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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 04:57 PM
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Does any one know if the npp exhaust is still going to be a stand alone option on the 2023 c8 stingray...
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https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...d-price/config

Included w/Z51. Standalone $1,195 option for base.
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A great value as a stand-alone
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Can't find it on the build sheet..
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In the Build and Price Tool, under Options, Mechanical, Performance Exhaust



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Get black tips. The actual pipe diameter is larger and I swear it is louder.
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Get black tips. The actual pipe diameter is larger and I swear it is louder.

That's right it's louder being wider.
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That's right it's louder being wider.
What I'm saying is that there is a difference in pipe diameter on NPP if you spec black tips. NPP with the old 'square' silver tips has smaller piping.
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What I'm saying is that there is a difference in pipe diameter on NPP if you spec black tips. NPP with the old 'square' silver tips has smaller piping.
Interesting. I was already ordering black tips because I prefer the look, will be a nice bonus if they are a little louder. As an FYI, ordering black tips forces NPP order if people aren't aware (I was definitely doing NPP, but when configuring I happened to add black tips first and it automatically added NPP).
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There is now a $5000 exhaust option upgrade made by Borla. I wonder how it compares to the NPP?
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There is now a $5000 exhaust option upgrade made by Borla. I wonder how it compares to the NPP?
That option has been out for a while now. You have to order the NPP. Then order the GM Borla upgrade. Here are measurements that have been posted by Borla in other threads on this forum. These are direct quotes, from a while back. There could be later information that I don't know about."Unfortunately we don't test for maximum dB level. We use test standard SAE J1492 to measure the volume of our exhaust systems.
The Stock NPP exhaust averaged 86.6 dB in Touring mode and 89 dB in Track mode.
The S-Type averaged 92.4 dB in Touring mode and 101.3 dB in Track mode.
The ATAK averaged 100.9 dB in Touring mode and 104.4 dB in Track mode.

Using the same test standard, SAE J1492, the GM Borla system averaged 92.7 decibels in Track mode. It's only a bit more aggressive than the stock NPP exhaust."

Keep in mind that a 3dB increase is noticeable. Those who have the GM Borla report that it is louder. It will also have a different tonal quality - that many find more pleasing. It is subjective though.
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Originally Posted by Andybump
That option has been out for a while now. You have to order the NPP. Then order the GM Borla upgrade. Here are measurements that have been posted by Borla in other threads on this forum. These are direct quotes, from a while back. There could be later information that I don't know about."Unfortunately we don't test for maximum dB level. We use test standard SAE J1492 to measure the volume of our exhaust systems.
The Stock NPP exhaust averaged 86.6 dB in Touring mode and 89 dB in Track mode.
The S-Type averaged 92.4 dB in Touring mode and 101.3 dB in Track mode.
The ATAK averaged 100.9 dB in Touring mode and 104.4 dB in Track mode.

Using the same test standard, SAE J1492, the GM Borla system averaged 92.7 decibels in Track mode. It's only a bit more aggressive than the stock NPP exhaust."

Keep in mind that a 3dB increase is noticeable. Those who have the GM Borla report that it is louder. It will also have a different tonal quality - that many find more pleasing. It is subjective though.
Thank you for responding. I just noticed it was an option. So you have to select both NPP and Borla? Which Borla exhaust (ATAK, S-type, etc) is the upgrade referencing?
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Originally Posted by rckt
Thank you for responding. I just noticed it was an option. So you have to select both NPP and Borla? Which Borla exhaust (ATAK, S-type, etc) is the upgrade referencing?
It is a GM specific model, neither the ATAK or S-Type. That is why there is a separate sound pressure level measurement in what I posted above. Based on the dB levels above, the GM Borla is louder than the regular NPP, but not as loud as the S, or ATAK. As I noted, the tonal quality is different from the regular NPP (according to forum reports). The difference in tonal quality can be as important as the loudness.
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5k is a hefty price for a little sound difference.
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You're better off just ordering NPP, then if you don't like it, do an exhaust swap. That way you might be able to sell the stock NPP, and you should definitely be able to find an aftermarket exhaust cheaper than what GM is selling. Having to order NPP & the Borla, to only get the Borla seems a little crazy.
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I agree 100%.
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Originally Posted by rckt
I agree 100%.
The GM Borla exhaust used the existing actuators for both the AFM valves and the exhaust flow control valves, and has the supporting software to control the exhaust volume through the vehicle menu settings. Many other aftermarket exhaust systems also reuse those actuators, and would required the NPP to have been ordered. Some may be cheaper though, if that is what you want. If you dont want to control the volume, you can skip the NPP. Then get an aftermarket exhaust that does not have valves. It will loud all the time, if that is what you want. This will require the use of the AFM valve actuator simulators, however. The car will throw a code if it detects an issue with the AFM valves.
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