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Old Mar 30, 2024 | 12:43 PM
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Hey everyone,

This will be a lengthy post lol.. but i think all the info I need to say is important. I've been thinking over some decisions lately and thought this forum would be the perfect place to gather insights. Here's the situation:

I own a 2000 Corvette Manual C5 Convertible in Millennium Yellow, a cherished car from my father. With only 12k miles on the clock, it's more than just a car—it's a treasure trove of memories. Selling or trading this out of the question.

My daily driver, a 2017 Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti Sport with a performance package and jb4, has been a joy to own for the past four years. However, with its warranty set to expire next month, I find myself at a crossroads.

Here are my options:
  1. Do Nothing: Hope for the best and ride out any potential issues. While it's been smooth sailing lately, past experiences with a transfer case replacement and an exploding sunroof make me hesitant.
  2. Renew Extended Warranty: Despite the peace of mind, the idea of shelling out thousands for another warranty doesn't sit well with me, especially considering the possibility of losing interest in the car in the near future.
  3. Explore Used Alternatives: I'm leaning towards this. I'm in the market for something with better performance than my Giulia, but not necessarily brand new. Something that wont look old in a couple years, good resale value, and practicality for daily use are high on my list of priorities. Snow-friendliness would be a bonus, although not essential.
In my quest for a replacement, I delved into budget considerations. I've always viewed cars as depreciating assets, and theres a difference between what I can spend and what I should spend has been at the forefront of my mind.

After thorough research, I stumbled upon some eye-opening insights.

Consider this :
https://caredge.com/depreciation
  • A used 5-year-old Porsche, initially purchased for $70k, can sell for $52k after 5 years, costing $18k to drive during that period.
  • Conversely, a used 5-year-old Giulia, bought for $30k, can only fetch $19k after 5 years, costing $11k to drive.
This calculation was actually spot on. I bought my car in 2020 with 35k miles on it and I paid 30k for it. Now I just checked, and with only putting 24k miles on it in that 4 year time..the value dropped to right around 18k.
The minimal cost difference between the two, despite the Porsche being more than double the initial price, is interesting. This led me to reevaluate my approach to budgetary constraints, placing more emphasis on depreciation when considering generally reliable cars.

Models that fit this and caught my eye:
  • M2 Competition
  • Giulia Quadrifoglio (this doesnt depreciate bad. Much better than the ti sport I have)
  • 718 Cayman S/GTS
  • C8 Corvette
  • Porsche 911 Carrera S (991.2)
  • BMW M4 CS (2019) / BMW M5 Competition (2018-2020)
  • C63 S
  • RS5
Then crazier cars like
  • Mercedes-AMG GT (2018-2019)
  • R8 (2015-2018)
I had the opportunity to test drive a Rapid Blue C8 for a couple of days via Turo, and the looks were breathtaking. But, I couldn't shake the nostalgia for the raw feel of my C5. Nevertheless, the smoother ride of the C8 might make it a more suitable daily driver.

So, here's the big question: Do you think transitioning to the C8 as my daily driver while retaining the C5 for those leisurely top-down cruises is a wise move? I always want to want to drive the c5. I don't want anything to outshine it or make it obsolete.

Also interested in your thoughts on my approach to depreciation considerations. Does focusing on long-term depreciation make sense to you, or am I overlooking other important factors? I know things like insurance, maintnance, fuel, etc matter but if were talking about generally reliable cars, then it should be fairly equal.

Lastly, I recognize this is a Corvette forum, I'm open to suggestions. Do you believe any of the cars on my list or off my list would be better suited for me given I have the c5 and my needs?

Looking forward to hearing your insights and experiences.
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............ Do you think transitioning to the C8 as my daily driver while retaining the C5 for those leisurely top-down cruises is a wise move? I always want to want to drive the c5. I don't want anything to outshine it or make it obsolete.

Also interested in your thoughts on my approach to depreciation considerations. Does focusing on long-term depreciation make sense to you, or am I overlooking other important factors? I know things like insurance, maintnance, fuel, etc matter but if were talking about generally reliable cars, then it should be fairly equal.........
1. I drove a 98 C5 Convertible to work (100 miles round trip) every day for many years. If I was still working, I would most definitely drive my C8 to work every day, the same way. I would also say it has very usable trunk and frunk space for daily driving uses. A bit of a challenge for a long road trip with two, but may owners are finding that to be workable as well. I also purchased the Platinum Protection Plan. I waited til near the expiration of the 3/36 B2B warranty, then purchased the 8 year plan - which starts at time of purchase of the plan. I have had no issues with mine.

2. Depreciation. My thought only - its not something I worry about. You might want to check with your auto insurance company about the rate.
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Old Mar 30, 2024 | 01:03 PM
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My 2 cents: buy what sings to you. Then sell it when it no longer does. Life is short, YOLO.

Bought my C8 because I've always wanted to own a Vette since I was kid. Bought it with ZERO considerations for resale/depreciation plus got it used so the 1st owner already took the depreciation hit for me. FWIW, I had a Porsche 911 before the C8.
P.S. Another car that caught my eye is the Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing.
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Old Mar 30, 2024 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by stt816
Hey everyone,

This will be a lengthy post lol.. but i think all the info I need to say is important. I've been thinking over some decisions lately and thought this forum would be the perfect place to gather insights. Here's the situation:

I own a 2000 Corvette Manual C5 Convertible in Millennium Yellow, a cherished car from my father. With only 12k miles on the clock, it's more than just a car—it's a treasure trove of memories. Selling or trading this out of the question.

My daily driver, a 2017 Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti Sport with a performance package and jb4, has been a joy to own for the past four years. However, with its warranty set to expire next month, I find myself at a crossroads.

Here are my options:
  1. Do Nothing: Hope for the best and ride out any potential issues. While it's been smooth sailing lately, past experiences with a transfer case replacement and an exploding sunroof make me hesitant.
  2. Renew Extended Warranty: Despite the peace of mind, the idea of shelling out thousands for another warranty doesn't sit well with me, especially considering the possibility of losing interest in the car in the near future.
  3. Explore Used Alternatives: I'm leaning towards this. I'm in the market for something with better performance than my Giulia, but not necessarily brand new. Something that wont look old in a couple years, good resale value, and practicality for daily use are high on my list of priorities. Snow-friendliness would be a bonus, although not essential.
In my quest for a replacement, I delved into budget considerations. I've always viewed cars as depreciating assets, and theres a difference between what I can spend and what I should spend has been at the forefront of my mind.

After thorough research, I stumbled upon some eye-opening insights.

Consider this :
https://caredge.com/depreciation
  • A used 5-year-old Porsche, initially purchased for $70k, can sell for $52k after 5 years, costing $18k to drive during that period.
  • Conversely, a used 5-year-old Giulia, bought for $30k, can only fetch $19k after 5 years, costing $11k to drive.
This calculation was actually spot on. I bought my car in 2020 with 35k miles on it and I paid 30k for it. Now I just checked, and with only putting 24k miles on it in that 4 year time..the value dropped to right around 18k.
The minimal cost difference between the two, despite the Porsche being more than double the initial price, is interesting. This led me to reevaluate my approach to budgetary constraints, placing more emphasis on depreciation when considering generally reliable cars.

Models that fit this and caught my eye:
  • M2 Competition
  • Giulia Quadrifoglio (this doesnt depreciate bad. Much better than the ti sport I have)
  • 718 Cayman S/GTS
  • C8 Corvette
  • Porsche 911 Carrera S (991.2)
  • BMW M4 CS (2019) / BMW M5 Competition (2018-2020)
  • C63 S
  • RS5
Then crazier cars like
  • Mercedes-AMG GT (2018-2019)
  • R8 (2015-2018)
I had the opportunity to test drive a Rapid Blue C8 for a couple of days via Turo, and the looks were breathtaking. But, I couldn't shake the nostalgia for the raw feel of my C5. Nevertheless, the smoother ride of the C8 might make it a more suitable daily driver.

So, here's the big question: Do you think transitioning to the C8 as my daily driver while retaining the C5 for those leisurely top-down cruises is a wise move? I always want to want to drive the c5. I don't want anything to outshine it or make it obsolete.

Also interested in your thoughts on my approach to depreciation considerations. Does focusing on long-term depreciation make sense to you, or am I overlooking other important factors? I know things like insurance, maintnance, fuel, etc matter but if were talking about generally reliable cars, then it should be fairly equal.

Lastly, I recognize this is a Corvette forum, I'm open to suggestions. Do you believe any of the cars on my list or off my list would be better suited for me given I have the c5 and my needs?

Looking forward to hearing your insights and experiences.
Having owned four Porsche, including two 911, and five Corvettes, including two C8 HTC, plus too many other fun performance cars to list, I would go 911 or C8. You could probably buy a brand new c8 for about the same price of a nice, low mileage, unabused used 911 in today's market.

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Originally Posted by papillion
Wears me out reading this post. And I quit half way. Think I'll go for a drive to relax.
I feel you...here's a relaxing tune for your drive
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After a little bit of time on a track, it isn’t a high performance car that is needed, it’s a high performance road. Lol.

but for all out fun going slow, an old muscle car trying to stop and turn is exciting… and probably no real depreciation.

other than the Corvette, one of the Porsches would be my choice.

if this is your only car, then something that can haul stuff around like the Audi, then APR upgrade. I had a convertible A5, it was nice.
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Originally Posted by Fishfryer527
After a little bit of time on a track, it isn’t a high performance car that is needed, it’s a high performance road. Lol.

but for all out fun going slow, an old muscle car trying to stop and turn is exciting… and probably no real depreciation.

other than the Corvette, one of the Porsches would be my choice.

if this is your only car, then something that can haul stuff around like the Audi, then APR upgrade. I had a convertible A5, it was nice.
This would be my daily driver
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"So, here's the big question: Do you think transitioning to the C8 as my daily driver while retaining the C5 for those leisurely top-down cruises is a wise move? I always want to want to drive the c5. I don't want anything to outshine it or make it obsolete."

This statement deems you to be stuck with old technology and cheats you out of the pleasure of enjoying the new. I can easily answer your question.
The C5 will soon be 4 generations old.
DO NOT BUY a C8 or a C7 or even a C6, they are each improved over the prior generation with the C8 being the most improved. I have a 2019 C7 ZR1 and 2023 HTC and while I love driving the ZR1 and won't sell it, when I go into the garage to drive a Corvette, I gravitate to the C8.
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I don’t consider my C8 an everyday car mostly because it has no real cargo area. I have a NV200 I use more.
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Keep the 5 and look at my sig for clues as to my choice(s)
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Yer C5 is already obsolete. Still a fun car tho.
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For a daily driver its hard to beat a high performance SUV. if keeping the antique C5 I’d think about a Cayenne.
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Every response is biased in ways that may or may not have relevance to you. That said, I've kept all my sports/performance cars for years as I've bought new. Further, I'd not recommend used of any such unless you personally know the seller very well and approve his/her ownership practices. Still there are risks. So, why not keep what you have and extend your warranty, if that makes you more comfortable? All the best, in any event.
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I shouldnt say obsolete. I should say have no reason to feel like I wanna drive it.i want it to have its purpose still
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... I always want to want to drive the c5. I don't want anything to outshine it or make it obsolete.
The C8 will outshine and make the C5 seem obsolete.
Since depreciation $ is affected by the purchase cost, comparing some of the cars you list (at twice the price of a C8) may not be relevant.
Other than as a "daily driver" you might expand on what your needs are. C8 is OK as a daily driver but I am very, very happy driving a Honda CRV that costs minimal to operate and is a much better daily driver in the snow/rain/traffic/guests/luggage/hauling lumber, etc etc.

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This would be my daily driver
Great. Where do you live?

A daily driver is going to be two completely different vehicles for someone who lives in Minnesota and someone who lives in Georgia.
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After a little bit of time on a track, it isn’t a high performance car that is needed, it’s a high performance road.
Amen, having left SoKaif for N. AZ.

Originally Posted by stt816
I have no reason to feel like I wanna drive it.i want it to have its purpose still
In a similar 'boat'. Looking lots at a sorta DD, used C8 as my Callaway is too nice for other than infrequent leisure cruises... mostly solo.

I miss my C5 tri-black C5 Vert's supremely east entry/exit. It was quick, yet economical and quiet/smooth enough to have spousal company. The utilitarian aspect is agreed upon.

At 72 and winning, so far, over Stage 4 'C', life is on the short end and I insist on enjoying it to the max. Unusual, and lucky for me, a local C8 driver gave me an extended test drive and forced me to do three launches! I may not use the full handling capabilitries; definitely need no Z06, but being well over any German over-engineered, unreliable BMWx, it's MY time and part of MY therapy.
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How much stuff do you need to carry/pick up every day? If it's a small amount, the C8 deserves your consideration. If you need to carry more stuff more frequently then look elsewhere.
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I had the opportunity to test drive a Rapid Blue C8 for a couple of days via Turo, and the looks were breathtaking. But, I couldn't shake the nostalgia for the raw feel of my C5. Nevertheless, the smoother ride of the C8 might make it a more suitable daily driver.

So, here's the big question: Do you think transitioning to the C8 as my daily driver while retaining the C5 for those leisurely top-down cruises is a wise move? I always want to want to drive the c5. I don't want anything to outshine it or make it obsolete.

Also interested in your thoughts on my approach to depreciation considerations. Does focusing on long-term depreciation make sense to you, or am I overlooking other important factors? I know things like insurance, maintnance, fuel, etc matter but if were talking about generally reliable cars, then it should be fairly equal.
hello meow

easy answer: c7 grand sport or z06

raw feel, modern feel, front engine feel

more practical than c8. c8 does not make c7 obsolete, they feel diff. c8 feel more refined, c7 more fun (louder, raw)

no one will own a c8 out of warranty, everyone scrambling to buy c7 now no warranty; c7 depreciate slowly
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