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Old Jan 9, 2024 | 09:26 PM
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Installed catback this past weekend. Hit remote start right after to hear the exhaust.
This catback (hooker blackheart) was not supposed to throw codes but of course it did.
ordered sims for AFM and NPP.
but also at same time it threw remote start code which now doesn’t function, which I believe if the car has emissions codes it does disable remote start functionality.

after I install the sims, will I be able to clear the codes myself (have OBD Link MX2) and will I also be able to clear P31E8 which I believe is the remote start. And should that then work? Thanks

P12E7 cylinder deactivation

P12F6 cylinder deactivation

P31DE passenger NPP

P31E8 remote start?
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Old Jan 10, 2024 | 12:20 PM
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following - installed a Borla S and intermittently throwing codes as well.
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Old Jan 10, 2024 | 12:47 PM
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Im going to install my simulators from Paragon, try to clear codes myself and will report back. Hopefully do it this week. In the meantime - DAMN - our C8 cabins are so well sealed.......aftermarket exhaust is an absolute must. Driving the car past couple days is soooooooooo much more enjoyable.
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Installed CAT Black Atak exhaust as well and threw codes immediately and remote start is disabled. Called Borla, only way to clear issue is to have the re-learn process performed by a Chevy dealership, (mentioned buying a scanner and conducting the re-learn process myself, Borla stated it had to be performed by the dealer). So far, no dealer is willing to conduct the re-learn procedure. Not driving my Vette with a CEL!
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Installed CAT Black Atak exhaust as well and threw codes immediately and remote start is disabled. Called Borla, only way to clear issue is to have the re-learn process performed by a Chevy dealership, (mentioned buying a scanner and conducting the re-learn process myself, Borla stated it had to be performed by the dealer). So far, no dealer is willing to conduct the re-learn procedure. Not driving my Vette with a CEL!
Look for a certified Corvette service department. You should be able to find one that will do the relearn. Lots of after-market valved exhausts out there (I have a Borla S-type) and SOMEONE is doing the relearn procedure on each one of them. Also, no harm to drive with this particular CEL.
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Look for a certified Corvette service department. You should be able to find one that will do the relearn. Lots of after-market valved exhausts out there (I have a Borla S-type) and SOMEONE is doing the relearn procedure on each one of them. Also, no harm to drive with this particular CEL.

yeah, I need to schedule my three year ($1000) transmission service - figured they might throw in a relearn.
Other forum - guys are using this scanner - I bought the OBD Link MX 2 for $139. Gonna return and just get this one anyhow for $40 more.

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2 months ago I returned from the Borla factory with the CEL. (Borla ATAK) Right after the installation, the manager and I went to a local Chevy dealer and had the learning process done. Within 2 miles the CEL returned. I was prepared for this and had purchased the previously noted "gizmo" on this site. Everything worked well and no CEL's since.

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Ordered the X431 OBD scanner - arrives next week.
in the interim, installed the four Paragon simulators.
after a bit, the cel is gone AND the remote start now works.
Thanks Paragon!
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Originally Posted by TeamBFT
Installed catback this past weekend. Hit remote start right after to hear the exhaust.
This catback (hooker blackheart) was not supposed to throw codes but of course it did.
ordered sims for AFM and NPP.
but also at same time it threw remote start code which now doesn’t function, which I believe if the car has emissions codes it does disable remote start functionality.

after I install the sims, will I be able to clear the codes myself (have OBD Link MX2) and will I also be able to clear P31E8 which I believe is the remote start. And should that then work? Thanks

P12E7 cylinder deactivation

P12F6 cylinder deactivation

P31DE passenger NPP

P31E8 remote start?
Code P31E8 does not appear in the 2020 version of the Service Manual that I have. I searched for "remote start" and no codes with that in the description appear. I searched on "remote" and there are a lot of codes described as being related to "remote functions",but none of those are close to P31E8. I also searched for "start". There are lots of codes related to the 12 volt starting system - but nothing about remote start. I was hoping to find something that might explain why that would come up related to your modification, but I can't.


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Originally Posted by Andybump
Code P31E8 does not appear in the 2020 version of the Service Manual that I have. I searched for "remote start" and no codes with that in the description appear. I searched on "remote" and there are a lot of codes described as being related to "remote functions",but none of those are close to P31E8. I also searched for "start". There are lots of codes related to the 12 volt starting system - but nothing about remote start. I was hoping to find something that might explain why that would come up related to your modification, but I can't.
after additional research I think that code is also related to exhaust valves. I guess when there is an emissions “malfunction” remote start is disabled but doesn’t necessarily throw a code.
but everything is working great now
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Perfect thread because i also got the hooker exhaust and it wasn't supposed to throw codes.

It throws codes every track day, but recently it has been pretty much permanent. So i went to inspecting, and for something else, glad i checked!

The right exhaust flange nut (from the CAT) straight up fell off and started a leak that burned through my airbox.

Still wondering what it is that could cause these i have some theories, but kind of hard to test.

Anyway, i think my flap issues remain though, but one solution at a time.






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Perfect thread because i also got the hooker exhaust and it wasn't supposed to throw codes.

It throws codes every track day, but recently it has been pretty much permanent. So i went to inspecting, and for something else, glad i checked!

The right exhaust flange nut (from the CAT) straight up fell off and started a leak that burned through my airbox.

Still wondering what it is that could cause these i have some theories, but kind of hard to test.

Anyway, i think my flap issues remain though, but one solution at a time.





Thats insane! Any idea? I assume it was torqued down well? Left one is easy to get to.....its the flange on the right, bottom nut thats a beech.
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Originally Posted by MarkMeHopeful
Look for a certified Corvette service department. You should be able to find one that will do the relearn. Lots of after-market valved exhausts out there (I have a Borla S-type) and SOMEONE is doing the relearn procedure on each one of them. Also, no harm to drive with this particular CEL.
Thanks for the feedback, found a performance shop that specializes in Corvettes and was familiar with the relearn process. Trying a dealer in Daytona before I take it to them. I agree, someone is performing the relearn procedure, just have to locate the dealer.
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Originally Posted by COBVETTE32
Thanks for the feedback, found a performance shop that specializes in Corvettes and was familiar with the relearn process. Trying a dealer in Daytona before I take it to them. I agree, someone is performing the relearn procedure, just have to locate the dealer.
Just buy the Launch X431 obd tool
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Originally Posted by COBVETTE32
Thanks for the feedback, found a performance shop that specializes in Corvettes and was familiar with the relearn process. Trying a dealer in Daytona before I take it to them. I agree, someone is performing the relearn procedure, just have to locate the dealer.
If you go with the performance shop, make sure they can actually do the GM service official relearn procedure, not just exercise the valves open and closed. They have to be able to teach the computer about the valve motion.
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