View Poll Results: What are you going to do?
Order Z06
153
76.12%
Change to E-ray
33
16.42%
Drop off both list
15
7.46%
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Z06 or E-ray
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I know i keep thinking having 2 similar cars (even if they're both different) might get annoying months down the road when i want something a bit different and more spacious that can carry extra people.
I love the M5. But who knows what the next generation M5 will be like. Are they still keeping the V8 at least? I don't even know when is the last year of this current generation M5. If the next gen is hybrid 6cyl, forget it. I'll find a used F90 lol
I love the M5. But who knows what the next generation M5 will be like. Are they still keeping the V8 at least? I don't even know when is the last year of this current generation M5. If the next gen is hybrid 6cyl, forget it. I'll find a used F90 lol
Safety Car
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Since I'm about 4 back at my dealer meaning I'll get a Z06 allocation this year I'm going with that. I think the Eray is much cooler than I thought it would be. It will be a bunch of fun, but not over the Z06. If I was at the top of an Eray list and bottom of a Z list then I might get one to try until the Z came. Performance is good, but the end of the day it's an LT2 with batteries. Almost 700 NA shrieking HP is definitely more of an experience in a lighter moderately heavy sports car.
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I still don't get the point of the Eray. If you look at Demuro's video today, he says Chevy told him its more like a GT (like the Stingray) than the wilder Z06.
So you pay $40K more than a Stingray for 0.3 seconds faster to 60 while adding hundreds of pounds and stealing HP from the motor to help both cool and charge the batteries because it has no wall plug. And he says fuel economy wasn't one of the reasons why GM made this as its not much better than a Stingray, probably because it has hundreds of pounds you lug around everywhere you go than the Stingray and Z06. And it isn't handling as unlike most electric cars where the batteries in the floor, the batteries don't lower the CG being in the tunnel.
I get the point of the Stingray. Great value. I get the point of the Z06. Its wilder. But the Eray? What exactly is the point of spending that much money? So you can drive your Corvette in snow?
I dare anyone to feel any difference 0-60 in 2.9 vs 2.6.
So you pay $40K more than a Stingray for 0.3 seconds faster to 60 while adding hundreds of pounds and stealing HP from the motor to help both cool and charge the batteries because it has no wall plug. And he says fuel economy wasn't one of the reasons why GM made this as its not much better than a Stingray, probably because it has hundreds of pounds you lug around everywhere you go than the Stingray and Z06. And it isn't handling as unlike most electric cars where the batteries in the floor, the batteries don't lower the CG being in the tunnel.
I get the point of the Stingray. Great value. I get the point of the Z06. Its wilder. But the Eray? What exactly is the point of spending that much money? So you can drive your Corvette in snow?
I dare anyone to feel any difference 0-60 in 2.9 vs 2.6.
Last edited by Sin City; Jan 24, 2023 at 05:01 PM.
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I still don't get the point of the Eray. If you look at Demuro's video today, he says Chevy told him its more like a GT (like the Stingray) than the wilder Z06.
So you pay $40K more than a Stingray for 0.3 seconds faster to 60 while adding hundreds of pounds and stealing HP from the motor to help both cool and charge the batteries because it has no wall plug. And he says fuel economy wasn't one of the reasons why GM made this as its not much better than a Stingray, probably because it has hundreds of pounds you lug around everywhere you go than the Stingray and Z06. And it isn't handling as unlike most electric cars where the batteries in the floor, the batteries don't lower the CG being in the tunnel.
I get the point of the Stingray. Great value. I get the point of the Z06. Its wilder. But the Eray? What exactly is the point of spending that much money? So you can drive your Corvette in snow?
I dare anyone to feel any difference 0-60 in 2.9 vs 2.6.
So you pay $40K more than a Stingray for 0.3 seconds faster to 60 while adding hundreds of pounds and stealing HP from the motor to help both cool and charge the batteries because it has no wall plug. And he says fuel economy wasn't one of the reasons why GM made this as its not much better than a Stingray, probably because it has hundreds of pounds you lug around everywhere you go than the Stingray and Z06. And it isn't handling as unlike most electric cars where the batteries in the floor, the batteries don't lower the CG being in the tunnel.
I get the point of the Stingray. Great value. I get the point of the Z06. Its wilder. But the Eray? What exactly is the point of spending that much money? So you can drive your Corvette in snow?
I dare anyone to feel any difference 0-60 in 2.9 vs 2.6.
Z06 is on thin ice if I was to speculate.
Because there is no real point to the Eray except to prepare your brain for the future.
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Two observations...
First, the E-Ray as spec-ed does not have the intrinsic production constraints of the Z06-specific motor
The drivetrain is base stingray, and the electric motors and batteries are potentially shared with the broader GM product lines... say what you will about EV, but the drivelines are easily re-configurable and fungible between product lines... one of the reasons they are so attractive to manufacturers...
I suspect the E-ray will actually be easier to ramp up than the more focused and bespoke Z06.
Also, like it or not, it appeals to a much broader mainstream customer base...
First, the E-Ray as spec-ed does not have the intrinsic production constraints of the Z06-specific motor
The drivetrain is base stingray, and the electric motors and batteries are potentially shared with the broader GM product lines... say what you will about EV, but the drivelines are easily re-configurable and fungible between product lines... one of the reasons they are so attractive to manufacturers...
I suspect the E-ray will actually be easier to ramp up than the more focused and bespoke Z06.
Also, like it or not, it appeals to a much broader mainstream customer base...
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There's not enough difference in price between the Z06 and the Eray for the benefit of using "electric" vs the weight and complexity penalty of using "electric". To date no one has driven one. We don't know about torque steer, handling, braking feel, etc. So why should people spend over $100K for something so unknown?
Again I say -- I don't get it.
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Nothing wrong with recouping development costs and enjoying the publicity of the bespoke engine'd Z06 for as long as it makes sense while preparing for what's next.
I did say thin ice but I didn't mean a one year run. But I do wonder if it stays low production (for a Z06 that's 2-3k per year) on purpose or doesn't make the full C8 run or just ends with the C8.
By the way, GM did make the Blackwing TT engine for one year so it can happen even though it's unseemly.
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If the Z06 was AWD that would be my choice, but since it is not I will go E-ray.
I still will not part with my Porsche 911 Turbo S cabriolet.
I will most likely part with one of my SUVs, either my Mercedes GLC63 AMG or my wife's GLE350.
I am interested to see if the E-ray will truly act like AWD if in the rain or snow, will it kick in when the rear loses traction?
I still will not part with my Porsche 911 Turbo S cabriolet.
I will most likely part with one of my SUVs, either my Mercedes GLC63 AMG or my wife's GLE350.
I am interested to see if the E-ray will truly act like AWD if in the rain or snow, will it kick in when the rear loses traction?
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From my understanding AWD is on all the time. They said the engine will never allow the battery to go under 20%. Now how much, when and if the hp/tq fluctuates is another mystery.
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If the Z06 was AWD that would be my choice, but since it is not I will go E-ray.
I still will not part with my Porsche 911 Turbo S cabriolet.
I will most likely part with one of my SUVs, either my Mercedes GLC63 AMG or my wife's GLE350.
I am interested to see if the E-ray will truly act like AWD if in the rain or snow, will it kick in when the rear loses traction?
I still will not part with my Porsche 911 Turbo S cabriolet.
I will most likely part with one of my SUVs, either my Mercedes GLC63 AMG or my wife's GLE350.
I am interested to see if the E-ray will truly act like AWD if in the rain or snow, will it kick in when the rear loses traction?
Safety Car
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From: Bucks County PA
I do agree, it cannot be as good as the 911 system, but if it is a decent awd system I will be ok with it.
