Track Alignment-Not
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From: Valley Forge Pa
Track Alignment-Not
I called the Chevrolet dealer that I have been using for service today to ask them to schedule the track alignment on my '24 and asked the cost. We discussed that I was looking for the alignment in the drivers manual and not some custom specs.
After being on hold for a while they came back and said they won't do a track alignment, which I thought was odd. I went to this dealer because when I looked for one near me with certified Corvette tech their name came up in my search.
I made an appointment with a well known shop , long time SCCA prep/racers.
Patriot Chevrolet, Limerick , Pa. Very Odd.
After being on hold for a while they came back and said they won't do a track alignment, which I thought was odd. I went to this dealer because when I looked for one near me with certified Corvette tech their name came up in my search.
I made an appointment with a well known shop , long time SCCA prep/racers.
Patriot Chevrolet, Limerick , Pa. Very Odd.
Le Mans Master
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They probably enter the year, model, ... into the alignment machine and it is preprogrammed vs having to input manually the "special" settings. Probably not interested in the extra effort, complications, responsibility (liability) should anything happen. Easier to prevent a problem than deal with court, lawyers, ...
Melting Slicks
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From: Oregon
2.5 degrees front negative camber, and 3.0 in the rear will cause extreme tire wear if you drive many street miles.
It may work great on the track at the apex of corners, but there is a downside to that much camber.
I have seen several cars oversteer and crash from too much camber in the rear.
Good at the apex, but when you exit the corner and really put your foot into it, the car is making peak power and torque just when the G forces let up.
The tire stands up straight and your contact patch gets way smaller. That's when the back end breaks loose and you lose control.
Yes, you will spin out when you exit the corner, on the straight.
Can you imaging drag racing and launch with 3 degrees negative in the rear wheels.
You are going to leave some funny burnout marks, and they are going to be real heavy on the inside edges of the tires.
It may work great on the track at the apex of corners, but there is a downside to that much camber.
I have seen several cars oversteer and crash from too much camber in the rear.
Good at the apex, but when you exit the corner and really put your foot into it, the car is making peak power and torque just when the G forces let up.
The tire stands up straight and your contact patch gets way smaller. That's when the back end breaks loose and you lose control.
Yes, you will spin out when you exit the corner, on the straight.
Can you imaging drag racing and launch with 3 degrees negative in the rear wheels.
You are going to leave some funny burnout marks, and they are going to be real heavy on the inside edges of the tires.
Race Director
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From: AZ
My dealer refused to do the track alignment or, using their special tools (which make sure the fluid in the ABS system gets changed) to do a track brake fluid change. A racing friend and I did the track alignment and, due to snow cancelling my track day, have not yet done the SRF brake fluid change. I will do that prior to the next track day. 2023 C8 Z06. I have Cup2R tires mounted on the OEM rims, purchased with my bonus GM points.
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From: Western Mass
2.5 degrees front negative camber, and 3.0 in the rear will cause extreme tire wear if you drive many street miles.
It may work great on the track at the apex of corners, but there is a downside to that much camber.
I have seen several cars oversteer and crash from too much camber in the rear.
Good at the apex, but when you exit the corner and really put your foot into it, the car is making peak power and torque just when the G forces let up.
The tire stands up straight and your contact patch gets way smaller. That's when the back end breaks loose and you lose control.
Yes, you will spin out when you exit the corner, on the straight.
Can you imaging drag racing and launch with 3 degrees negative in the rear wheels.
You are going to leave some funny burnout marks, and they are going to be real heavy on the inside edges of the tires.
It may work great on the track at the apex of corners, but there is a downside to that much camber.
I have seen several cars oversteer and crash from too much camber in the rear.
Good at the apex, but when you exit the corner and really put your foot into it, the car is making peak power and torque just when the G forces let up.
The tire stands up straight and your contact patch gets way smaller. That's when the back end breaks loose and you lose control.
Yes, you will spin out when you exit the corner, on the straight.
Can you imaging drag racing and launch with 3 degrees negative in the rear wheels.
You are going to leave some funny burnout marks, and they are going to be real heavy on the inside edges of the tires.
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From: Montgomery County, PA
Hi Soup4-
Subscribed to this thread as I’m curious how you make out @ Phoenix Performance, since I live relatively close. I have a 24 on order from Bergey’s in Colmar and I was planning on having them do the track alignment to GM specs, once I’m ready to track. However, perhaps a performance shop will be a better option.
Subscribed to this thread as I’m curious how you make out @ Phoenix Performance, since I live relatively close. I have a 24 on order from Bergey’s in Colmar and I was planning on having them do the track alignment to GM specs, once I’m ready to track. However, perhaps a performance shop will be a better option.
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From: Gilbert, AZ
2.5 degrees front negative camber, and 3.0 in the rear will cause extreme tire wear if you drive many street miles.
It may work great on the track at the apex of corners, but there is a downside to that much camber.
I have seen several cars oversteer and crash from too much camber in the rear.
Good at the apex, but when you exit the corner and really put your foot into it, the car is making peak power and torque just when the G forces let up.
The tire stands up straight and your contact patch gets way smaller. That's when the back end breaks loose and you lose control.
Yes, you will spin out when you exit the corner, on the straight.
Can you imaging drag racing and launch with 3 degrees negative in the rear wheels.
You are going to leave some funny burnout marks, and they are going to be real heavy on the inside edges of the tires.
It may work great on the track at the apex of corners, but there is a downside to that much camber.
I have seen several cars oversteer and crash from too much camber in the rear.
Good at the apex, but when you exit the corner and really put your foot into it, the car is making peak power and torque just when the G forces let up.
The tire stands up straight and your contact patch gets way smaller. That's when the back end breaks loose and you lose control.
Yes, you will spin out when you exit the corner, on the straight.
Can you imaging drag racing and launch with 3 degrees negative in the rear wheels.
You are going to leave some funny burnout marks, and they are going to be real heavy on the inside edges of the tires.
I think you meant 3 degrees in front and 2.5 in the rear. That is what the manual suggests, and it works really well with the factory suspension and tires. The car does not snap oversteer on corner exit. If someone drives like an idiot, they can make any RWD car snap the rear around, but on our cars, it’s not going to be because of alignment. Of course there is always the option of keeping traction and stability control active by using the various track modes but even in Race 2, the car is generally not oversteery on corner exit. It will hang the tail a bit, but I find it quite controllable and fun.
You are correct that the car launches like crap with negative camber in the back, but that’s not the purpose of the camber.
As for tire wear, it is way more affected by the toe setting than camber. I have almost 12k miles on my car now with the track alignment. I use my stock tires only for street driving, and they are not worn more on the inside than the outside. They will probably get to at least 20k they way they are wearing.
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No, it's not really that unusual for dealerships to decline anything "nonstandard." There's no shortage of such reports in the previous Vette series Forum sections here over the years. 