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Klauser, . . . suggested racing will remain part of the C8.R’s future, but the precise form it will take from next year is still being mulled over at GM’s top level. “There’s quite a bit of re-engineering to do to turn a car from GT Le Mans class into GT Daytona class,” “The other big thing is, it’s quite a different mentality to go down a customer platform route with a GT3 car than when you build a GTE car that you know is going to be factory-built and -run. “You have to pull a lot of cost out of something that you designed to be factory-run to make it affordable for the customer. “So one of the things that we’ve had to look at when trying to figure out where we want to race is the fact that if we go GT3 racing with Corvette, to use the racecar we have today would involve a huge tear-up. We’re likely looking at cutting the car’s cost in half and moving forward from there. So it’s no small feat and, to be honest, I see it as likely being a brand new program; you’re not totally starting from scratch… but really you are!”
“The program team is all-in when it comes to us campaigning the car on the racetrack, they’re all into the idea of building the production car and the racecar side by side.
One thing not mentioned in the article is that a customer available GT3 car with the DOHC flat plane engine solves the problem of production engine qualification WITHOUT using the engine in other cars. Only need to build and sell 300 GT3 cars. Purchase price?
Last edited by Kodiak Bear; Mar 10, 2021 at 05:01 PM.
One thing not mentioned in the article is that a customer available GT3 car with the DOHC flat plane engine solves the problem of production engine qualification WITHOUT using the engine in other cars. Only need to build and sell 300 GT3 cars. Purchase price?
Good! Now they can just put a TT into the new 3,700 lb Z and be done with it.
One thing not mentioned in the article is that a customer available GT3 car with the DOHC flat plane engine solves the problem of production engine qualification WITHOUT using the engine in other cars. Only need to build and sell 300 GT3 cars. Purchase price?
Akin to what they did early in the C5 years, after the hardtop coupe was released. They "built" (heh) some 200 or so hardtop cars for racers to purchase. Mostly un-assembled.
Many didn’t know, but from 1999 to 2001 you could buy a Corvette C5 ‘kit car’ straight from GM’s service and parts division; however, there were some drawbacks. The car didn’t come complete, hence “kit car.” Basically, what you got was a C5 chassis, motor, drivetrain, and other necessities, with the details left to the buyer to sort out. Due to some logistical problems, customers didn’t get their body panels until a few weeks after ordering the car.
It would be nice to see gm finally support privateers like every other oem does.
I agree and I think the GTD class would be a great place to showcase the car amongst other sports cars would elevate the Corvette in the public eye. Would love to pick one up from a private team eventually to run in STU
It would be nice to see gm finally support privateers like every other oem does.
As a correction, it is more accurate to finally see support from Corvette (instead of saying GM). Caddy is the only customer DPI program. The Camaro GT.4 is entirely a customer program.
And Corvette isn't totally unsupported (although not supported like many others). Corvette selected Callaway to build and run their C7 GT3 program, and you could have purchased one for years now -- and even run it in GTD. But that wasn't really GM support, just an outsourced GT3 program. They also sold a handful of GTE cars to customers that were run in ALMS and Le Mans, but no one seems to be running those anymore.
I've also responded to the OP in the other thread that it was posted in, because there are some inaccuracies there.
One thing not mentioned in the article is that a customer available GT3 car with the DOHC flat plane engine solves the problem of production engine qualification WITHOUT using the engine in other cars. Only need to build and sell 300 GT3 cars. Purchase price?
If you follow racing long enough, you realize that its a sucker's game.... the rules change all the time... the sanctioning bodied want to get manufacturers involved ($$$$$) and then realize that whoever spends the most money wins, and everyone else drops out, so they re-jig the rules to keep the losers competitive, and everybody gets fed up, and and they invent a new "formula"..... and on and on...
I've loved racing since I was a kid, and raced cars for over a decade, and its in my blood.... but it's still a sucker's game....
Hello...if you race in a higher end "Amateur" race series, like PCA, ... and be competitive to win, or at least consistently podium in a competitive class...
Here's the numbers.... $40-100K for the car, $20K for set-up... bare-bones, $5K per weekend for expense if you do all your wrenching yourself, but go to $8-10K for a full "arrive and drive"..(which you need to do BTW).... not including any misfortune, like a trip into a tire wall, or blown-up engine... put some $00,000 on that, (and holds the onions). That's Howdy Doody racing, there friends....
Doing an IMSA race, if you can't **** 6 figures out your ***, don't knock on the door....
A Corvette GT3 car is probably $500K+
The Mercedes is about $475k, the Acura is like $560K Plus a mandatory $100k spares package.
The Camaro GT4 car is $260K, and a GT3 car is way more....
Don't think "GT3" like some cars put stickers on their street cars. These are all out race cars.
Originally Posted by Racingswh
I had no idea they were that expensive. Over 600k for the Ferrari too. Damn. Way more than I expected for the Camaro as well. Thanks for that info.
I think Z28 is posting realistic cost numbers and the interesting thing is (the suckers mention in previous post) that existing programs are targeting an aspiring demographic versus the expert demographic. I think OEMs figured out there is more money in pulling in aspiring young Dad's kids than making this a affordable and approachable program. Personally I am all for it if the GT3 program is targeted and a self sufficient program, but for me the problem would start when they start passing costs to the commercial offerings.
Akin to what they did early in the C5 years, after the hardtop coupe was released. They "built" (heh) some 200 or so hardtop cars for racers to purchase. Mostly un-assembled.
GT3 AM customers are high networth individuals looking to live out their fantasy and want an experience to go along with it. Program will be DOA if they try this approach. They've been around racing long enough to know how appeal to the GT3 market.
Last edited by Robert R1; Mar 13, 2021 at 01:26 AM.