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Old Jan 12, 2024 | 01:24 PM
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Default C6 Sequential Port Injection v C8 DI

Per YouTube videos Dual Injection or
Port Injection only are rendered obsolete
by modern Direct Injection.
To mitigate any carbon buildup to
intake valve I would change oil every 3,000 miles
with synthetic oil, avoid short trips especially during winter and an Italian Tuneup once a month.
Oil is cheap; engine and poor MPG are not.

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And use Top Tier gas.
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Add a Catch Can !!


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And use Top Tier gas.
Isn’t all gas sold in California and Costco top tier
labeled?
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Add a Catch Can !!

Who in California you recommend to install?
I live near San Francisco and Santa Clara counties.
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Isn’t all gas sold in California and Costco top tier
labeled?
Not all. I don't think I could trust Circle K or 7-11 gas.

https://www.toptiergas.com/gasoline-brands/


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Originally Posted by mikeflores2000
Who in California you recommend to install?
I live near San Francisco and Santa Clara counties.
You can do it yourself in about 30 min or less. There are options for catch cans out there. I have a Mishimoto. If you check out Paragon's website you can find a video on how to install. Same with Mishimoto. Very easy and straight forward.
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Originally Posted by mikeflores2000
Per YouTube videos Dual Injection or
Port Injection only are rendered obsolete
by modern Direct Injection.
To mitigate any carbon buildup to
intake valve I would change oil every 3,000 miles
with synthetic oil, avoid short trips especially during winter and an Italian Tuneup once a month.
Oil is cheap; engine and poor MPG are not.

https://youtu.be/qqu0V_iMBow?si=U523jvnIBKddgfH7

https://youtu.be/MIDItBqX3SQ?si=pBANCnJWe_llzAs3
Do we have any evidence of this on the C8?
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Do we have any evidence of this on the C8?
Evidence of what?
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Originally Posted by mikeflores2000
Evidence of what?
I assume he's referring to valve coking but not sure. I doubt we have enough miles on a large enough pool of cars to know if it's going to be an issue or not. If that's what he's referring to.
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There now a quarter million LT1/LT2 engined Corvettes on the road, some for over a decade with over 100K miles on them. I have yet to see someone post they had a problem attributed to coking or post pictures of intakes with excessive carbon buildup on a unmodified street driven car. You'd think if it was a problem there would be at least a few pictures posted by now.
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There now a quarter million LT1/LT2 engined Corvettes on the road, some for over a decade with over 100K miles on them. I have yet to see someone post they had a problem attributed to coking or post pictures of intakes with excessive carbon buildup on a unmodified street driven car. You'd think if it was a problem there would be at least a few pictures posted by now.
True. I was assuming, perhaps incorrectly, that the C8's LT2 was somehow "different" with respect to blow-by management.
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As far as catch cans, I would lean towards Mighty Mouse. Anything that collects oil is a win, as long as it flows freely, not a restriction.
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Originally Posted by mikeflores2000
Per YouTube videos Dual Injection or
Port Injection only are rendered obsolete
by modern Direct Injection.
To mitigate any carbon buildup to
intake valve I would change oil every 3,000 miles
with synthetic oil, avoid short trips especially during winter and an Italian Tuneup once a month.
Oil is cheap; engine and poor MPG are not.

https://youtu.be/qqu0V_iMBow?si=U523jvnIBKddgfH7

https://youtu.be/MIDItBqX3SQ?si=pBANCnJWe_llzAs3
Hmm, the C8 per an excellent Automotive writer, engineer, race car drive the C8 already has a form of Catch Can. Here are some Pics with my experience with 2 C7s and why I never added to my C8. IF you track where you'll be at WOT a high percentage of time "perhaps" but for street driving, could even screw up what GM have built into the C8!


Like many, was concerned about Coking with my early 2014 C7, 1st high performance engine GM had used DI. On lower hp "grocery getters" DI s less likely and issue. BUT on a high hp, high performance engine the intake valve gets HOT. More likely to bake PCV stuff on the back of the intake valve. Before DI you would see ads from gasoline companies reminding the gasoline was NOT ENOUGH with port injection, carburetors etc to wash off PCV stuff! Had to use TOP Tier gas etc. Since zero gas passes over the back of hot intake valves it's useless with DI!

BMW and Ferrari had DI on high performance engines BEFORE GM and had ISSUES. Some BMWs used walnut blasting to eliminate backed on carbon, called Coking!"



So I added a Catch can to my 2014 C7 Z51 only street driven, often aggressively BUT not a high percentage with WOT. I collected ~1oz/1000 miles. That was 1 oz of PCV "stuff" (mostly oil and oil vapor" that could not bake on the back of the hot intake valves.) It may have helped. But as RKCRLR mentioned the C7/C8 have no reported issues in street driven cars. Perhaps some in cars that are frequently Tracked or Raced. But as Tadge Juechter said in 2014 it's mostly a cosmetic issue.

BUT then GM spent a lot of time and engineering to improve that "no problem" PCV system on my 2017 Grand Sport. I transferred my "Can" to the Grand Sport but did the research to assure "I was doing no harm." Even installed a pressure vacuum gauge to define where the fresh air was coming from that went into the Crankcase. It has very complex plumbing and I was collecting <1/2 oz per 1000 miles, not worth the effort. In addition, a tech article stated a small amount of oil does HELP lubricate the Intake valve guides! Removed it!




If you Track, perhaps there is a benefit at WOT- perhaps NOT! To each their own!

PS: That Italian Tune Up you referred to I often did with Carburetors or Port Injection. Could help as the rich gasoline mixture at WOT might have helped reduce coking of the intake valves and might reduce combustion chamber carbon. BUT WITH DI probably makes Coking on the back of the Intake Valves Worst as your just letting the intake valve operator hotter.

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