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Drifting
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If Z06 gets a very good review from this channel, it will be very impressive. These guys are pretty much the only channel in youtube that does a very thorough review of any car they are working with. They spend as much as 30-40% of the time under the car going over all relevant components. They drive the car in track, on the road, talk about anything from sound system to leather quality to seats to tire performance. No one is perfect and I'm sure some of the things they say is subjective but they are as objective as you can get in youtube. They like GT3s and other 911s because as much as people here subjectively hate the looks of a 911, objectively it is the best in class. So a channel like theirs favoring GT3s make sense as everyone, which I bet my money on includes the top Corvette engineers, know that GT3 elevates that segment to levels that no one else can. Nothing wrong with that.
Here is their GT3 review and this is what they will compare Z06 against. There is also a segment in that video where one of the senior Porsche execs talk about C8 which what I consider a positive comment. I'm pretty sure Porsche people in stuttgart is damn impressed with Z06.
Here is their GT3 review and this is what they will compare Z06 against. There is also a segment in that video where one of the senior Porsche execs talk about C8 which what I consider a positive comment. I'm pretty sure Porsche people in stuttgart is damn impressed with Z06.
Safety Car
Joined: Sep 2004
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From: Western Chicago Suburbs
If Z06 gets a very good review from this channel, it will be very impressive. These guys are pretty much the only channel in youtube that does a very thorough review of any car they are working with. They spend as much as 30-40% of the time under the car going over all relevant components. They drive the car in track, on the road, talk about anything from sound system to leather quality to seats to tire performance. No one is perfect and I'm sure some of the things they say is subjective but they are as objective as you can get in youtube. They like GT3s and other 911s because as much as people here subjectively hate the looks of a 911, objectively it is the best in class. So a channel like theirs favoring GT3s make sense as everyone, which I bet my money on includes the top Corvette engineers, know that GT3 elevates that segment to levels that no one else can. Nothing wrong with that.
Here is their GT3 review and this is what they will compare Z06 against. There is also a segment in that video where one of the senior Porsche execs talk about C8 which what I consider a positive comment. I'm pretty sure Porsche people in stuttgart is damn impressed with Z06.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF7jDHIAfL8
Here is their GT3 review and this is what they will compare Z06 against. There is also a segment in that video where one of the senior Porsche execs talk about C8 which what I consider a positive comment. I'm pretty sure Porsche people in stuttgart is damn impressed with Z06.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF7jDHIAfL8
I’m expecting a similarly in depth review. Don’t think they’ll be able to get it up on a lift like they often do, but I expect the content to be very detailed regardless. They know how big this review will be given the hype of the car. Wondering if they tested a Z07 as well?
Burning Brakes
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From: ATX
Welp, savagegeese doesn't give track numbers, so you won't care for it. What he does give is an in depth review on street and on track, and provides a pretty straight evaluation of cars. He seems to be on point for the cars I own and have owned, including calling out their faults.
Drifting
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From: PA
Welp, savagegeese doesn't give track numbers, so you won't care for it. What he does give is an in depth review on street and on track, and provides a pretty straight evaluation of cars. He seems to be on point for the cars I own and have owned, including calling out their faults.
There's a reason GM hasn't given us any numbers on this car and they are not good reasons obviously. If this was some amazing vehicle that they were super proud of they would have already released these world beating numbers. Clearly the car underperforms and that's why they won't sell it to us now.
It's probably not worth keeping and only worth flipping at this point while the hype is still around. I have a feeling that a lot of people, aside from the old men that just cruise at 50-mile per hour and never actually drive these cars, are going to be really disappointed.
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But don't forget there are still A LOT of people who want this car because it will be the last of it's kind. After this it's hybrid, or maybe straight to EV in the C9.
This is similar to those who are buying an MKV supra with the manual because that'll be the last of it's kind. Or a porsche GT3 manual.
So yes it's really about track numbers with these cars but that's not really the entire story when it comes to buying them.
When i get my C8Z, the car will never see a track in it's life. I am only getting this car literally for it's engine.
Melting Slicks
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I totally agree on the track numbers etc.
But don't forget there are still A LOT of people who want this car because it will be the last of it's kind. After this it's hybrid, or maybe straight to EV in the C9.
This is similar to those who are buying an MKV supra with the manual because that'll be the last of it's kind. Or a porsche GT3 manual.
So yes it's really about track numbers with these cars but that's not really the entire story when it comes to buying them.
When i get my C8Z, the car will never see a track in it's life. I am only getting this car literally for it's engine.
But don't forget there are still A LOT of people who want this car because it will be the last of it's kind. After this it's hybrid, or maybe straight to EV in the C9.
This is similar to those who are buying an MKV supra with the manual because that'll be the last of it's kind. Or a porsche GT3 manual.
So yes it's really about track numbers with these cars but that's not really the entire story when it comes to buying them.
When i get my C8Z, the car will never see a track in it's life. I am only getting this car literally for it's engine.
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Drifting
Joined: Dec 2019
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From: PA
I totally agree on the track numbers etc.
But don't forget there are still A LOT of people who want this car because it will be the last of it's kind. After this it's hybrid, or maybe straight to EV in the C9.
This is similar to those who are buying an MKV supra with the manual because that'll be the last of it's kind. Or a porsche GT3 manual.
So yes it's really about track numbers with these cars but that's not really the entire story when it comes to buying them.
When i get my C8Z, the car will never see a track in it's life. I am only getting this car literally for it's engine.
But don't forget there are still A LOT of people who want this car because it will be the last of it's kind. After this it's hybrid, or maybe straight to EV in the C9.
This is similar to those who are buying an MKV supra with the manual because that'll be the last of it's kind. Or a porsche GT3 manual.
So yes it's really about track numbers with these cars but that's not really the entire story when it comes to buying them.
When i get my C8Z, the car will never see a track in it's life. I am only getting this car literally for it's engine.
Also, you mean the BMW SUpra? lol ok
I like how you say your will NEVER hit the track. WTF?! I don't plan to track mine, but I would happily do so if given the right opportunity
Drifting
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I watched savage geese’s C8 reviews just now back to back. If these guys come out with even a 8 or 9 out of 10 for the Z06, I am going to be super happy. In terms of steering feel, connectedness, brake pressure feedback, rawness in cabin, savage geese is really the best in youtube business. Your average Corvette review spends too much time in engine location and the sharp edges of the body panels and the digital dash. Majority of the C8 reviews are like Tesla Plaid reviews for a sports car. Savage geese does a proper review with a street driving, track driving, interior and exterior as well as under the car aspects. Its as thorough as it gets.
They have had some very important and concerning comments about the C8. The steering feedback (not just how quickly car turns but rather how the steering wheel communicates back), brake pedal feel, understeer are my biggest question marks about the Z06. Will GM really give us an emotional, connected, raw naturally aspirated car to remind us a 458 or GT3? Or is it just a more powerful, louder, wider C8 with similar disconnectedness, numbness, and isolation? The weight of the Z06 at 3800 lbs is going against it so they need to work harder to make the car more connected.
They have had some very important and concerning comments about the C8. The steering feedback (not just how quickly car turns but rather how the steering wheel communicates back), brake pedal feel, understeer are my biggest question marks about the Z06. Will GM really give us an emotional, connected, raw naturally aspirated car to remind us a 458 or GT3? Or is it just a more powerful, louder, wider C8 with similar disconnectedness, numbness, and isolation? The weight of the Z06 at 3800 lbs is going against it so they need to work harder to make the car more connected.
Race Director
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From: Bergen county NJ
Just a few more days to a week and the embargos lifted.
I'm excited to have access to performance reviews of professional journalists.
i figured a year or two until delivery so this should be fun.
hopefully we can go back to annual product releases that show why corvette and general motors are among the best nmanufacturers out there.
doesnt mean there arent other great marques like ferrari, lamborghini, mclaren or porsche.
just means the bar has been raised by the corvette team.
we often hear from exotic car owners and more so their enthusiast followers who troll on this site that a vehicle is much more than its numbers etc..(when their preferred brand gets bounced) so it should be fun either way the performance numbers fall.
jmo
I'm excited to have access to performance reviews of professional journalists.
i figured a year or two until delivery so this should be fun.
hopefully we can go back to annual product releases that show why corvette and general motors are among the best nmanufacturers out there.
doesnt mean there arent other great marques like ferrari, lamborghini, mclaren or porsche.
just means the bar has been raised by the corvette team.
we often hear from exotic car owners and more so their enthusiast followers who troll on this site that a vehicle is much more than its numbers etc..(when their preferred brand gets bounced) so it should be fun either way the performance numbers fall.
jmo
Burning Brakes
Joined: Oct 2004
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From: Michigan
If Z06 gets a very good review from this channel, it will be very impressive. These guys are pretty much the only channel in youtube that does a very thorough review of any car they are working with. They spend as much as 30-40% of the time under the car going over all relevant components. They drive the car in track, on the road, talk about anything from sound system to leather quality to seats to tire performance. No one is perfect and I'm sure some of the things they say is subjective but they are as objective as you can get in youtube. They like GT3s and other 911s because as much as people here subjectively hate the looks of a 911, objectively it is the best in class. So a channel like theirs favoring GT3s make sense as everyone, which I bet my money on includes the top Corvette engineers, know that GT3 elevates that segment to levels that no one else can. Nothing wrong with that.
Here is their GT3 review and this is what they will compare Z06 against. There is also a segment in that video where one of the senior Porsche execs talk about C8 which what I consider a positive comment. I'm pretty sure Porsche people in stuttgart is damn impressed with Z06.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF7jDHIAfL8
Here is their GT3 review and this is what they will compare Z06 against. There is also a segment in that video where one of the senior Porsche execs talk about C8 which what I consider a positive comment. I'm pretty sure Porsche people in stuttgart is damn impressed with Z06.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF7jDHIAfL8
It really is an apples to oranges comparison. The Z06 will be a bargain supercar. 95% of Z06 owners will never track their car. The GT3 is aimed at the affluent, sophisticated track day guy while the Z06 will appeal to a larger demographic. Both cars will fulfill their purpose.
Burning Brakes
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I watched the video and I was impressed by the GT3. The problem is that a well- equipped GT3 can be as much as $266 K + admin fee so you are looking at $300K + out the door. You can still buy a Z06 for as little as $105K with no admin. I am on a list where the dealer is charging MSRP and 2 other volume dealers within a 30 mile radius are also selling at MSRP.
It really is an apples to oranges comparison. The Z06 will be a bargain supercar. 95% of Z06 owners will never track their car. The GT3 is aimed at the affluent, sophisticated track day guy while the Z06 will appeal to a larger demographic. Both cars will fulfill their purpose.
It really is an apples to oranges comparison. The Z06 will be a bargain supercar. 95% of Z06 owners will never track their car. The GT3 is aimed at the affluent, sophisticated track day guy while the Z06 will appeal to a larger demographic. Both cars will fulfill their purpose.
Stop the personal attacks
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The C8 z06 IS the last ICE z06 IMHO. If there is a C9 z06, it won't be ICE. And GM would really stick it to everyone if they did a hybrid what? Hybrid 6 cyl? Hybrid 4 cyl? That will exceed 670hp? That's what you want? lol
Nope. Because the next gen z06 (if there is a z06 in the C9), will be FULL EV. Especially if the C8 generation lasts until 2030. Are people forgetting about the 2035 gas ban?
And no i won't track my C8Z. Don't care for it. Even if there was a track around the corner from my house. Still won't do it. It's not the distance that's stopping me from tracking any of my cars. I just like street driving high performance cars instead.
And like i said i'm getting the z06 for the engine. I probably would never even touch 10 or 20% of it's capabilities on the street with it's awesome suspension and cornering ability.
I want the engine. That's it.
Drifting
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I watched the video and I was impressed by the GT3. The problem is that a well- equipped GT3 can be as much as $266 K + admin fee so you are looking at $300K + out the door. You can still buy a Z06 for as little as $105K with no admin. I am on a list where the dealer is charging MSRP and 2 other volume dealers within a 30 mile radius are also selling at MSRP.
It really is an apples to oranges comparison. The Z06 will be a bargain supercar. 95% of Z06 owners will never track their car. The GT3 is aimed at the affluent, sophisticated track day guy while the Z06 will appeal to a larger demographic. Both cars will fulfill their purpose.
It really is an apples to oranges comparison. The Z06 will be a bargain supercar. 95% of Z06 owners will never track their car. The GT3 is aimed at the affluent, sophisticated track day guy while the Z06 will appeal to a larger demographic. Both cars will fulfill their purpose.
