C8 Tech/Performance Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

C8 Track setup / help reduce further reduce understeer

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 23, 2023 | 08:01 PM
  #21  
allblackeverything's Avatar
allblackeverything
Instructor
All Eyes On Me
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Dec 2021
Posts: 234
Likes: 147
Default

Originally Posted by RafGTS
I also went with a larger front size based on allblackeverything's advice (thanks!). 285/645 up front significantly helped but I also noticed further improvement when I ran in Race 2 instead of Race 1 or Sport.
glad it’s helping!

I have to turn everything off because with these tire sizes the computer isn’t happy and intervenes wayyyyy too much
Reply
Old Sep 25, 2023 | 09:28 PM
  #22  
DBrinx's Avatar
DBrinx
Thread Starter
Heel & Toe
 
Joined: Aug 2023
Posts: 19
Likes: 3
From: Austin TX
Default

Quick update: I upgraded my wheels and tires to 275/35/18 and 325/30/19 as I wanted to keep the diameters similar to stock for clearance reasons. This significantly reduced the understeer problem and makes the car much more enjoyable to drive. My lap times went down without really pushing the car that hard. I will be installing the MCS 2WNR coilovers in a few weeks. Depending on the results I may install the aFe sway bars but many seem to think that will be unnecessary once the MCS suspension is installed.

On a side note, I also added the GiroDisc rotors, G-Loc R10 brake pads and steel brake lines. This made a big difference, giving much better braking feel and bite which inspires much more confidence on track.
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2023 | 10:22 AM
  #23  
Poppa Wheelie's Avatar
Poppa Wheelie
Heel & Toe
 
Joined: Jun 2023
Posts: 17
Likes: 15
Default

@DBrinx "...tires to 275/35/18 and 325/30/19 ..."

What tires are you running?
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2023 | 10:39 AM
  #24  
DBrinx's Avatar
DBrinx
Thread Starter
Heel & Toe
 
Joined: Aug 2023
Posts: 19
Likes: 3
From: Austin TX
Default

The tires are Continental ExtremeContact Force
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2023 | 10:32 PM
  #25  
B Stead's Avatar
B Stead
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 960
Likes: 40
Default

The understeer of a C8 is due to the suspension pushing against suspension or shock bushings that have give.

One fix is stiffer suspension bushings while another fix is stiffer springs for less suspension bump movement.

Lowering the car on stock springs, resulting in less spring preload, doesn't help.

When fixed, the car will handle more like a race car and could even swing out the rear-end just on too much entry spreed.

For driving style, don't trail brake of course. Well, don't load the front-end with braking on the turn-in. A driver might increase rear-end drift with mid-corner brake action. But with the right amount of entry speed then the driver begins adding a small amount of power at mid-corner. If a lot of power is added at mid-corner then the entry speed was to slow.

Last edited by B Stead; Oct 17, 2023 at 11:01 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2023 | 09:21 AM
  #26  
pmharris's Avatar
pmharris
Heel & Toe
 
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 18
Likes: 6
Default

Originally Posted by DBrinx
Quick update: I upgraded my wheels and tires to 275/35/18 and 325/30/19 as I wanted to keep the diameters similar to stock for clearance reasons. This significantly reduced the understeer problem and makes the car much more enjoyable to drive. My lap times went down without really pushing the car that hard. I will be installing the MCS 2WNR coilovers in a few weeks. Depending on the results I may install the aFe sway bars but many seem to think that will be unnecessary once the MCS suspension is installed.

On a side note, I also added the GiroDisc rotors, G-Loc R10 brake pads and steel brake lines. This made a big difference, giving much better braking feel and bite which inspires much more confidence on track.
what wheels and experience to date. Apex?
The Continentals are a top notch track tire.
Reply
Old Nov 27, 2023 | 07:46 PM
  #27  
4g63codi's Avatar
4g63codi
3rd Gear
 
Joined: Nov 2023
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by C8gofast
If anyone is interested, I have MCS 2way dampers for sale. They came off my C8 that participated in a weenie roast and now I have a ZO6. They are basically brand new.
I can’t pm where account is new - if you still have these I’ll buy them!
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2023 | 10:25 AM
  #28  
C8gofast's Avatar
C8gofast
Racer
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 410
Likes: 288
Default

Originally Posted by Codi@JinnSpeed
I can’t pm where account is new - if you still have these I’ll buy them!
They have been sold
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Feb 3, 2025 | 09:57 PM
  #29  
MccMike86's Avatar
MccMike86
1st Gear
 
Joined: Dec 2024
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Poppa Wheelie
Sway bars help a lot. I installed a front sway bar to counter the understeer. It made a huge difference! AFE bar set on the lightest setting and running bridgestone RE-71RS size 265 rails corners. The car now likes to oversteer a bit, but that's way more fun! If I wasn't restricted by the SCCA street category rules I would also install the rear sway bar to further dial in the car.

AFE Sway Bars
im trying to do some scca time trials this year in sport 1. Do they allow a c8 to add a front seat bar? I’m new to road course. I don’t know how to interpret the rules.
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2025 | 08:35 AM
  #30  
kjchristopher's Avatar
kjchristopher
Racer
Active Streak: 30 Days
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 287
Likes: 134
Default

Oops

Last edited by kjchristopher; Feb 4, 2025 at 08:36 AM. Reason: Misread post - wrong answer.
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2025 | 08:36 PM
  #31  
rlhammon's Avatar
rlhammon
Racer
All Eyes On Me
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2024
Posts: 353
Likes: 180
From: Michigan
Default

Originally Posted by MccMike86
im trying to do some scca time trials this year in sport 1. Do they allow a c8 to add a front seat bar? I’m new to road course. I don’t know how to interpret the rules.
Sorry you're not finding the rules easy to follow.
1.A. - "other safety equipment may be added..."

Reply




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:24 PM.

story-0
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-2
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE