder we get bombarded with the GM Nav Card Emails. Not that I use the vehicles Nav system instead of Google maps, but ..... The other day in my other GM vehicle (Acadia), I tried to use the Navigation GM supplies, but I received an error SD Card missing, but it was put in and yes I did all of the normal fix/retries. Extensive search - requires visit to dealer to fix - could be many different reasons.

Reason for even trying to use was Google maps didn't work - short answer I had changed my google password on desktop and not copied to phone so if you are not logged into Google, you can not use maps. It took quite a while to figure out the reason as there was no obvious error message - loaded, put in info, routing just didn't work. Thanks Skynet.

Reason for post here is - Has anyone with a C8 had this problem if they ever used it on the C8 vs their phone? I do not recall it being a C8 issue, but it is rampant with many other Chevy vehicles.
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I've seen a few posts from people having problems accessing the Nav card. In generally popping it out and putting it back in seems to solve it.
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Old Feb 26, 2023 | 03:55 PM
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I've seen a few posts from people having problems accessing the Nav card. In generally popping it out and putting it back in seems to solve it.
Thanks, no luck, even tried .... Apparently GM wide. Such a sales tool.
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I had Nav card issue. Took it to the dealer and GM is shipping a new card.
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My dealer is 2-4 weeks out on appointments, with multiple appointments required (Investigate, order SD card, install / no fix / order new reader, ...) I don't have months available to deal with it right now, so putting it off until summer.

Cost to dealer for new SD card is apx $450 under warranty - reimbursed
Not the $150/$99 we get in emails for RENEWALs.
That is why so many trips, ... Card is not transferrable to a different vehicle if it doesn't fix the problem.
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With all the third party apps available (I use Waze) isn't the factory GPS/Nav irrelevant? Wouldn't bother me if the factory nav went the way of the dodo bird. It should be an onboard nav, updated through the normal update system, without the need for a special card.
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I had a problem with the reader not releasing the card, but it still read the card. Dealer replaced the card reader. All was well after that.
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With all the third party apps available (I use Waze) isn't the factory GPS/Nav irrelevant? Wouldn't bother me if the factory nav went the way of the dodo bird. It should be an onboard nav, updated through the normal update system, without the need for a special card.
Different strokes. I don't like the iPhone navigation. All of the screen is taken up with Apple Car Play stuff. I like having the music and nav on split screen.
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Different strokes. I don't like the iPhone navigation. All of the screen is taken up with Apple Car Play stuff. I like having the music and nav on split screen.
Valid. But the need for a card is antiquated. You should be able to have factory nav without this 25 year old card technology.
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Originally Posted by cariboocreek
With all the third party apps available (I use Waze) isn't the factory GPS/Nav irrelevant? Wouldn't bother me if the factory nav went the way of the dodo bird. It should be an onboard nav, updated through the normal update system, without the need for a special card.
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Valid. But the need for a card is antiquated. You should be able to have factory nav without this 25 year old card technology.

As usual, threads deteriorate into off issues vs a discussion of the OPs question. It wasn't the merits of the C8's nav vs waze vs maps, it was if C8's were having the same problem and that was answered. The problem appears across ALL of GMC.

As to the merits merits of C8's nav, if you read the first post, my phone was inop re maps and for the first time I actually needed to use my Acadia's nav and discovered that it was inoperable. The same could have happened in the C8 if I had been driving it. My phone's maps were inoperable and if the C8's nav was inoperable I would have the same situation.

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SD is an antiquated mode. Should be OTA.
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Originally Posted by 2406TI
SD is an antiquated mode. Should be OTA.
Hey the card is a upgrade compared to the C7, where you had to take it back to the dealer to update the maps. GM will get to OTA updates in the C9. Maybe.
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No wonder we get bombarded with the GM Nav Card Emails. Not that I use the vehicles Nav system instead of Google maps, but ..... The other day in my other GM vehicle (Acadia), I tried to use the Navigation GM supplies, but I received an error SD Card missing, but it was put in and yes I did all of the normal fix/retries. Extensive search - requires visit to dealer to fix - could be many different reasons. Reason for even trying to use was Google maps didn't work - short answer I had changed my google password on desktop and not copied to phone so if you are not logged into Google, you can not use maps. It took quite a while to figure out the reason as there was no obvious error message - loaded, put in info, routing just didn't work. Thanks Skynet. Reason for post here is - Has anyone with a C8 had this problem if they ever used it on the C8 vs their phone? I do not recall it being a C8 issue, but it is rampant with many other Chevy vehicles.
I have a 2021 camero and got this error code. I read on another forum that if the read only slider gets slid to the lock position it won't function. I pulled the card out and slid the slider to the opposite position and reinsert it started the car and the error is gone. Nav functioning proper now. Hope this helps
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Thanks. I've done everything on every forum that everyone has mentioned plus standing on head while spinning a hulahoop on my left leg and juggling with the right one. Just kidding. Going to have to go to the dealership multiple times- they have a long series of steps to check because the parts are too expensive and they have to follow the GM protocol or they have to absorb the cost. However I do not have the time currently for this inconvenience.
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Originally Posted by cariboocreek
Valid. But the need for a card is antiquated. You should be able to have factory nav without this 25 year old card technology.
Don't disagree. Perhaps we will see that in the C9
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Originally Posted by cariboocreek
With all the third party apps available (I use Waze) isn't the factory GPS/Nav irrelevant? Wouldn't bother me if the factory nav went the way of the dodo bird. It should be an onboard nav, updated through the normal update system, without the need for a special card.
Waze and Google Maps for navigation are only as good as your access to cellular data reception. In remote areas and there are many, GPS navigation is the only way to go.

I agree the in car GPS navigation will hopefully go over the air, but imagine the update files would be huge in size.
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Originally Posted by Michael T*
Waze and Google Maps for navigation are only as good as your access to cellular data reception. In remote areas and there are many, GPS navigation is the only way to go.

I agree the in car GPS navigation will hopefully go over the air, but imagine the update files would be huge in size.
They would be large, but several companies, like Garmin, already do internet updates on many of their products, so the technology is available.
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Your phone will work for doing GPS without a cell or data signal. The one thing you need is to make sure you have the maps downloaded. Phones have had this capability for the last 5 years or so. This article is focused on hunting but the tips in it work regardless. https://www.onxmaps.com/hunt/blog/do...k-without-data
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Originally Posted by FlyinLow
Your phone will work for doing GPS without a cell or data signal. The one thing you need is to make sure you have the maps downloaded. Phones have had this capability for the last 5 years or so. This article is focused on hunting but the tips in it work regardless. https://www.onxmaps.com/hunt/blog/do...k-without-data
Yes, but you need to know you are going to an area without cell reception and plan accordingly. I've been caught more than once where I had to use the car's navigation because I either didn't expect an area to be without cell reception or made a last minute trip change that took me out of cell reception. Including when Google recommended a detour that took me out of cell reception.
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Originally Posted by Michael T*
Waze and Google Maps for navigation are only as good as your access to cellular data reception. In remote areas and there are many, GPS navigation is the only way to go.

I agree the in car GPS navigation will hopefully go over the air, but imagine the update files would be huge in size.
1. Google Maps and Waze ARE GPS navigation. Every smart phone has a GPS antenna in it, and that's what your phone uses for Nav. The only thing you need a cell connection for is to download and update the maps as you drive, and to search for locations. 2. Maps (and probably Waze, not sure), let you download maps to your phone in advance so even if you lose cell connection you can continue to havigate.

Google always prompts me to download maps if I plan a route that takes me away from my home area.
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