Soler TB ?
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Soler TB ?
I’ve seen a few comments regarding the Soler TB but I have yet to find any documentation (graph) of torque or hp increase. I didn’t see anything on their site either. Is there any data out there? For those that have one, …. thoughts? Thx!
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You're not going to see a significant amount of horsepower just with the ported throttle body. If anything maybe between 3 and 6 rwhp from what I have observed from a dyno run. So don't even waste your time just for that. However, by installing the ported intake manifold, ported 87mm throttle body, and an upgrade filter of your choice, you would be around 10 rwhp. Still not that significant but every little bit counts. Also, it is a DIY mod.....just follow the instructions given.
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You're not going to see a significant amount of horsepower just with the ported throttle body. If anything maybe between 3 and 6 rwhp from what I have observed from a dyno run. So don't even waste your time just for that. However, by installing the ported intake manifold, ported 87mm throttle body, and an upgrade filter of your choice, you would be around 10 rwhp. Still not that significant but every little bit counts. Also, it is a DIY mod.....just follow the instructions given.
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I do not have a C8, but I do have both the Soler throttle body and Bluetooth throttle controller on my C7. I never really expected a HP increase, but I installed both items in an attempt to eliminate a throttle lag on the car. In that regard, both items work well and the car is more responsive, especially from the initial off-idle scenario.
Whether the C8 has the throttle lag that the C7 has I do not know, but for me the products work.
Whether the C8 has the throttle lag that the C7 has I do not know, but for me the products work.
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You will receive the benefit of more airflow which equates to faster throttle response. You will experience a lower weight-to-power ratio at part throttle, making your driving experience more nimble and sprinted. You will experience crisper shifts and immediate response right off idling while keeping the idle function undisturbed. I will also provide you with a more in-depth explanation of the HP/TRQ gains for the Throttle Body.
When discussing gains, improvements, horsepower, torque, etc., two different parameters should be considered: wide-open throttle (WOT) and partial throttle. The gains achieved with partial throttle are independent of any other modification. However, when it comes to WOT, it becomes more of a system-wide effect, starting from the filter to the exhaust. As you get closer to WOT, the benefits will start to decrease (just from the throttle body) unless you have supporting modifications. However, they will not drop to zero. But, as you open up the entire system more, it will help the throttle body and the other modifications too. For instance, some customers have gained about 5-10 horsepower with no modifications (0, stock) by only replacing the throttle body at WOT. Conversely, on a heavily modified car, we have seen improvements of about 35+ horsepower just by replacing the throttle body (WOT).
Our primary focus was on drivability and improved performance in the partial throttle area (right after idle till about 50% to 80% blade opening). That increased airflow/hp/torque will always be there, regardless of anything else you add or remove. It is hard to quantify precise numbers for those gains at partial throttle (load dyno would be needed plus vehicle-specific scenarios). However, the percentage increase is significant, and you can feel it without a dyno. We do not claim any figures as there are too many variables and vehicle setups to consider. We strive to make the best valve possible available for these vehicles, with more features, design, and maximum possible airflow for the size. No OEM or competing throttle body flows more air or is vehicle-specific.
When discussing gains, improvements, horsepower, torque, etc., two different parameters should be considered: wide-open throttle (WOT) and partial throttle. The gains achieved with partial throttle are independent of any other modification. However, when it comes to WOT, it becomes more of a system-wide effect, starting from the filter to the exhaust. As you get closer to WOT, the benefits will start to decrease (just from the throttle body) unless you have supporting modifications. However, they will not drop to zero. But, as you open up the entire system more, it will help the throttle body and the other modifications too. For instance, some customers have gained about 5-10 horsepower with no modifications (0, stock) by only replacing the throttle body at WOT. Conversely, on a heavily modified car, we have seen improvements of about 35+ horsepower just by replacing the throttle body (WOT).
Our primary focus was on drivability and improved performance in the partial throttle area (right after idle till about 50% to 80% blade opening). That increased airflow/hp/torque will always be there, regardless of anything else you add or remove. It is hard to quantify precise numbers for those gains at partial throttle (load dyno would be needed plus vehicle-specific scenarios). However, the percentage increase is significant, and you can feel it without a dyno. We do not claim any figures as there are too many variables and vehicle setups to consider. We strive to make the best valve possible available for these vehicles, with more features, design, and maximum possible airflow for the size. No OEM or competing throttle body flows more air or is vehicle-specific.
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[QUOTE=SPT@SolerPerformance;1607461832] You will receive the benefit of more airflow which equates to faster throttle response. You will experience a lower weight-to-power ratio at part throttle, making your driving experience more nimble and sprinted. You will experience crisper shifts and immediate response right off idling while keeping the idle function undisturbed. I will also provide you with a more in-depth explanation of the HP/TRQ gains for the Throttle Body.
When discussing gains, improvements, horsepower, torque, etc., two different parameters should be considered: wide-open throttle (WOT) and partial throttle. The gains achieved with partial throttle are independent of any other modification. However, when it comes to WOT, it becomes more of a system-wide effect, starting from the filter to the exhaust. As you get closer to WOT, the benefits will start to decrease (just from the throttle body) unless you have supporting modifications. However, they will not drop to zero. But, as you open up the entire system more, it will help the throttle body and the other modifications too. For instance, some customers have gained about 5-10 horsepower with no modifications (0, stock) by only replacing the throttle body at WOT. Conversely, on a heavily modified car, we have seen improvements of about 35+ horsepower just by replacing the throttle body (WOT).
Our primary focus was on drivability and improved performance in the partial throttle area (right after idle till about 50% to 80% blade opening). That increased airflow/hp/torque will always be there, regardless of anything else you add or remove. It is hard to quantify precise numbers for those gains at partial throttle (load dyno would be needed plus vehicle-specific scenarios). However, the percentage increase is significant, and you can feel it without a dyno. We do not claim any figures as there are too many variables and vehicle setups to consider. We strive to make the best valve possible available for these vehicles, with more features, design, and maximum possible airflow for the size. No OEM or competing throttle body flows more air or is vehicle-specific.[/QUOTE
Thx for this. I assume this came from their site but I have not seen it until now.
When discussing gains, improvements, horsepower, torque, etc., two different parameters should be considered: wide-open throttle (WOT) and partial throttle. The gains achieved with partial throttle are independent of any other modification. However, when it comes to WOT, it becomes more of a system-wide effect, starting from the filter to the exhaust. As you get closer to WOT, the benefits will start to decrease (just from the throttle body) unless you have supporting modifications. However, they will not drop to zero. But, as you open up the entire system more, it will help the throttle body and the other modifications too. For instance, some customers have gained about 5-10 horsepower with no modifications (0, stock) by only replacing the throttle body at WOT. Conversely, on a heavily modified car, we have seen improvements of about 35+ horsepower just by replacing the throttle body (WOT).
Our primary focus was on drivability and improved performance in the partial throttle area (right after idle till about 50% to 80% blade opening). That increased airflow/hp/torque will always be there, regardless of anything else you add or remove. It is hard to quantify precise numbers for those gains at partial throttle (load dyno would be needed plus vehicle-specific scenarios). However, the percentage increase is significant, and you can feel it without a dyno. We do not claim any figures as there are too many variables and vehicle setups to consider. We strive to make the best valve possible available for these vehicles, with more features, design, and maximum possible airflow for the size. No OEM or competing throttle body flows more air or is vehicle-specific.[/QUOTE
Thx for this. I assume this came from their site but I have not seen it until now.
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No problem, here to answer any questions!
You will receive the benefit of more airflow which equates to faster throttle response. You will experience a lower weight-to-power ratio at part throttle, making your driving experience more nimble and sprinted. You will experience crisper shifts and immediate response right off idling while keeping the idle function undisturbed. I will also provide you with a more in-depth explanation of the HP/TRQ gains for the Throttle Body.
When discussing gains, improvements, horsepower, torque, etc., two different parameters should be considered: wide-open throttle (WOT) and partial throttle. The gains achieved with partial throttle are independent of any other modification. However, when it comes to WOT, it becomes more of a system-wide effect, starting from the filter to the exhaust. As you get closer to WOT, the benefits will start to decrease (just from the throttle body) unless you have supporting modifications. However, they will not drop to zero. But, as you open up the entire system more, it will help the throttle body and the other modifications too. For instance, some customers have gained about 5-10 horsepower with no modifications (0, stock) by only replacing the throttle body at WOT. Conversely, on a heavily modified car, we have seen improvements of about 35+ horsepower just by replacing the throttle body (WOT).
Our primary focus was on drivability and improved performance in the partial throttle area (right after idle till about 50% to 80% blade opening). That increased airflow/hp/torque will always be there, regardless of anything else you add or remove. It is hard to quantify precise numbers for those gains at partial throttle (load dyno would be needed plus vehicle-specific scenarios). However, the percentage increase is significant, and you can feel it without a dyno. We do not claim any figures as there are too many variables and vehicle setups to consider. We strive to make the best valve possible available for these vehicles, with more features, design, and maximum possible airflow for the size. No OEM or competing throttle body flows more air or is vehicle-specific.[/QUOTE
Thx for this. I assume this came from their site but I have not seen it until now.
When discussing gains, improvements, horsepower, torque, etc., two different parameters should be considered: wide-open throttle (WOT) and partial throttle. The gains achieved with partial throttle are independent of any other modification. However, when it comes to WOT, it becomes more of a system-wide effect, starting from the filter to the exhaust. As you get closer to WOT, the benefits will start to decrease (just from the throttle body) unless you have supporting modifications. However, they will not drop to zero. But, as you open up the entire system more, it will help the throttle body and the other modifications too. For instance, some customers have gained about 5-10 horsepower with no modifications (0, stock) by only replacing the throttle body at WOT. Conversely, on a heavily modified car, we have seen improvements of about 35+ horsepower just by replacing the throttle body (WOT).
Our primary focus was on drivability and improved performance in the partial throttle area (right after idle till about 50% to 80% blade opening). That increased airflow/hp/torque will always be there, regardless of anything else you add or remove. It is hard to quantify precise numbers for those gains at partial throttle (load dyno would be needed plus vehicle-specific scenarios). However, the percentage increase is significant, and you can feel it without a dyno. We do not claim any figures as there are too many variables and vehicle setups to consider. We strive to make the best valve possible available for these vehicles, with more features, design, and maximum possible airflow for the size. No OEM or competing throttle body flows more air or is vehicle-specific.[/QUOTE
Thx for this. I assume this came from their site but I have not seen it until now.
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[QUOTE=SPT@SolerPerformance;1607461832] You will receive the benefit of more airflow which equates to faster throttle response. You will experience a lower weight-to-power ratio at part throttle, making your driving experience more nimble and sprinted. You will experience crisper shifts and immediate response right off idling while keeping the idle function undisturbed. I will also provide you with a more in-depth explanation of the HP/TRQ gains for the Throttle Body.
When discussing gains, improvements, horsepower, torque, etc., two different parameters should be considered: wide-open throttle (WOT) and partial throttle. The gains achieved with partial throttle are independent of any other modification. However, when it comes to WOT, it becomes more of a system-wide effect, starting from the filter to the exhaust. As you get closer to WOT, the benefits will start to decrease (just from the throttle body) unless you have supporting modifications. However, they will not drop to zero. But, as you open up the entire system more, it will help the throttle body and the other modifications too. For instance, some customers have gained about 5-10 horsepower with no modifications (0, stock) by only replacing the throttle body at WOT. Conversely, on a heavily modified car, we have seen improvements of about 35+ horsepower just by replacing the throttle body (WOT).
Our primary focus was on drivability and improved performance in the partial throttle area (right after idle till about 50% to 80% blade opening). That increased airflow/hp/torque will always be there, regardless of anything else you add or remove. It is hard to quantify precise numbers for those gains at partial throttle (load dyno would be needed plus vehicle-specific scenarios). However, the percentage increase is significant, and you can feel it without a dyno. We do not claim any figures as there are too many variables and vehicle setups to consider. We strive to make the best valve possible available for these vehicles, with more features, design, and maximum possible airflow for the size. No OEM or competing throttle body flows more air or is vehicle-specific.[/QUOTE
Thx for this. I assume this came from their site but I have not seen it until now.
When discussing gains, improvements, horsepower, torque, etc., two different parameters should be considered: wide-open throttle (WOT) and partial throttle. The gains achieved with partial throttle are independent of any other modification. However, when it comes to WOT, it becomes more of a system-wide effect, starting from the filter to the exhaust. As you get closer to WOT, the benefits will start to decrease (just from the throttle body) unless you have supporting modifications. However, they will not drop to zero. But, as you open up the entire system more, it will help the throttle body and the other modifications too. For instance, some customers have gained about 5-10 horsepower with no modifications (0, stock) by only replacing the throttle body at WOT. Conversely, on a heavily modified car, we have seen improvements of about 35+ horsepower just by replacing the throttle body (WOT).
Our primary focus was on drivability and improved performance in the partial throttle area (right after idle till about 50% to 80% blade opening). That increased airflow/hp/torque will always be there, regardless of anything else you add or remove. It is hard to quantify precise numbers for those gains at partial throttle (load dyno would be needed plus vehicle-specific scenarios). However, the percentage increase is significant, and you can feel it without a dyno. We do not claim any figures as there are too many variables and vehicle setups to consider. We strive to make the best valve possible available for these vehicles, with more features, design, and maximum possible airflow for the size. No OEM or competing throttle body flows more air or is vehicle-specific.[/QUOTE
Thx for this. I assume this came from their site but I have not seen it until now.
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I would not hesitate to get the Soler TB. Had one on my C7 and one for my C8. One of the best mods for the money, and makes the car more enjoyable to drive!! You won’t be disappointed!
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On my C7, it was a breeze, about 20 minutes. I haven't put it on the C8 yet, but it doesn't seem that bad. Based on this video, it looks easier to take the intake manifold off with the TB as one piece. I have do have a ported IM that I'm going to install with it. I have an HTC, so it might be a little more involved.
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We also have a video gallery on our website where we have attached a bunch of customer install videos for you to refer to! Video Gallery — Soler Performance LLC (solerengineering.com)
