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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 02:31 PM
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When I bought my C8 I never planned on taking it on the track like all my other Corvettes. I won a Vara Race University package in a charity auction which is a track driving school where you use your own car. The event is coming up this weekend so I don't have a lot of time to prepare.

Any concerns I should have using my base C8 for the track?

I heard some saying you need to add two extra quarts to the transmission for track use. Will that be needed for something like what I am doing? If so, should I just change my transmission oil at the same time and have them add 2 quarts (I am over half-way in oil life right now.
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That’s a great question and those are silly responses. You need absolutely zero track prep for your first 10+ hpde track days. Your car is designed and built to be there. Go have a blast and if you get hooked you’ll have plenty of cool new ways to go spend money with track prep stuff. If you don’t you will still be a whole new level of driver. Get your car tech inspected at any performance shop (most do it free) and probably change the oil when you’re done.
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If it doesn't have Z51, then I believe your warranty would not be enforced should something happen, Can you do it? sure you can do whatever, I would not without prepping the car. Brakes, Brake fluid, trains fluid etc.

Have you considered renting a Miata for the school? If you are there to learn then all things will apply.
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If it doesn't have Z51, then I believe your warranty would not be enforced should something happen, Can you do it? sure you can do whatever, I would not without prepping the car. Brakes, Brake fluid, trains fluid etc.

Have you considered renting a Miata for the school? If you are there to learn then all things will apply.
Driving school should be fine.
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If it's on any kind of track, the warranty will be no good if something happens. Will it survive a mild track day with a novice driver, probably but the brakes and cooling system aren't designed for it.
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I agree with Jstockton.
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That’s a great question and those are silly responses. You need absolutely zero track prep for your first 10+ hpde track days. Your car is designed and built to be there. Go have a blast and if you get hooked you’ll have plenty of cool new ways to go spend money with track prep stuff. If you don’t you will still be a whole new level of driver. Get your car tech inspected at any performance shop (most do it free) and probably change the oil when you’re done.
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Originally Posted by BigRobDsp
That’s a great question and those are silly responses. You need absolutely zero track prep for your first 10+ hpde track days. Your car is designed and built to be there. Go have a blast and if you get hooked you’ll have plenty of cool new ways to go spend money with track prep stuff. If you don’t you will still be a whole new level of driver. Get your car tech inspected at any performance shop (most do it free) and probably change the oil when you’re done.
Ha! Do you know how I know you have never put a C8 on the track? A base car is going to cook the brakes, eat the tires in one day, and possibly starve the DCT on high G corners. That's just for starters.
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Originally Posted by BigRobDsp
That’s a great question and those are silly responses. You need absolutely zero track prep for your first 10+ hpde track days. Your car is designed and built to be there. Go have a blast and if you get hooked you’ll have plenty of cool new ways to go spend money with track prep stuff. If you don’t you will still be a whole new level of driver. Get your car tech inspected at any performance shop (most do it free) and probably change the oil when you’re done.
Now that is funny, but wrong for a base.....
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If he’s never been in a track his tires will last 5 full weekends and his brakes will not even notice that he went. Like I said no prep at all necessary for at least his first 10 trips. Probably none necessary till yellow / advanced intermediate/ level 3 or whatever his run group calls it.
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Originally Posted by BigRobDsp
If he’s never been in a track his tires will last 5 full weekends and his brakes will not even notice that he went. Like I said no prep at all necessary for at least his first 10 trips. Probably none necessary till yellow / advanced intermediate/ level 3 or whatever his run group calls it.
Yikes, as an MSF LV2 Instructor... I can tell you from experience a Novice can still experience brake fade and eventually boil their brake fluid. Ask me how I know? Yes, from first hand experience. Student says shop reviewed the car and found their 1 year old brake fluid was still fine. Sigh... no it isn't...but that's fine let's ignore my sound advice to swap it out. Anyway, long story short student had an okay time because he kept having to slow down to finish the day. Day 2 - First session of the day he had officially boiled his brake fluid and was trapped in the gravel. Could have been worse...

High temp brake fluid is strongly recommended... at best your 200 (70 for SRF/Motul 600/660 and 130 for labor) out the door but that's one thing you don't have to worry about!
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Ha! Do you know how I know you have never put a C8 on the track? A base car is going to cook the brakes, eat the tires in one day, and possibly starve the DCT on high G corners. That's just for starters.
And a base C8 is still better than most cars. Even a lowly corolla can do driving school.
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Ha! Do you know how I know you have never put a C8 on the track? A base car is going to cook the brakes, eat the tires in one day, and possibly starve the DCT on high G corners. That's just for starters.
Quit talking out of your ***. What you just said is a complete lie, ask me how I know.
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It would depend on what the driving school has you do with your car...your base brakes/brake fluid would be the weakest link
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Quit talking out of your ***. What you just said is a complete lie, ask me how I know.
It's not a pissing match. Let the OP get back with us. If he has ANY pace he will destroy his front tires and cook his brakes in 1 day. You simply don't know what you are talking about. And if he is on the all seasons maybe 1/2 day max on the fronts. There simply isn't enough camber for the tires to survive even a moderate session. DCT may survive but it's a huge risk. And if it's a warm day it will be worse. Why don't you tell us your base C8 track day results on stock setup?
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Originally Posted by db4375
It's not a pissing match. Let the OP get back with us. If he has ANY pace he will destroy his front tires and cook his brakes in 1 day. You simply don't know what you are talking about. And if he is on the all seasons maybe 1/2 day max on the fronts. There simply isn't enough camber for the tires to survive even a moderate session. DCT may survive but it's a huge risk. And if it's a warm day it will be worse. Why don't you tell us your base C8 track day results on stock setup?
Ask Rick Conti, who tracked his non-Z51 car and cooked the brake fluid etc. Not a good idea...
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This is a very very bad answer to the op's question. Yes of course there is prep required for a C8 Stingray Z51 or a C8 Z06 (caution that a non-z51 is not designed for hard track work).

I track atleast 40 days in HPDE events a year and race an open cockpit race car in the SCCA. I put 13000 track miles on a 2021 C8 Stingray and I own three C8 Z06s that are exclusively for the track.

Attached see GM's track prep guides. I believe in the 24 Z51 one no longer needs to add the 2 qtrs to the tranny.



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That’s a great question and those are silly responses. You need absolutely zero track prep for your first 10+ hpde track days. Your car is designed and built to be there. Go have a blast and if you get hooked you’ll have plenty of cool new ways to go spend money with track prep stuff. If you don’t you will still be a whole new level of driver. Get your car tech inspected at any performance shop (most do it free) and probably change the oil when you’re done.
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I made one high speed panic stop with my non Z51 and it wasn't happy. I could tell that repeated stops like that were out of the question. The size of the brakes and pad material are just not up to the task of doing this over and over with a heavy car like this.
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Wrong!

Originally Posted by BigRobDsp
If he’s never been in a track his tires will last 5 full weekends and his brakes will not even notice that he went. Like I said no prep at all necessary for at least his first 10 trips. Probably none necessary till yellow / advanced intermediate/ level 3 or whatever his run group calls it.
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Correct!

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It would depend on what the driving school has you do with your car...your base brakes/brake fluid would be the weakest link
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Correct! Even with Z51 pads I ate virtually all pad material in 2 HPDE days. In 13000 track miles on a Z51 I should have bought stock in Brembo for the amount of pads and rotors I went through. Also spent $35000 a year in tires.

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I made one high speed panic stop with my non Z51 and it wasn't happy. I could tell that repeated stops like that were out of the question. The size of the brakes and pad material are just not up to the task of doing this over and over with a heavy car like this.
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