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Single adjustable coilovers almost always adjust rebound only. Compression is a set valving which is application specific. It does not adjust them both with one ****.
Not sure I agree with this statement.
I've used quite a few systems myself in the past that have been 1-way combined compression and rebound (together) adjustable (including the 1-ways I am currently running on my Lotus Evora S). Such combined adjustable 1-way kits are offered from Bilstein, Ohlins, etc. Let's not even go into the 'cross-talk' vs combined adjustable thing here Not to say there isn't many, yes likely the majority, of 1-way systems that adjust solely rebound (perhaps some that do compression only, but I've never come across any nor looked for them, nor would that really make sense to me...)
Originally Posted by Cicio Performance
As for corner balancing I believe there is some confusion here too. Shock adjustability has nothing to do with corner balancing. Corner balancing is a ride height specific action that has to do with distributing the physical weight of the car. ie. Lower the front and put more weight on the nose for better front grip and so on. That should be done with absolutely any coilover setup no matter if they are 1-way or 4-way shocks. If however by "corner balancing" you are talking about balancing the adjustment of the shock then I can understand. That said the non-remote 2-way MCS shocks are very easy to dial in both the rebound and compression. Matching the front corners and alike the rear corners is obviously very easy. However the individual adjustability of compression vs. rebound is very simple and extremely powerful especially on bumpy tracks.
No you are absolutely correct, that's just poor use of terminology on my part. I tend to lump the act of corner balancing together with adjusting rebound and compression (separately) as I'm used to a tech completing a full setup of the coilover system as even though compression/rebound settings dependent on my individual driving the tech can follow the basic rules for setting up 2-way adjustables (don't remember what they are but I know I've seen them somewhere). My point was that most people don't even know these short set of basic rules that should be followed when adjusting rebound and compression separately. Such rules don't exist for 1-ways.
I see you replaced the seats did you have any problem unhooking the connectors? I've come to a hault trying to take the passenger seat out because one of the connectors by the belt retractor looks similar to a clockspring connection and I can't find any information about it. Also who makes that splitter?
I see you replaced the seats did you have any problem unhooking the connectors? I've come to a hault trying to take the passenger seat out because one of the connectors by the belt retractor looks similar to a clockspring connection and I can't find any information about it. Also who makes that splitter?
Which connector? i assume you arent talking about the one under the seat.
The splitter is from LG Motorsports, this is not their production version, its a preproduction prototype, which for all intensive purposes is the production version just not as nicely finished, it works very well.
Which connector? i assume you arent talking about the one under the seat.
The splitter is from LG Motorsports, this is not their production version, its a preproduction prototype, which for all intensive purposes is the production version just not as nicely finished, it works very well.
Post 28 i give my thoughts on the cage. Spohn may have a different feeling than me.
Originally Posted by J5isalive
still time to back out! lol
Oh my. I might need to rethink this. I assume it would fit seats perfectly. I am 5’6 and while no one will really be riding with me during track days I don’t like the fact of being a passenger myself being pushed forward more than let’s say my wife at 5’3.
Oh my. I might need to rethink this. I assume it would fit seats perfectly. I am 5’6 and while no one will really be riding with me during track days I don’t like the fact of being a passenger myself being pushed forward more than let’s say my wife at 5’3.
i'm short as well... 5'8-5'9ish.... the stock passenger seat is pushed quite far forward with that bar. I dont mind cause i have the recaro seats that are thin, and my car is 95% track car. but just something to think about if yours is a street car.
Post 28 i give my thoughts on the cage. Spohn may have a different feeling than me.
Awesome write up! I'm right there with ya on the brake pedal issue! I'm not planning on passengers so I guess the RSR would work for me but I just started the search so we'll see. I have an assortment of parts coming in the next 2 weeks Verus Canards, Girodisc, Carbotech XP20, Forgeline 18" setup with A7's, and a lowering kit.
Did you upgrade sway bars? Also did you have any problems after you took your stock seatbelts out? Airbag light, etc.
Awesome write up! I'm right there with ya on the brake pedal issue! I'm not planning on passengers so I guess the RSR would work for me but I just started the search so we'll see. I have an assortment of parts coming in the next 2 weeks Verus Canards, Girodisc, Carbotech XP20, Forgeline 18" setup with A7's, and a lowering kit.
Did you upgrade sway bars? Also did you have any problems after you took your stock seatbelts out? Airbag light, etc.
Car is a 1LT Z51 car. I drove it on track stock with stock alignment, and on track stock with the track alignment... the car was equally terrible in each configuration. When you arent used to a car that rolls as much as the stock C8 does in the corners it really takes the fun away from driving it. The car is capable stock of some decent lap times if you are able to manipulate the weight and be patient in the car; I just wasnt able to and I just never felt comfortable in the car stock. Now with all the development i have cracked off some mid 1:35 lap times, which is decently quick. Hoping to squeeze some more out of it next time as we continue to refine the car.
Glad to hear the progression of the car has went well for you! So in current form you are cracking the mid 1:35 range and the above statement "Within the first few sessions on the new suspension system the owner, John, was able shave off 7 seconds from his lap time" indicates the car was 7 seconds faster with just the suspension, so what was the baseline lap times before any mods? I have searched for C8 stingray lap times at RA and find nothing, just curious what the C8 in stock form had to offer vs each change? I have only had the opportunity to track mine once at RA since I have owned it.
Glad to hear the progression of the car has went well for you! So in current form you are cracking the mid 1:35 range and the above statement "Within the first few sessions on the new suspension system the owner, John, was able shave off 7 seconds from his lap time" indicates the car was 7 seconds faster with just the suspension, so what was the baseline lap times before any mods? I have searched for C8 stingray lap times at RA and find nothing, just curious what the C8 in stock form had to offer vs each change? I have only had the opportunity to track mine once at RA since I have owned it.
a lot to digest there…. I’m not cracking off record lap times at all… but my comfort in the car has increased dramatically because of the suspension. The stock suspension was so soft and the laggyness of the suspension made me uncomfortable. I was driving around the car stock in the low 1:40-1:42 area…. I’d been faster than that in my GT3 but the corvette was trash and uninspiring…. Now I can run mid 30’s in the car consistently, the car is under me, I am confident.
as for pro times…. The car ran low mid 30’s in stock trim. After suspension it was about 2-2.5 seconds quicker…. After more mods we have a time in mind 😉 confident we will achieve it next time out.
yes I am being vague on the actual times ran, Yes I have all the data but it’s not right in front of me at the moment.
[QUOTE=J5isalive;1603731660]a lot to digest there…. I’m not cracking off record lap times at all… but my comfort in the car has increased dramatically because of the suspension. The stock suspension was so soft and the laggyness of the suspension made me uncomfortable. I was driving around the car stock in the low 1:40-1:42 area…. I’d been faster than that in my GT3 but the corvette was trash and uninspiring…. Now I can run mid 30’s in the car consistently, the car is under me, I am confident.
as for pro times…. The car ran low mid 30’s in stock trim. After suspension it was about 2-2.5 seconds quicker…. After more mods we have a time in mind 😉 confident we will achieve it next time out.
Understand the "confidence in the car" especially if you are coming from something as refined as the GT3. When I tracked my C8 at RA I certainly thought the suspension was soft for a track car but that is not the cars purpose. The majority, say 98%, may never do anything more than a spirted back road drive after they wax her up. For the rest of us we have to find our own way with the good help from folks like Cicio, LG, or countless others to get where we want the car to perform. Glad you and they are here to help see the benefits of the changes and quantify the results (when you can post) because that is what interest me and I am sure many others. Very interested to see the progression of the car as you further grow your confidence in the platform and the results with pros also. I did have one question I wanted to clarify regarding pro results were in "low mid 30’s in stock trim"? Did this mean 1:35.00-1:35.40? Thanks for the feedback John!